bearkat42
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I remember walking 5 miles to school, barefoot and uphill both ways. Why in the fuck would I want my kids to?
Revealed: the 30-year economic betrayal dragging down Generation Y’s income
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bu$hleaguer
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Yeah it's kinda like comparing apples and asparagus though. These peeps are making $11-$15 an hour ya know, in an industry where they don't get a bonus as an hourly employee normally. Theres not a whole lot of glory in it other than its fun as hell and there's a paltry amount of responsibility. I have a happy group but fuck they're lazy!
bu$hleaguer
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100% agree. If it could be that way that would be amazing. I have no answer. I'm not really talking about my kids though?
ThickStemz
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I sell timeshare... there I've said it.
It's a good living.
We're about to take our annual batch of summer interns, college seniors. They always bitch about being ranked against their coworkers.
I like it. I'm not in the top 5 but occasionally I make a run at the top 10. Average 15. Hardly fall put of top 20. Out of 60 to 80 reps in season it's hard to make money out of top 50. But when you're new you get spots 30 to 45... in that range. You either sink or swim.
Undoubtedly all the 21 year olds think this is terribly unfair.
Padawanbater2
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Yeah, again with the useless generalizations
Why do you come with stories when I gave you the facts?
Is it because that's all you have, are stories? I have stories too, about young people, middle-aged people and old people that I've worked with who have been lazy at some point during the workday. You know why? Because being lazy isn't connected to age, being lazy is the opposite of being productive and if you look at graphs and statistics - you know, numbers - of the productivity of the workforce, it remains relatively constant;
The problem is, real wages have not kept up;
So, if productivity has remained relatively constant, and wages haven't kept up (and have actually declined pretty dramatically since 1964), where has that money that accounts for the same relative productivity gone?
Interesting, we're beginning to piece together a picture.. What the article in the OP brings to light is that
"A combination of debt, joblessness, globalisation, demographics and rising house prices is depressing the incomes and prospects of millions of young people across the developed world"
This is a complex issue that cannot simply be broken down to "They're just lazy"...
Excuse me, but give me a fucking break on that one, please.
Now these are the facts. Don't come back with more stories, go get the facts that corroborate your side of this story and prove to me with logic and reason why this article and the argument it presents is wrong, like a goddamn adult does.
Immortalpeace
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Lol I'm 22 and bet I outwork your ass every day of the week. Come to 7000 foot elevation and put in 10 hour days of hard labor. Id love to show you what putting in actual hard work is like. The time has changed and padawa brings great data to the table.
ThickStemz
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I didn't disagree with you. I'm just saying there is something different about millennials.Yeah, again with the useless generalizations
Why do you come with stories when I gave you the facts?
Is it because that's all you have, are stories? I have stories too, about young people, middle-aged people and old people that I've worked with who have been lazy at some point during the workday. You know why? Because being lazy isn't connected to age, being lazy is the opposite of being productive and if you look at graphs and statistics - you know, numbers - of the productivity of the workforce, it remains relatively constant;
The problem is, real wages have not kept up;
So, if productivity has remained relatively constant, and wages haven't kept up (and have actually declined pretty dramatically since 1964), where has that money that accounts for the same relative productivity gone?
Interesting, we're beginning to piece together a picture.. What the article in the OP brings to light is that
"A combination of debt, joblessness, globalisation, demographics and rising house prices is depressing the incomes and prospects of millions of young people across the developed world"
This is a complex issue that cannot simply be broken down to "They're just lazy"...
Excuse me, but give me a fucking break on that one, please.
Now these are the facts. Don't come back with more stories, go get the facts that corroborate your side of this story and prove to me with logic and reason why this article and the argument it presents is wrong, like a goddamn adult does.
You keep citing production or productivity but that's a false comparison becuase it's so much easier to be productive in this modern day with our technology.
bu$hleaguer
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Well then it doesn't apply to you then. Good job, keep working hard, we need more of you! Need a job?
something different? yeah they're a different generation and they grew up differently than we did and we grew up differently than our parents and our parents grew up differently than our grandparents and..are you getting the point?.we made them and have no one to blame (if any) but ourselves.
ThickStemz
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I graduated high school in 2001. A few months later we know what happened. I was on my way to college but a lot of my friends who weren't decided it'd be fun to go kill terrorists.I reported to US Army 1 week after graduating from high school in 1969, on my way to Vietnam........Millenialslol
I think there is a big difference between the older millenils and the younger ones.
Fogdog
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And yet your generation borrowed its way into a near-repeat of the great depression your parents experienced. What a fiscal slob your generation became.
doublejj
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Your welcome....we are handing you the greatest country on earth, don't fuck it up!
Fogdog
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Do you see how one can generalize about a generation in a banal way? Same with the young. Don't you remember how your parent's generation called your generation lazy and inept? Your generation came out OK, not perfect but OK. Same goes with every generation that has come through this world. It's my guess people have done this for as long as the human species have been able to talk.
doublejj
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But I didn't turn around and blame my parents.....I thanked them, for getting us this far.....you see the difference?
Fogdog
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Not really. Your generation threw rocks at the older generation. "Don't trust anybody over 30". The current generation actually likes their parents. Yours did not. Yours rejected them.
doublejj
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Well yeah, still living in their parents basement...move out & you can throw rocks
Fogdog
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Parents are moving in with their children now as well. The trend is in that direction. Within a decade more parents will be living in their kids apartment than the other way around because their indebted asses did not save enough. And you claim some higher ground. Same old self centered boomers.
doublejj
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Get off my lawn.....