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GroErr

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Blue Ripper F2 pheno hunt babies coming along, no issues with any of them so far. There seems to be about 2 main phenos in there. There's a distinct pheno with the first set of leaves being cupped and twisted, ends of their leaves finish in a sharp end. The other main pheno has more normal leaves and rounded ends. Both have similar serrated edges on the leaves and colouring so far. All are growing at similar rates other than the runt I recovered from the initial cull. It needs a few more days but looks like it will go as well, stretched like a mofo, will have to stake it. Second pic shows the full cabinet, besides the F2's there are clones form pretty well every strain on the go other than what's in the cloner, plus a few new seeds a couple of days in the cups, trying to find a Fireballs female.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Veg Tent, that 10gal Blue Ripper is looking good. Trellised and FIM'd all the tops on Sunday. Should be in great shape for flowering in 8-10 days :) Other clones are just holding in there for now. Male Blue Ripper will be cloned and flowered for some fresh pollen (will have to S-crop the main and tie it down or it'll be too tall!). BPP clone is still not sexed, s-cropped the main to start shaping it before sexing and up-potting if it turns out fem, these BPP's take forever to sex.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Quick shot of the flower room last night @day 46 and Day 23. Buds are getting some density now, tied back a couple of the colas to the trellises before they hit the floor, starting to get some leaners :) Bud shot of the Blue Ripper 10gal at Day 23, some frost coming in already :D

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

bf80255

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Fireballs males in the LED tent @day 16. Pheno 1 (left) is racing along and will be ready to collect pollen within the next week at most. Pheno 2 is slower at making flowers but the smell is off the charts :)

Edit: Anyone else seeing the purple striping in those pods? :bigjoint:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
see that little hair sticking out the lower nut on that last pic? I think thats possibly intersex
 

GroErr

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see that little hair sticking out the lower nut on that last pic? I think thats possibly intersex
Hey bf, yeah did see that when I was cropping the pic, will keep an eye on it. The flower structure compared to the other one has been weird, wouldn't be surprised if it's a herm. Hasn't had any sort of shock or the like.
 

bf80255

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Hey bf, yeah did see that when I was cropping the pic, will keep an eye on it. The flower structure compared to the other one has been weird, wouldn't be surprised if it's a herm. Hasn't had any sort of shock or the like.
that sucks cuzz it looks like hes the most heavily flowered too :/
just keepin an eye out for you bro ;) dont want you to use anything but your A team for breeding your next generation.

I get herms alll the time, it just comes with the territory when you pop a certain number of seeds, thats why I let my boys go at least a week after they start dropping pollen before collecting, just in case they decide to start growing girly parts or something.
 

GroErr

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that sucks cuzz it looks like hes the most heavily flowered too :/
just keepin an eye out for you bro ;) dont want you to use anything but your A team for breeding your next generation.

I get herms alll the time, it just comes with the territory when you pop a certain number of seeds, thats why I let my boys go at least a week after they start dropping pollen before collecting, just in case they decide to start growing girly parts or something.
Cheers bf, no biggie although damn thing smells awesome, would be a shame. The other one (P1) is developing normally and much faster, that questionable one P2 hasn't stretched anywhere near as much, flower development is slower, add the hair and it's all pointing to a he/she :(
 

Mohican

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I have had a few plants that looked male and had those nutty looking bulbs pop out. They all ended up being 100% female with a very stubby flower shape.
 

GroErr

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I have had a few plants that looked male and had those nutty looking bulbs pop out. They all ended up being 100% female with a very stubby flower shape.
Yeah but this is definitely a male, but it shouldn't have any hairs popping out of those pods, unless it's a single freaky growth out of one pod. "It" smells great so I'll keep it going until it fully matures and keep looking for any hermie traits... Here's the hair @bf80256 was referring to highlighted in a smaller version of that pic above... I don't think anyone would argue that this was a female, Bruce maybe, female not a chance ;)

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Mohican

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I think when stuff gets reversed with silver it can cause some genetic issues.

I was gifted a few males that did this and I had one male start throwing female flowers!

Purple Thai x Purple Kush:




Maku Male with frosty seed pods:




Black Sour Bubble male with female flowers:




Cheers,
Mo
 

GroErr

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I think when stuff gets reversed with silver it can cause some genetic issues.

