A Cannabinerd's Journey

[eastcoastmo]

I can't wait to get cut back of it! Always give a cut to someone close just in case a problem happens, like what happened to me lol, had 4 great cuts, threw 2 away and lost the 2 I planted because I wasn't paying attention lol, the main reason I want to start in an ez cloner and then plant into the rock wool lol

Yeah I bet mate, sounds like a top strain!
Agreed about giving friends a cut too, I wish i had mates I could give mine to lol. Always a good idea though

 

[fandango]

Yes! Pool shock that is something I add 100% of the time, damn it's become so natural now I don't even relate it to an additive lol, but always pool shock 100% of the time, it's the magic sauce View attachment 3615366

Thanks Guys,
I been thinking now that winter is letting up,it's time to do a tune up.For the past several months I was letting my ez-cloner water sit for weeks with my cuts waiting to root,cause I just did nothing and was using just old tap water with no additives,well most cuts did root,but some did take forever.
Just Yesterday I finished the mini split install on a 50' refer trailer(up here in Calaveras,guy sits on 500 acres)well I was looking at the growers shopping list...he spent $2400.00 on clones and seeds at Harborside
In 1 month he is giving me cuts...woopee

 

[Dr.D81]

Thanks Guys,
I been thinking now that winter is letting up,it's time to do a tune up.For the past several months I was letting my ez-cloner water sit for weeks with my cuts waiting to root,cause I just did nothing and was using just old tap water with no additives,well most cuts did root,but some did take forever.
Just Yesterday I finished the mini split install on a 50' refer trailer(up here in Calaveras,guy sits on 500 acres)well I was looking at the growers shopping list...he spent $2400.00 on clones and seeds at Harborside
In 1 month he is giving me cuts...woopee

I heard to watch clones from there they have a mite problem. As a matter of fact it was Saturday I had that conversation.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Thanks Guys,
I been thinking now that winter is letting up,it's time to do a tune up.For the past several months I was letting my ez-cloner water sit for weeks with my cuts waiting to root,cause I just did nothing and was using just old tap water with no additives,well most cuts did root,but some did take forever.
Just Yesterday I finished the mini split install on a 50' refer trailer(up here in Calaveras,guy sits on 500 acres)well I was looking at the growers shopping list...he spent $2400.00 on clones and seeds at Harborside
In 1 month he is giving me cuts...woopee

Awesome man! Like doc said, Harborside clones will most likely have pm and mites, pretty much every dispensary that has clones have bugs, but no biggy just spray em with nuclear sprays a little after ya get em and they'll be fine. Pretty much guaranteed bugs from the clubs now a days

 

[AlphaPhase]

Guess who's switching over to rockwool blocks soon? This guy! Figured nows a good time to see how it goes since my veg room will be empty in a week or so once I get the assorted clones into flower. Since I won't have any clones in hydroton to work around, I'll have 2 trays that I can finally use and play with. I'll be picking up some new gear soon, super glue, the legit dosido and some more mendo breaths. I ended up putting the black lime reserve into flower with the mendo Breath to see how it does so I can make a choice if I wanna keep it or not so it's not taking up room in the tray until I figure it out. Stoked for the dosido to get into the mix since most clones come in rw cubes I can just pop them right into a rw block with zero transplant shock. Plus I can fit so many more blocks in a tray than pots of hydroton, not to mention the clean up is way lighter and a smaller mess. I'll be giving it a go for a few runs tinkering around, suspending them in ebb buckets, stacking the blocks on another block and setting the block on a layer of hydroton for flower. Will see what does best and go from there.

