F*CK THE POLICE!!!

[OddBall1st]

Exactly who would you have heard it from if the suspect is dead? I was an armed security guard for a short period of time, and during my firearms training the instructor (retired cop) told us that if we were ever in a position where using our firearms was deemed necessary, we were to "shoot to kill". His reasoning? "Dead men don't tell tales".

But no cop that just kicked your door is gonna ask you to go find your gun or go get it.

 

[bearkat42]

But no cop that just kicked your door is gonna ask you to go find your gun or go get it.

Because there are no crooked cops?

 

[OddBall1st]

Because there are no crooked cops?

No. Even a crooked cop wont tell a suspect to go get their gun.

 

[bearkat42]

No. Even a crooked cop wont tell a suspect to go get their gun.

Sure he would. Gives him a reason excuse to pull the trigger.

 

[OddBall1st]

Sure he would. Gives him a reason excuse to pull the trigger.

For what ? They got called there.

 

[Blunted 4 lyfe]

For what ? They got called there.

I see you not from the hood, how many times don't you hear about folks who called the police wind up dead.

Where I'm from you fear the badge not the hoodies!!

B4L

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

i feel harassed because I made a purchase..did absolutely nothing wrong other than partake some of my purchase in their parking lot and pickup some free WiFi which is there for the customers.

..lights pop and of course I'm stoned..weed in the car..two cops shot out and shielded themselves with the van doors..I swear I thought they were gonna draw down on me

Wait, how can you both be doing absolutely nothing wrong and driving under the influence?

 

[schuylaar]

Wait, how can you both be doing absolutely nothing wrong and driving under the influence?

dude I've been smoking all my life so hardly under any influence.

also my driving capabilities didn't seem to concern them..backing my car into a space was the big question.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

dude I've been smoking all my life so hardly under any influence.

And that makes it any less illegal because? I know drunks who've never been in accident and never got a ticket. They're still drunk driving. You don't get a pass at an illegal activity because you don't feel like following the law.

The legalization of cannabis is only held back by people like you that drive under the influence and put others at risk.

 

[schuylaar]

And that makes it any less illegal because? I know drunks who've never been in accident and never got a ticket. They're still drunk driving. You don't get a pass at an illegal activity because you don't feel like following the law.

The legalization of cannabis is only held back by people like you that drive under the influence and put others at risk.

I disagree..that is not why cannabis is scheduled same as heroin.

when was the last time someone was killed because they smoked?

I can find plenty of stats regarding alcohol deaths.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

So you want to complain about the police and in the same breath admit to committing a crime and putting other lives in danger? Disingenuous at best.

Face it, driving under the influence isn't legal nor should it be. It's not as bad as driving drunk, but it's still dangerous.Not getting enough sleep can cause accidents. Prescription medications can cause accidents. Why do you think you are above the law? Why do you think others lives are less important then your selfish need to drive impaired? Do you see legalization as being helped or harmed by people taking unnecessary risks like DUI?

Ride a bike, walk, take public transportation, don't put others at risk and then brag about it, it's sad. Do you honestly think drunk driving is ok? No? Any kind of driving under the influence is dangerous and wrong and you know it.

 

[schuylaar]

So you want to complain about the police and in the same breath admit to committing a crime and putting other lives in danger? Disingenuous at best.

Face it, driving under the influence isn't legal nor should it be. It's not as bad as driving drunk, but it's still dangerous.Not getting enough sleep can cause accidents. Prescription medications can cause accidents. Why do you think you are above the law? Why do you think others lives are less important then your selfish need to drive impaired? Do you see legalization as being helped or harmed by people taking unnecessary risks like DUI?

Ride a bike, walk, take public transportation, don't put others at risk and then brag about it, it's sad. Do you honestly think drunk driving is ok? No? Any kind of driving under the influence is dangerous and wrong and you know it.

trump voter?

ftw..my driving skill was never questioned I was already in a parking space..why are you not getting this?

Jesus Christ, dude.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

trump voter?

ftw..my driving skill was never questioned I was already in a parking space..why are you not getting this?

Jesus Christ, dude.

Right to the ad hominem? Classy.

You said you were stoned and pulled into a parking space, ergo, you were driving under the influence. How are you not getting that this is a dangerous practice and only makes sensible cannabis users look bad?

 

[bearkat42]

And that makes it any less illegal because? I know drunks who've never been in accident and never got a ticket. They're still drunk driving. You don't get a pass at an illegal activity because you don't feel like following the law.

