Padawanbater2
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If either of you took your own retarded advice, neither of you would be voting for Trump
If you think he can get his fuckin' wall between Mexico and the US built, you're dreaming
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If you think he can get his fuckin' wall between Mexico and the US built, you're dreaming
Astro Aquanaut
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The union mentality transcends into their personal lives simply by what they wear when not working and how they define themselves by what they do... I define what I do, and what I do for a living doesn't dictate who I am...
I believe with automated targeting systems, fiber optic placement along the wall, gigapixel surveillance and seismograph's we can have a pretty interesting delineation...
I believe the Chinese built a 5,500 mile wall without tractors and the Israeli's built a 400 mile wall that varies between 11 ft and 20 ft with guard towers, and automated gun placements as did the South Koreans along the DMZ which is 160 miles...
I believe with automated targeting systems, fiber optic placement along the wall, gigapixel surveillance and seismograph's we can have a pretty interesting delineation...
Padawanbater2
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Sanders can't get anything passed through congress, but you think Trump will get a fucking wall between Mexico and the US through?
LMFAO
Astro Aquanaut
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Why not? I believe they are all racist republicans right?
Padawanbater2
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Because the overwhelming majority of Americans don't support it (Unlike how the majority of Americans support what Sanders is proposing)
Astro Aquanaut
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Plus we are not paying for it, so it doesn't need to pass Congress... LOL! That is foreign relations which the president has control over....
Padawanbater2
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Neither is Mexico, so I guess along with the support issue, you'll be dealing with a much bigger finance issue to boot
Astro Aquanaut
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Mexico is at the mercy of the United States... Literally we could pay for the wall with the subsidies we give them...
You have to remember they wouldn't have a country without the mercy of the United States... We took Mexico City, and gave them half their country back...
Astro Aquanaut
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Mexico can be totally destroyed economically by a single US presidential speech...
I don't think you guys realize how powerful the United States really is...
I don't think you guys realize how powerful the United States really is...
Astro Aquanaut
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By the way... I don't think Trump has any intention what so ever of building a wall, but it is funny because he is very very clever...
Padawanbater2
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The American people don't support it, did you forget that part? It doesn't matter wtf Trump wants, he's not running for King of America
Astro Aquanaut
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You don't understand the 3 branches of government do you? The executive branch has total control over foreign policy... The president can conduct military interventions around the world as long as he has funding the funding comes from congress, and the legality from the judicial.. With a 630~ billion budget to work within you can do a lot of things... lol...
If you don't understand what Trump is doing then you won't get it... He is a moderate, but he requires republican support to get the nomination... If he gets the nomination he will change his tune...
Astro Aquanaut
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Think of it like this
The president is the dictator responsible for foreign policy, etc, and approval power over the oligarchy which is the congress and controls the money etc, however the oligarchy can over rule the dictator if they have the votes among themselves and the judicial is the tyranny of councils which makes sure everyone plays by the rules and the oligarchy or dictator don't seize power.. They all tug back and forth..
In that scenario Bernie Sanders is an Oligarch trying to become the dictator....
The president is the dictator responsible for foreign policy, etc, and approval power over the oligarchy which is the congress and controls the money etc, however the oligarchy can over rule the dictator if they have the votes among themselves and the judicial is the tyranny of councils which makes sure everyone plays by the rules and the oligarchy or dictator don't seize power.. They all tug back and forth..
In that scenario Bernie Sanders is an Oligarch trying to become the dictator....
Trump isn't an ideolog. The wall is just more bait. He's a social liberal, fiscal conservative. If congress dumps the wall, so will he. He'll trade for fiscal policies conducive to increasing economic growth.
I'm not convinced he really wants to be president --- but he does like the idea of winning.
Astro Aquanaut
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I think this is how alot young republicans are... We smoke weed, and live liberally, however we are fiscally conservative... It is really hard to find a place in American politics when you have that view point, and obviously Trump doesn't represent all of that however he is a great improvement over NEO Cons...
Many of us support or are apart of the MPP, NRA, CRA etc etc however fiscally conservative...
Guns, Cannabis, and Tobacco!
If alcohol was under attack I would join a lobby to support them however, alcohol is cheaper than water in some cases...
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Padawanbater2
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Who declares war?
londonfog
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Congress
Astro Aquanaut
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Depends how you define war... Military intervention isn't always considered war, and neither is policing actions...
Have to remember we are a nation of used car salesmen and lawyers, so would policing actions along a border be considered war?
How do you define war?
Padawanbater2
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Who declares war?
Is it congress that declares war or is it the president?
It's congress
Is war foreign policy?
Yes, war is foreign policy
Is congress part of the executive branch of government?
No, congress is part of the legislative branch of government
Therefore, the executive branch does not have "total control over foreign policy"
Astro Aquanaut
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United States has only declared war 11 times out of 300+ major military campaigns... Last declaration of war was in 1942. The declaration of war gives the president extended powers, and nothing has been ruled by the supreme court that would say policing actions or intervention is considered war...
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