 

[eastcoastmo]

Guess who's switching over to rockwool blocks soon? This guy! Figured nows a good time to see how it goes since my veg room will be empty in a week or so once I get the assorted clones into flower. Since I won't have any clones in hydroton to work around, I'll have 2 trays that I can finally use and play with. I'll be picking up some new gear soon, super glue, the legit dosido and some more mendo breaths. I ended up putting the black lime reserve into flower with the mendo Breath to see how it does so I can make a choice if I wanna keep it or not so it's not taking up room in the tray until I figure it out. Stoked for the dosido to get into the mix since most clones come in rw cubes I can just pop them right into a rw block with zero transplant shock. Plus I can fit so many more blocks in a tray than pots of hydroton, not to mention the clean up is way lighter and a smaller mess. I'll be giving it a go for a few runs tinkering around, suspending them in ebb buckets, stacking the blocks on another block and setting the block on a layer of hydroton for flower. Will see what does best and go from there.

Sounds awesome bro, I'll be keenly watching on to see how it goes for you! I'm sure you'll get it working real well

 

[AlphaPhase]

Sounds awesome bro, I'll be keenly watching on to see how it goes for you! I'm sure you'll get it working real well

Hell yeah bro, I hope it works out well! I am going with the pargro quick drain 4x4" blocks, I figure since these hold way less water than normal rockwool blocks, it'll help me not over water them I have 5 cuts in the cloner starting to bust a couple small roots out now so I'm going to start the experiment Friday and plant those into the macro rockwool plugs, root them the rest of the way and then plant them into the pargro blocks for a test run. Then in a week or two when I pick up more clones, those will be rooted in 1.5" rw cubes already so I'll be able to put them right in the pargro blocks. I'm doing a complete veg room clean up right now cuz I see the dud type symptoms showing on all of my new gear, a couple ghostrider, a couple mendo, a couple sherbet and a couple gsc, the only one not showing it is the cherry pie so getting everything out of the room and doing a hardcore scrub down and then getting cuts that have never been near the sickness to start fresh and see if it goes away. It's a never ending battle lol

 

[AlphaPhase]

The signs of the dud are skinny stems, really close nodes, branches grow sort of horizontal, and what looks like a mag deficiency.
My diamond og had all the signs except the horizontal branches, but I did have some other plants in the tray next to it for a bit, so to be safe I threw it out, here's some pics to finally put a visual to what I mean

Here's the assorted clones that have all the signs


Here's the diamond og that is starting to show most of the signs, I still have a cut in the cloner of it but I dunno if I'll keep it -

Edit- I didn't throw it out, I forgot I just put it in the other tray with the other duds to see what will happen gonna flower them all in a week or so and call it a day

 

[eastcoastmo]

Well I hope it all works out well for you bro!!
Whatever is nailing those clones isn't good, very strange and seems to be hard to get rid of...that sucks balls man really hope you can get on top of it hey!

 

[fandango]

I heard to watch clones from there they have a mite problem. As a matter of fact it was Saturday I had that conversation.

They looked clean,but on the other hand my flower room went all spiders and my baby room is coated with the bastards as we speak
I am going to spray the flower room with bleach(Do you guys think 1 application is enough?)
Also has anyone tried Green Cleaner bug juice?

 

[Dr.D81]

They looked clean,but on the other hand my flower room went all spiders and my baby room is coated with the bastards as we speak
I am going to spray the flower room with bleach(Do you guys think 1 application is enough?)
Also has anyone tried Green Cleaner bug juice?

I learned my lesson and clones get isolated for a week minimum and sprayed dally

 

[Mohican]

I tried a soapy water dunk the day I left on my trip. I will let you know how it works.

 

[supdro]

I heard to watch clones from there they have a mite problem. As a matter of fact it was Saturday I had that conversation.

