Fogdog
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Wait, I can't recall. Which political office did Carville run for? Oh right, he's a consultant for politicians. So, this is meaningful how?
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Fogdog
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Not really talking about you, why does this have to be about you?. I'm refuting your endless postings with the mindless and factually incorrect trope about liberals. Its backasswards dude. Many more right wingers (not conservative, they aren't conserving anything) receive federal assistance than liberals. Also many more liberals have better education than right wingers.
WeeblesWobbles
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Tomato, potato. You were mocking the poor for voting a Republican. They don't. Now you're saying some county in Mississippi with 8,000 relatively poor individuals sucks up more aid per capita than, say, Cook County (Chicago). That's true, and totally irrelevant.
If you stop massaging your statistics you'll see that the majority of aid, in absolute terms, not per capita, goes to Blue cities. How could it not? That's where the majority of poor live. There's nothing wrong with that. Cities have rich folk to offset their poor. Rural areas don't.
Fogdog
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I've fucked a few republicans, never fucked a flag though. Seems kind of weird but whatever. The girls that were democrats were more fun.
Abiqua
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"ignorance is bliss"
-somebody-
Corso312
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If the state is red and it is on the top ten poorest..it is poor people voting Republican. There are nine out of the top ten are poor shit kicking hillbillies voting republican and taking more than what they pay..that is just a fact, it can not be debated.
The way you get poor uneducated shitkickers to continue to vote like that is mislead them..you quote scripture and scare em with gay marriage and Isis.
Fogdog
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I'm mocking some RIU resident conservatives for their ignorance regarding who collects aid and are ignorant. This trope about those on assistance being liberal and dumb is not entirely wrong, no political group has the monopoly on dumb and lazy. They selectively forget the fact that most red states accept more federal aid dollars than they return in taxes. Blue states by and large do the opposite. Also, those that self identify as republican are in general less well educated than those that identify themselves as democrats.
Fogdog
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So, do you go out on a date with that flag or do you just treat it as a whore?
Did I take something? Do tell.
Cost of living from one state to the next isn't considered.
How many of those red states have democratic governors?
It only accounts for those that voted. What of the non-voters, who statistically would be more likely to receive benefits. We just dont talk about them or something?
How old is that data again? Are all the red/blue states then still red/blue states now?
Fogdog
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Fogdog
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It’s Official: White Folks in Red States are the Biggest Food Stamp ‘Moochers’ in the Country!
http://aattp.org/ts-official-white-folks-in-red-states-are-the-biggest-food-stamp-moochers-in-the-country/
The breakdown by total numbers shows a different picture. This poll is based upon people who say they have recieved food stamps in their lifetime. Personally, I think the republicans conveniently forgot about that time when... I base this on the map shown above.Look at that swath of brick red coloration in the south. But ok, the data are what they are. The final breakdown according to ideology free of affilliation shows no difference between liberals and conservatives.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/
http://aattp.org/ts-official-white-folks-in-red-states-are-the-biggest-food-stamp-moochers-in-the-country/
The breakdown by total numbers shows a different picture. This poll is based upon people who say they have recieved food stamps in their lifetime. Personally, I think the republicans conveniently forgot about that time when... I base this on the map shown above.Look at that swath of brick red coloration in the south. But ok, the data are what they are. The final breakdown according to ideology free of affilliation shows no difference between liberals and conservatives.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/
WeeblesWobbles
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How about this: "If a state is red, the poor probably didn't vote." There, I fixed it for you. I spoon fed you the damn research and you still cling to this trope you've got in your head that the poor are voting Republican. If they vote, they vote Democrat by a large margin. Fact.
There are counties in MS where almost 20% are on long-term disability, mostly back and psychological issues. Let's say the majority of those "disabled" adults don't vote, and the majority of the folk with jobs who are disgusted with the situation do vote, and vote Republican. See how things can turn out?
In November of 2015, 2,039,353 people in Blue State Illinois got food stamps (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program SNAP). Same month, less than 580,000 got SNAP in Red State Mississippi. Which state is "poorer"? In per capita terms, MS. Which state got more federal aid dollars? In absolute terms, IL.
You can spin this bullshit any way you want. I don't know what you think it proves. That Blue states have more rich people? Because that's what your stupid "ten poorest" really means. Blue states have many, many more poor than Red states do. But the Blue poor are more than offset by a relatively few Blue rich.
But I thought you hated rich people?
Abiqua
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"God is dead"
- some pantheist -
Corso312
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I never said I hated rich people, not sure where you would pull that from.. I'm 100% against billionaires buying elections...which is what happens now.
You keep moving the goalpost. No shit Illinois has more people than Mississippi or Arkansas.. We are talking about taking more than paying. The population shouldn't factor into any of this..why are you bringing it up?
You keep moving the goalpost. No shit Illinois has more people than Mississippi or Arkansas.. We are talking about taking more than paying. The population shouldn't factor into any of this..why are you bringing it up?
Corso312
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NLXSK1
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Welfare is when the government gives money to support someone. What you are talking about is tax breaks.
The government VOLUNTARILY offers these tax breaks to companies as incentive for the companies to come into their area and create jobs and economic activity. The government knows that the increased revenue in other local taxation offsets the tax breaks which is why they offer them.
You are mad for companies that take tax breaks that the GOVERNMENT gives them, not the GOVERNMENT for giving away the tax money...
That seems so backwards to me. Of course a company is going to take a financial incentive. The point is that a company cannot create it's own financial incentive, the government has to offer it in the first place.