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THE KONASSURE

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I like to mix perlite in my coco of course

but does anyone add water retaining gel ?

I was thinking to make up a gel of bennies and mycorr maybe mix it with some perlite and add it to the area just under where the plant would sit when I transfer into our finishing sacks

think that`ll make the plants grow better or is the gel just going to make a nice extra damp area for bugs and root rot to thrive ?
 
Skunk Baxter

Skunk Baxter

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What's the advantage to mixing it with gel? The more you mix shit in with the coco, the more you might as well not be using coco at all. To me, coco is already the perfect medium. When properly textured, it's the perfect balance between good drainage, good oxygenation, and good moisture retention. What is it that needs fixing?
 
Skunk Baxter

Skunk Baxter

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Oh, I know. I'm referring mostly to water retention gels. A lot of people are going to tweak their preferred medium or growing method to suit their own personal preferences, but at some point it becomes counterproductive. Gotta know when to quit. I think water retention gels are a step or two too far, but - well, to each their own. I just wouldn't do it.
 
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heyguys

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bucketfarmer said:
Hello! THis is my first post here, so yeah.. Hi :)

Just wondering if anybody had any success adding mycorrhizae to their coco? I have a bottle of great white but have heard conflicting stories; some say it works, others say the chemical nutes (I'm using canna coco) would kill the organisms.

What is it?
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I wouldn't believe that the nutrients would kill beneficial as long as you are NOT over feeding and have tons of salt buildup. I use great white in coco. First time I use it I wait until the seedling/clone has a decent root structure forming, then I mix the great white into a solution instead of sprinkling on top of the coco. Then the second use is a week later when I transplant from solo cups. I'll sprinkle it directly around the root ball at transplant, and the roots absolutely blow the hell up doing this. Key with any beneficial is to make sure you are using reverse osmosis water. I've used great white with tap that has sit out, but I still don't trust tap. I always see roots at the bottoms of the pots a bit sooner when using beneficials...they absolutely love coco, it's so gentle to your roots!

Make sure to re-enoculate every two weeks after those first two applications. I use it up until week two of flower.

Also wanted to go off topic a bit and say that I've been using General Hydroponic Cocotek nutrients this run and I've gotta say that they are working very well. Not sure how many of you guys have tried them, but they work!
 
gr865

gr865

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Skunk Baxter said:
Oh, I know. I'm referring mostly to water retention gels. A lot of people are going to tweak their preferred medium or growing method to suit their own personal preferences, but at some point it becomes counterproductive. Gotta know when to quit. I think water retention gels are a step or two too far, but - well, to each their own. I just wouldn't do it.
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SB, and example of over done, buddy planted shrubs all around the patio at his golf course, the guys doing the planting did not listen to how they were supposed to use the retention gels and they just poured some in the bottom of the holes for each plant. That night he watered and when they came to work the next day every one of the plants were pushed out of the ground by the gel and the hole was full of gel. LOL
I do not believe he wants to use that in coco. As you said to each his own!
 
since1991

since1991

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heyguys said:
I wouldn't believe that the nutrients would kill beneficial as long as you are NOT over feeding and have tons of salt buildup. I use great white in coco. First time I use it I wait until the seedling/clone has a decent root structure forming, then I mix the great white into a solution instead of sprinkling on top of the coco. Then the second use is a week later when I transplant from solo cups. I'll sprinkle it directly around the root ball at transplant, and the roots absolutely blow the hell up doing this. Key with any beneficial is to make sure you are using reverse osmosis water. I've used great white with tap that has sit out, but I still don't trust tap. I always see roots at the bottoms of the pots a bit sooner when using beneficials...they absolutely love coco, it's so gentle to your roots!

Make sure to re-enoculate every two weeks after those first two applications. I use it up until week two of flower.

Also wanted to go off topic a bit and say that I've been using General Hydroponic Cocotek nutrients this run and I've gotta say that they are working very well. Not sure how many of you guys have tried them, but they work!
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Hey whats the numbers on that gh cocotek nutrients? The grow and the bloom? Whats tye dilution rate to hit target ec?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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since1991 said:
Hey whats the numbers on that gh cocotek nutrients? The grow and the bloom? Whats tye dilution rate to hit target ec?
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I have some sample bottles up on the shelf. I just put 5ml of Bloom A and 5ml of Bloom B into a gallon.
1.1EC
Pretty typical for most GH liquid base nutes, excluding the floranova.
 
since1991

since1991

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Do they have any minimum analysis numbers? Like n p k and cal and mag numbers? 550 ppm is prettt good for just a tspn each per gallon. Sounds like just a tspn and a half would put me in the sweet spot. Do y9u notice any humics in one of the parts? Dark colored?
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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since1991 said:
Do they have any minimum analysis numbers? Like n p k and cal and mag numbers? 550 ppm is prettt good for just a tspn each per gallon. Sounds like just a tspn and a half would put me in the sweet spot. Do y9u notice any humics in one of the parts? Dark colored?
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The part A is on the left
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not sure about the humic. A looks dark like calmag, and the B is clear.
 
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since1991

since1991

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Probably wouldnt need a cal mag with it. And 2 forms of chelated iron. Looks good. More mag than Canna too. I wonder if its cheaper than canna coco a & b. Iam gonna check this out. The high potassium is a little scary for coco coir but i can get around that. Most brands of coir is buffered for that high potassium release.
 
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