I was gifted a few males that did this and I had one male start throwing female flowers!

Purple Thai x Purple Kush:

Maku Male with frosty seed pods:

Black Sour Bubble male with female flowers:

Cheers,
Mo
You must have hundreds of examples with all the chucks you do Mo! Love the frost on that second stud :)

These were just a couple that made it through culling and turned out to be males. Thought I'd collect their pollen and do some experimental chucks as they both smell awesome. No CS or any sort of treatments though so it shouldn't be putting out hairs. Whether it's a fem that ends up showing balls, or a male that shows flowers, both would be considered hermies and unstable imo. Found a couple of suspect hairs on the main top but nothing else yet, still probably won't chance it. If it continues showing female "legs" it'll be chucked - into the garbage ;)

Basically it's looking like it could go like that Purple Thai x Purple Kush pic you posted. Not something I'd want to pass on, males or females need to be almost perfect specimens to cross imo.
 

Mohican

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I have only had this happen with males I was gifted and one cross with TGA Jilly Bean. The Paki Punch and Landrace sativas have had zero hermis!

I am only working with my lines from now on and not taking any more donations. I may still try and breed this problem out of those crosses. I will need to be careful not to let them contaminate any of my clean lines.

The AK, MK Ultra, Pre-98 Bubba, GTH, Fireball, Triangle, and LA Confidential strains also seem to be very stable and will be further backcrossed to find the magic.

AK x Paki = Akki




This cross smells like Juicy Fruit gum. It smells so good that Mrs Mo wants to try it!

Cheers,
Mo
 

GroErr

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I have only had this happen with males I was gifted and one cross with TGA Jilly Bean. The Paki Punch and Landrace sativas have had zero hermis!

I am only working with my lines from now on and not taking any more donations. I may still try and breed this problem out of those crosses. I will need to be careful not to let them contaminate any of my clean lines.

The AK, MK Ultra, Pre-98 Bubba, GTH, Fireball, Triangle, and LA Confidential strains also seem to be very stable and will be further backcrossed to find the magic.

AK x Paki = Akki

This cross smells like Juicy Fruit gum. It smells so good that Mrs Mo wants to try it!

Cheers,
Mo
Those seeds are beauties that Akki sounds killer. I take it Mrs. Mo doesn't smoke, you lucked out there like I did. GF doesn't smoke either - bonus :D
 

ttystikk

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I have only had this happen with males I was gifted and one cross with TGA Jilly Bean. The Paki Punch and Landrace sativas have had zero hermis!

I am only working with my lines from now on and not taking any more donations. I may still try and breed this problem out of those crosses. I will need to be careful not to let them contaminate any of my clean lines.

The AK, MK Ultra, Pre-98 Bubba, GTH, Fireball, Triangle, and LA Confidential strains also seem to be very stable and will be further backcrossed to find the magic.

AK x Paki = Akki




This cross smells like Juicy Fruit gum. It smells so good that Mrs Mo wants to try it!

Cheers,
Mo
My Jillybean cut is completely stable and has great structure, I'm always willing to donate cuts to breeders in return for a lil love down the line. It's my way of contributing, even tho I'm clone only.

Regarding your Pre '98 Bubba Kush, I wasn't impressed with it on my vertical system but my friend bred it with Moonshine Haze and gave me a choice cut of what I now call Hillbilly Hobby. Sweet, lemon floral scent and serious, knockout power if you smoke very much, wonderful head if you smoke just a little. Even my 12-15 dab a day buddies tell me they get a buzz from smoking the flowers; they tell me because it just doesn't happen with anything else!
 

ttystikk

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I have (ISS?) bubblegum and it's a fantastic flavor, very popular. A juicy fruit flavor would be an awesome addition, because my Jillybean already tastes like spearmint!
 

GroErr

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Quick camshot at Day 49 for those 2x 7gal closest to the camera. Doing what they're supposed to be doing, getting dense and leaning, fading but still drinking well. Another 5-7 days, I think that indi-dom pheno can go the full 8 weeks, it's still sucking back more than a gallon a day. Gets about 3 gallons that last ~2 1/2 days, been giving it an extra gallon at 2 days and then the full 3 gal on the third day. It has that monster cola on the right about 1/2 way down that's looking like a zip+ :D

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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