FLUSHING before harvest... BS or not?

[superbak3d]

At some point the amateurs are going to finally figure out that no amount of flushing removes anything already taking up by the plant.

The only thing flushing does is dilute your medium and put your plants in a state of shock. With access to vital nutrients cut off from flushing, your plant yellows up and dies.

Flushing is for noobs. Simple as that.

 

[Ask Limpy]

You are telling us 3 seperate flushes would fix this? Talk about a black ash pheno lmao. I've never seen cured weed that burns black. That is just totally fucked up imo even overfed npk plants will burn white after a cure. Obviously the cure would take much longer though

Ok so your saying even tho the buds are full of chem that a cure will magically remove all the salts ? Bananas son

 

[Ask Limpy]

In the end as long as your happy with your product, I flush some don't to each thier own.

 

[SPLFreak808]

Ok so your saying even tho the buds are full of chem that a cure will magically remove all the salts ? Bananas son

who told you chemicals are stored in the buds? They were wrong and tell them to stop spreading false information because it makes a multiple decade long grower as you, talk nonsense with no scientific evidence at all. Can't do that at RIU. Too many smart scientific growers here and im not talking about my dumbass.

You are probably severely overfeeding the plants if you need to flush 3 times all in one month! Get that straight first then work on a tapered feed unflushed harvest. I've used gh's whole line up before, the nutes are perfectly fine for growing perfect plants. If you cant get it right then just switch to a living soil setup.

Also, im prety sure flushing your nutes out of the medium is WASTING not saving, Saving would be feeding less but to the end. The plant will actually use the nutrients! Thats not wasting since the nutes actually went somewhere. Dont worry though, all of us started off flushing at some point but damn 20 years is a long fucking time

 

[Ask Limpy]

who told you chemicals are stored in the buds? They were wrong and tell them to stop spreading false information because it makes a multiple decade long grower as you, talk nonsense with no scientific evidence at all. Can't do that at RIU. Too many smart scientific growers here and im not talking about my dumbass.

You are probably severely overfeeding the plants if you need to flush 3 times all in one month! Get that straight first then work on a tapered feed unflushed harvest. I've used gh's whole line up before, the nutes are perfectly fine for growing perfect plants. If you cant get it right then just switch to a living soil setup.

Also, im prety sure flushing your nutes out of the medium is WASTING not saving, Saving would be feeding less but to the end. The plant will actually use the nutrients! Thats not wasting since the nutes actually went somewhere. Dont worry though, all of us started off flushing at some point but damn 20 years is a long fucking time

Go with what works, as I said to each there own. And yes the chem you use is through out your entire plant, it doesn't all get turned into energy. it takes time for a plant to uptake and use enrergy and know if you'd have read back in the post I actually use a low ppm, less is more as they say, and my weed never burns black but I've encountered dirty weed in my time and seen weed from guys who didn't flush that burnt like shit too but hey if your happy with not flushing, don't flush. I know a lot of growers and not one would ever go with out flushing with water only in the last two weeks. I'd happily put the smoothness of thier's or mine up for scrutiny anytime.

 

[Ask Limpy]

We got a stupid one here.

Basic plant biology. You can't flush out anything the plant has already consumed.

Your move genius. Now go ahead and explain to us how flushing your medium removes already consumed nutrients?

We'll wait

Your not flushing it out, your flushing the soil or medium leaving the plant only clean water to uptake for the last two weeks giving it no choice but to use up whatever remaining salts are built up in the plant but hey I'm just a stupid one here, all good, this is an old argument and everyone knows that thier right, to each thier own,if your happy by all means don't flush.

 

[kiwipaulie]

i dont flush my tomatos and i dont flush my weed

 

[Ask Limpy]

i dont flush my tomatos and i dont flush my weed

I dont feed nutes to my food, I do water my garden between rains tho

 

[kiwipaulie]

I dont feed nutes to my food, I do water my garden between rains tho

Neither do I. I grow organically. The question was around flushing

 

[Ask Limpy]

Neither do I. I grow organically. The question was around flushing

And that's half the confusion around this question of flushing. I use salt based nutes and need to flush where organic may not. No two grows are exactly the same.

 

[kiwipaulie]

And that's half the confusion around this question of flushing. I use salt based nutes and need to flush where organic may not. No two grows are exactly the same.

Sorry I havnt read this thread from the start, but I was mainly just answering the op's question.

 

[SPLFreak808]

Go with what works, as I said to each there own. And yes the chem you use is through out your entire plant, it doesn't all get turned into energy. it takes time for a plant to uptake and use enrergy and know if you'd have read back in the post I actually use a low ppm, less is more as they say, and my weed never burns black but I've encountered dirty weed in my time and seen weed from guys who didn't flush that burnt like shit too but hey if your happy with not flushing, don't flush. I know a lot of growers and not one would ever go with out flushing with water only in the last two weeks. I'd happily put the smoothness of thier's or mine up for scrutiny anytime.

Ok, ill give you the opportunity to show me where you got this information?
What nutrients are you talking about specifically that gets left behind? (please dont say chlorophyll)
What difference can you tell between your flushed and un-flushed harvest?
Have you read the truth about flushing thread posted by dr.who on page 1? I mean wouldn't you want to know the truth and how it all works? Or nah you prefer random theories? When someone tells you 10+10=20 you need to understand the math before attempting to argue back that 10+10=10.

 

[chuck estevez]

And that's half the confusion around this question of flushing. I use salt based nutes and need to flush where organic may not. No two grows are exactly the same.

no, you really need to stop commenting and burying yourself,do yourself a favor please. get a basic botany book before making further comments
i'll leave this for you to study

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

based on the reasoning of needing a flush for synthetic nutes, then i should be able to water the last 2 weeks with orange juice (I'll use organic if it makes you feel better) and the plant will take it up and taste like orange juice? come on people, stop abusing your plants. Feed them only what they want and need and keep your root zone happy.

 

[abalonehx]

I flush my Cat piss plants with cat piss.
Gives em a more cat-pissy flavor.

 

[Capt. Stickyfingers]

This^^^^ is why it has become "gospel". No one knows really why. Know one really knows how. But everyone does it so i should too. Its bullshit. I remember the thread years ago on Overgrow.com where it all started....and its bullshit.

There werent any "flushing agents" from the industry before this. No one flushed plants back in the day. Its bro science. Started by some dorks on Overgrow.com and it started the whole ball rolling. And the growing community is just now seeing the whole flushing thing for what it always was.....bullshit.

Not even close. High times has been preaching about flushing since long before the internet. High times is responsible for the majority of urban myths regarding growing weed.

 

[abalonehx]

And that article I posted earlier says the ash color quality test was promoted by cigar snobs in the 1990's.
When did Overgrow start? Late 90's?

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

Not even close. High times has been preaching about flushing since long before the internet. High times is responsible for the majority of urban myths regarding growing weed.

they also ruined my first vape experience by saying an atmos raw was the number one vape. fuck you high times!!!

 

[since1991]

Not even close. High times has been preaching about flushing since long before the internet. High times is responsible for the majority of urban myths regarding growing weed.

I first heard of it on overgrow. When did high times preach that shit? I remember the exact thread it was on. It created quite a stir.

 

[RM3]

Well if ya liked my truth about flushing thread (be sure and read the update at the end)

ya might like this as well

https://www.rollitup.org/t/wow-riddle-has-a-question.339103/

nice to see this debate never ends LOL