A Cannabinerd's Journey

AlphaPhase

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So I made a decision i felt would be best right now. I have culled all 3 4 glue s1 plants. I figure if they don't get better in the next 5 weeks, I'll be fucked. So what I did was take 24 of the best cuts off of them. I figure 2 weeks to root, 3-4 weeks veg and flower the best 9. Would be way better than flowering only 4 that I'm not sure will be healthy enough in 5 weeks. Also, this way I'll have more than 1 of each in flower and should get a better idea of the growth / yield of each plant, and a better total yield to boot.

I'm not sure exactly what is going on, since when I looked at the roots, 3/4 were totally messed up but 1 was so damn healthy and packed the pot with nice roots. I did find some brown stuff in my tubing and on my pump. Brown slime? I don't know.

My plan now is I'll use ridomil. It's a systemic fungicide though, so I don't want to use it, but I need to fix whatever is going on. So don't judge me. I'm going to use to to hopefully clear the problem in veg, and it'll be gone by harvest no doubt. I don't want to lose these plants /clones so a systemic is a must right now. I am ditching an old pump I was using and have a newer one I haven't used much (in case something nasty was in there). Since root rot is systemic, I need a systemic prevention on the clones.

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eastcoastmo

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Sorry you had to do this man but it sounds like you have thought long and hard about it, so I know you'll get it sorted bro :) those clones look nice healthy too mate!! That slime though, could quite easily be the pump, it gets hot so the temp would be perfect for pythium to get established. I used to sterilise the crap out of mine every few weeks just so it didn't build up!
 

AlphaPhase

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Sorry you had to do this man but it sounds like you have thought long and hard about it, so I know you'll get it sorted bro :) those clones look nice healthy too mate!! That slime though, could quite easily be the pump, it gets hot so the temp would be perfect for pythium to get established. I used to sterilise the crap out of mine every few weeks just so it didn't build up!
Thanks bro, I hope I made the right choice! I know this systemic fungicide will take care of it for sure, it was $130 for a pint, so it better work! I really think that the problem was I had 2 old original glue in the same tray I was begging the s1 in, then slowly the s1 started looking bad.. Since pythium is systemic, even the clones could potentially get root rot even though the system is clean. I think that maybe that's what's been happening, just passing it on from generation to generation.. Since I always veg the same strain in its own tray, it's been glue that gets it, but nothing else. Last couple gdp plants were good, some glue were good even, but when 1 has it usually the whole tray has it, if none have it all are fine.. So I think I just keep passing it on from grow to grow :( this fungicide will get inside the plant and kill it so my future generation of clones will be fine, so I'm hoping to use it for one or two veg cycles, then I should be able to go back to using bennies. I'm only using the fungicide on the glue though since all the other strains never have an issue (wierd as hell right?!?)

Man, I'm so over the guessing game it's time to fix it lol

Here's the ghostrider roots after putting in the layer of hydroton, they are stretching out their legs :D I think it's going to work great, only been a couple days :) probably the longest root outside of the pot I've had in veg since they don't get air pruned and they are covered again lol

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AlphaPhase

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The glue sog has begun to hit the trellis. I did something a big different this time, I never raised the light. I set the light about 3' above the plants and let them grow up to the light, I think I'll be doing this from now on because it seems if I put the light at 2' above the plants from the start, they get a little deficiencies from the intensity I think. These haven't shown any issue and that's all changed so I figure that's been the culprit 8-)
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Been a Hella rainy week. Even the dogs are feeling the effects of the dark and dreary days.
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Aeroknow

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The glue sog has begun to hit the trellis. I did something a big different this time, I never raised the light. I set the light about 3' above the plants and let them grow up to the light, I think I'll be doing this from now on because it seems if I put the light at 2' above the plants from the start, they get a little deficiencies from the intensity I think. These haven't shown any issue and that's all changed so I figure that's been the culprit 8-)
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Been a Hella rainy week. Even the dogs are feeling the effects of the dark and dreary days.
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When the weather gets better, we should set our dogs free together at the dogpark up here. That would be fun.
Probably be one big humpfest:-D
 

eastcoastmo

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I really hope the fungicide works for you bro, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be, especially when everything else looks perfect! I have faith bro, lots of faith :)
Great call with adding the hydroton balls, that ghostrider is lapping it up by the looks of it :-D
Man, that glue sog is RIDICULOUS! They seem to fill in so quickly, love it :) love your dogs too mate, they look exhausted lol.
I wonder how hard it would be to get clones over to Oz without being nailed by customs...hmmm ha ha ha
I'm so going to start a clone dispensary when it gets legalised here, money to be made!!
 

papapayne

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You know AP, i love organics, and try my best to adhere to it. I'll tell ya what though...I ever see even one root aphid, or one trace of brood mites, you bet I am gonna pull out the nuke. somethings you don't take chances with, something that rots the roots sounds like something like that to me. So don't sweat it!

The glue is looking good, I have 3 gg#4 (your cut) in 10gs going to flower next. I have been loving her hash so damn much, and shes such nice smoke. Awesome seeing you killing it with them to! I am hoping they preform for me like they do for you!