Ugh i hate mites! I just cut back all my moms to the node and sprayed with neem oil just to get rid of them. @alpha those buds look too awesome

 

[eastcoastmo]

We get this orgabic product in Oz that is called a 'plant conditioner' that you spray once when they are about 6 inches tall and it prevents mite infestations. You can use it to spray when you have them too and overnight they are gone. Totally harmless to humans too. They couldn't classify it as an insecticide here in Oz but that's basically what it is. I'll take a pic for you when I go out to my grow

 

[AlphaPhase]

If it's a normal red spider mites, pretty much anything will kill those but if they are the two spotted mites, I'd suggest quarantine and then using forbid 4f, most safer sprays will just piss the two spotted mites off, they are a brutal bunch of mites and work 10x faster than the regular ones and are immune to a lot of things. An application of forbid will kill them all, even eggs and larve, then just grow the plant out for a bit, snap cuts and you're all good, it's not systemic, but it leaves a residue for about 40 days, so it'll be gone and the new growth will be fresh and clean

With pm, hit em with eagle 20, grow the plant out then snap cuts and ditch the old clone and use the new ones, since pm is systemic, anything that isn't a systemic fungicide won't kill it, it will only kill surface powder, and the surface powder isn't pm, it's just the offspring of pm, pm lives inside the plant, and when it's in bloom that's when you see the white powder

 

[AlphaPhase]

The first test subject. Mendo Breath. Was cut and put in the cloner 4 days ago, it has sprouted a small root and some root bumps. I mixed up a gallon of water to 350ppm (7scale) and 5.5ph. Soaked the cube in the water for 15 seconds, put the clone in the macro plug and sprayed it with water.

Hopefully I get no drooping and a macro plug full of roots in the next 2-3 days. If things go as planned this will be much better of a cloning method for me than straight aero clones.


Here's a non dud healthy cherry pie. I forgot to mention the roots is another factor, duds root system sucks and haz really thin weak roots not thick and bright roots. Forgot to mention that I heard another member on here got a batch of gg4 a while back and 9/12 of them dudded, the other 3 grew perfectly normal, so the dud it being passed around at the dispensaries so be careful out there! This cherry pie was in with the handful of duds, but the strain seems to be more resistant to getting it

 

[AlphaPhase]

Video clip of the ghostrider og at a few days under 28 days and mendo Breath a few days under 7 days (2 of them on day 2)

Night and day difference between growing the ghostrider og in hydroton and growing them in the suspended pots, can't even tell it was the same strain, if these dense up like the last round I can say it's a game changer really happy to be back in suspended pots and getting good the most I can out of a crop! Now let's hope the mendo Breath play well too

 

[fandango]

If it's a normal red spider mites, pretty much anything will kill those but if they are the two spotted mites, I'd suggest quarantine and then using forbid 4f, most safer sprays will just piss the two spotted mites off, they are a brutal bunch of mites and work 10x faster than the regular ones and are immune to a lot of things. An application of forbid will kill them all, even eggs and larve, then just grow the plant out for a bit, snap cuts and you're all good, it's not systemic, but it leaves a residue for about 40 days, so it'll be gone and the new growth will be fresh and clean

With pm, hit em with eagle 20, grow the plant out then snap cuts and ditch the old clone and use the new ones, since pm is systemic, anything that isn't a systemic fungicide won't kill it, it will only kill surface powder, and the surface powder isn't pm, it's just the offspring of pm, pm lives inside the plant, and when it's in bloom that's when you see the white powder

Dam good advice AP...guess I just got paid and a good chunk of cash will be well spend on the Forbid juice.
My mamas are covered in mites(2 spotted)seems the 2 spot like my pad alot

 

[AlphaPhase]

Dam good advice AP...guess I just got paid and a good chunk of cash will be well spend on the Forbid juice.
My mamas are covered in mites(2 spotted)seems the 2 spot like my pad alot

No problem bro 2 spotted are a bitch, I got my first batch of them this year and they can wreck havoc!

 

[AlphaPhase]

Dun dun dunnnnnn, I spotted another dud! I think I'm gonna cull em and pick up a tray of cuts for that cycle, better safe than sorry. The weird thing is this one actually has healthy roots. I am almost gonna guarantee ditching the pots and going to rockwool, bleaching all equipment, culling all in veg and getting a fresh batch of cuts will end this madness I'll get to the bottom of it, I got rid of it a few times but every now and again it returns, but this is the last straw!