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Padawanbater2

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You know what would help quell the influx of illegal immigrants into the US? Changing our drug policy.

What's Turnip's stance on that?

Sanders wants to end the drug war
 
NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
Our entire border is already completely sealed off and illegal immigrants still get through, building a bigger wall wouldn't do anything to change that. Even if Trump became president, the American people don't support it, so it would never be built anyway, entertaining the idea is pointless to begin with and it seems like that's Trump's biggest selling point for his supporters.

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If it is completely sealed off, how do illegal immigrants get through?

Your premise is false. Therefore the following hypothisis could not be true.

I am not blaming Democrats. I am blaming all politicians including the Republicans.
 
OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
Our entire border is already completely sealed off and illegal immigrants still get through, building a bigger wall wouldn't do anything to change that. Even if Trump became president, the American people don't support it, so it would never be built anyway, entertaining the idea is pointless to begin with and it seems like that's Trump's biggest selling point for his supporters.

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Look at what you just said.

Dude like, if the entire border is completely sealed off and illegals are still getting through,...

That`s why your boat leaks.
 
Fogdog

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No. I was liberal at the time and probably would have voted for Kerry. Kerry voted for the war btw.

I want fair trade. Im tired of other countries always kicking our ass in unfair trade. Bernie talks about it a lot, and he's right.
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Your boy Trump wants to implement tariffs. You think tariffs and unilaterally breaking a treaty with Mexico would somehow make trade fair? How does that work?

As with stopping illegal immigration, if we put some bite into policies that demand good working conditions and salaries for foreign workers, we'd be on an equal footing with our trading partners. And there would be no need for a tariff. You guy's answer is to bring the working conditions in the US down to Mexico and China, meanwhile those tariffs would trigger a trade war that nobody would benefit from. Except the demagogue politician that used the issue to get himself elected.
 
Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
If it is completely sealed off, how do illegal immigrants get through?

Your premise is false. Therefore the following hypothisis could not be true.

I am not blaming Democrats. I am blaming all politicians including the Republicans.
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That's the point, you can't seal it off completely. You can't stop illegal immigration with a wall.

There isn't a border in the entire world that can't be crossed by someone desperate and willing enough
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Trump wants to let the states decide about Marijuana except he wants it legal for medical patients.
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What's his stance on the war on drugs?
 
Not GOP

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"I endorsed Romney, and two weeks later I knew he would lose.
The guy walks like a penguin. Somebody tell him to take some steps" -Trump
 
Fogdog

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NLXSK1 said:
There are something like 13 million illegal immigrants in this country. We build a wall then fix or *GASP* enforce current immigration law.... That would be nice since every politician for the last 50 years has ignored it.
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About half of all illegal migrants to this country arrive by airliner. Your wall does what about this?

And also too, how much do you figure this wall would cost? Given Trumps plan to cut taxes, wouldn't the cost of the wall just add to the national debt? Not to mention the cost of monitoring, protecting and repairing that 1300 mile fence. The whole idea is preposterous.

As long as the economic disparity between workers in the two countries is as large as it is now, there will always be illegal immigration into the US from Mexico. Trade policies with some bite in them to drive up wages and working conditions in Mexico is the only real answer.
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
About half of all illegal migrants to this country arrive by airliner. Your wall does what about this?

And also too, how much do you figure this wall would cost? Given Trumps plan to cut taxes, wouldn't the cost of the wall just add to the national debt? Not to mention the cost of monitoring, protecting and repairing that 1300 mile fence. The whole idea is preposterous.

As long as the economic disparity between workers in the two countries is as large as it is now, there will always be illegal immigration into the US from Mexico. Trade policies with some bite in them to drive up wages and working conditions in Mexico is the only real answer.
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Don't bring up costs to Turnip supporters, I've been pushing that all week and the best I've gotten back is "Just wait til he's president, then you'll see!"...

What kind of straight up stupid is that?

The debt/deficit is numero uno when Obama is president, but when Trump wants to tack on an extra $9 trillion, heeey, no big deal!

We're not dealing with rational people
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Don't bring up costs to Turnip supporters, I've been pushing that all week and the best I've gotten back is "Just wait til he's president, then you'll see!"...

What kind of straight up stupid is that?

The debt/deficit is numero uno when Obama is president, but when Trump wants to tack on an extra $9 trillion, heeey, no big deal!

We're not dealing with rational people
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Or to prove total idiocy, they claim Mexico will pay for that wall. On a cold day in Hell maybe....
 
nitro harley

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pnwmystery said:
Is reading that hard for you?

Should Trump become the Republican nominee, his current low standing among Hispanic voters could jeopardize the party’s hopes of winning the general election in November. In current matchups with Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, Trump scores worse among Hispanics than any of the three other leading Republican candidates — Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
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In that case you should be jumping up and down to support Trump so your dream can stay alive in your head. Weren't you one of these lefties here that said they were going to vote Trump so Hillary could win by a landslide? Trump will crush Hillary as long as Chris Christie doesn't give her a mini stroke before the crushing. TRUMP!
 
pnwmystery

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nitro harley said:
In that case you should be jumping up and down to support Trump so your dream can stay alive in your head. Weren't you one of these lefties here that said they were going to vote Trump so Hillary could win by a landslide? Trump will crush Hillary as long as Chris Christie doesn't give her a mini stroke before the crushing. TRUMP!
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I'd never lower my standards so much as to vote for Trump. You have me confused with someone else.
 
abalonehx

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Rubios all wet... that shit was funny.
They really dont give us a choice anyway so I'll vote for the most entertaining. Trump 2016!
 
Grandpapy

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You could build 10 walls with the loss profits from the new Boeing move to China.

Maybe Trump could get that back.
 
Not GOP

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londonfog said:
yeah real Presidential...fucking joke the GOP is
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Sound bytes are the new age of media and ratings. They say Jimmy Fallon is the king of it, Stephen Colbert sucks at it. They may have to replace him soon. Nobody on social media is talking about him. He's even doing worse than Letterman was. Get used to it old timer, things have changed
 
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