Stay free, stay high

papa
 

AlphaPhase

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When the weather gets better, we should set our dogs free together at the dogpark up here. That would be fun.
Probably be one big humpfest:-D
Lmao, that would be epic, but I think Pluto would never come back :( he's a wild untamed beast and runs for legit 5+ hours before coming home (when he gets loose) but I'm not sure how it would go in a place he's never been :/
 

AlphaPhase

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I really hope the fungicide works for you bro, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be, especially when everything else looks perfect! I have faith bro, lots of faith :)
Great call with adding the hydroton balls, that ghostrider is lapping it up by the looks of it :-D
Man, that glue sog is RIDICULOUS! They seem to fill in so quickly, love it :) love your dogs too mate, they look exhausted lol.
I wonder how hard it would be to get clones over to Oz without being nailed by customs...hmmm ha ha ha
I'm so going to start a clone dispensary when it gets legalised here, money to be made!!
Oh the frustration is very real :( I'll dose them with the fungicide a week after I transplant them out of the cloner and hope for the best! And thanks bro, I love my dogs, they are just like people with their personalities :) I'm not sure how clones would do all that way, especially how long it would take, on top of customs, I wish it was not so taboo! I heard Australia passed a mj law of some sort though! Do you know what that was that passed into law? Is it medical mj?
 

AlphaPhase

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You know AP, i love organics, and try my best to adhere to it. I'll tell ya what though...I ever see even one root aphid, or one trace of brood mites, you bet I am gonna pull out the nuke. somethings you don't take chances with, something that rots the roots sounds like something like that to me. So don't sweat it!

The glue is looking good, I have 3 gg#4 (your cut) in 10gs going to flower next. I have been loving her hash so damn much, and shes such nice smoke. Awesome seeing you killing it with them to! I am hoping they preform for me like they do for you!

Stay free, stay high

papa
It's a stressful call for sure bro, but like you said sometimes the nukes have to come out and one and done it! I've tried so many things for like at least 10 months now, just keeping it at bay or having it ruin plants here and there and I'm so over it, I just want to get the vigor back into them so I can see the potential, if I can't have a new strain that's healthy with good roots, I'll never truly know if it's good :( I figure if I can kill the issue now and give the offspring a healthy start from here on out, that'll be the best thing I can do and then I won't have to keep struggling with it :)

You're gonna kill it in 10 gal dude! She loves her root space! Do you have a journal going on? If so tag me for sure! And dude, the hash, oh Lord the glue hash!!! It's been ny favorite strain to work with for the past year, biggest damn yielder I've had I think, definitely the biggest in a extremely long time and the smell and taste is just wild, super terpy! Like a Cologne or something, that's all I can think of when I got a big bag of glue buds, smells like Cologne and then the hash is like 10x the stank :) hey, I'm not sure what nutes your using or if your organics, but keep the glue on some nitrogen in flower for at least 3 weeks, even 4, she seems to be loving it. I've been using 50/50 bloom and grow nutes the first month and they've been the best yet :)
 

eastcoastmo

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Oh the frustration is very real :( I'll dose them with the fungicide a week after I transplant them out of the cloner and hope for the best! And thanks bro, I love my dogs, they are just like people with their personalities :) I'm not sure how clones would do all that way, especially how long it would take, on top of customs, I wish it was not so taboo! I heard Australia passed a mj law of some sort though! Do you know what that was that passed into law? Is it medical mj?
That really sucks man, especially since you are growing it for meds! Kill that shit any way you can bro :)
Lol, dogs are freakin cool animals, very smart and so loyal!!
Yeah I don't think they'd survive unless it went with FedEx or someone that can get it here within a few days, I've sent them to mates in Australia that took over a week and they survived well, bit worse for wear but otherwise good. It's the customs that scare me, if they pic me up for it, it would be jail time!
Yeah man, they passed a medical mj law in New South Wales. Basically so they can trial it for cancer and terminally ill patients. It's a start but still a long way off being anything substantial like you guys have over there!
 

AlphaPhase

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Here's the kushberry. They're looking funky :p much different than last run, figured I'd give them a go in dirt but no dice on her again, oh well :p
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Ghostrider OG v2.0 starting some frost now. The deficiencies haven't progressed, I'm assuming the light was too close for them as well because it stopped when I raised it. Smelling pretty good, I think I'm getting the lemon pledge smell from them already :)
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And the glue are starting to chunk up. Everything is starting to fade in this batch, a little earlier than I wanted since I want to run them 10 weeks. Oh well, can't win them all :)
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AlphaPhase

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They all look fire!

So the kushberry didn't turn out a keeper? Thats to bad if so. Such is life, not everything can be winners.
Thanks bro, the kushberry just doesn't have enough funk, the smell is outrageous and excellent though, but that's about all she has going for her. The hydro run came out much better I think, the soil run I topped much more and it shows on the bud size, but that set aside, she is pretty much the same as last run as far as the end product will be I have a feeling. She's not bad, but just not better than any of the other gear so I gotta cull her :( I wish I could keep her flavor and smell though because it's really really potent, very berry.
 

AlphaPhase

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yep, just didn't get the winning pheno that had the smell, taste, and potency. Sometimes it happens that way! Always more beans to plant ;)
It definitely happens more times than not lol, but that's the fun part of the hunt, after a couple years of popping seeds and then that Holy grail pops up, it's an awesome moment :)
 
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