The legalization of cannabis is only held back by people like you that drive under the influence and put others at risk.

Not the same thing.

 

[bearkat42]

So you want to complain about the police and in the same breath admit to committing a crime and putting other lives in danger? Disingenuous at best.

Face it, driving under the influence isn't legal nor should it be. It's not as bad as driving drunk, but it's still dangerous.Not getting enough sleep can cause accidents. Prescription medications can cause accidents. Why do you think you are above the law? Why do you think others lives are less important then your selfish need to drive impaired? Do you see legalization as being helped or harmed by people taking unnecessary risks like DUI?

Ride a bike, walk, take public transportation, don't put others at risk and then brag about it, it's sad. Do you honestly think drunk driving is ok? No? Any kind of driving under the influence is dangerous and wrong and you know it.

Please Show me the statistics that prove the dangers of driving under the influence of marijuana.

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

Not the same thing.

Why? Because you want to feel that way? Are you trying to argue that cannabis does NOT impair judgment and reaction times? Because it does. All the empirical and anecdotal data confirms this. One of the reasons it feels good is because it does impair parts of your brain while stimulating others.

No state that has gone legal so far has also allowed people to drive while under the influence. Certainly the 5ng/mL limit some have imposed is ridiculous and over reaching, but no one arguing for legalization has also argued to allow people to drive while impaired. You know why? Because it's a bad fucking idea.

People driving impaired on cannabis will slow the legalization movement because it gives all the naysyaers and dogooders something to point to and say "aha see! they're endangering others"

I can't believe I'm having this much trouble explaining to people you shouldn't drive under the influence of anything. Fucking day 1 driving license material here.

 

[bearkat42]

Please Show me the statistics that prove the dangers of driving under the influence of marijuana.

Studies that do not show impairment
Surprisingly, given the alarming results of cognitive studies, most marijuana-intoxicated drivers show only modest impairments on actual road tests.37, 38 Experienced smokers who drive on a set course show almost no functional impairment under the influence of marijuana, except when it is combined with alcohol.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

Please Show me the statistics that prove the dangers of driving under the influence of marijuana.

http://norml.org/library/item/marijuana-and-driving-a-review-of-the-scientific-evidence

"Although cannabis intoxication has been shown to mildly impair psychomotor skills, this impairment does not appear to be severe or long lasting. In driving simulator tests, this impairment is typically manifested by subjects decreasing their driving speed and requiring greater time to respond to emergency situations."

Fucking NORML admits it impairs judgements.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving

Here's the government line, you know the one that ultimately controls whether not its illegal.

 

[bearkat42]

Why? Because you want to feel that way? Are you trying to argue that cannabis does NOT impair judgment and reaction times? Because it does. All the empirical and anecdotal data confirms this. One of the reasons it feels good is because it does impair parts of your brain while stimulating others.

No state that has gone legal so far has also allowed people to drive while under the influence. Certainly the 5ng/mL limit some have imposed is ridiculous and over reaching, but no one arguing for legalization has also argued to allow people to drive while impaired. You know why? Because it's a bad fucking idea.

People driving impaired on cannabis will slow the legalization movement because it gives all the naysyaers and dogooders something to point to and say "aha see! they're endangering others"

I can't believe I'm having this much trouble explaining to people you shouldn't drive under the influence of anything. Fucking day 1 driving license material here.

Since marijuana legalization, highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/08/05/since-marijuana-legalization-highway-fatalities-in-colorado-are-at-near-historic-lows/

 

[DutchKillsRambo]

Studies that do not show impairment
Surprisingly, given the alarming results of cognitive studies, most marijuana-intoxicated drivers show only modest impairments on actual road tests.37, 38 Experienced smokers who drive on a set course show almost no functional impairment under the influence of marijuana, except when it is combined with alcohol.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/

Dude your own link has several studies that do show impairment.

"Meta-analyses of over 120 studies have found that in general, the higher the estimated concentration of THC in blood, the greater the driving impairment, but that more frequent users of marijuana show less impairment than infrequent users at the same dose, either because of physiological tolerance or learned compensatory behavior. Maximal impairment is found 20 to 40 minutes after smoking, but the impairment has vanished 2.5 hours later, at least in those who smoke 18 mg THC or less (the dose often used experimentally to duplicate a single joint).58, 59"