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MijToe

MijToe

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Hello RIU community, My name is Mij Toe and i have a friend who has asked me to open a thread here to help him figure out what an valid setup for some plants would be.

So, he has ordered himself 1 G13 Sweet Amnesia and 1 Emerald Triangle Seeds Black Berry OG. As I am sure you know Amnesia is a sativa dom plant, and the last is an indica dom plant.

Due to restricted buget he opted for a 250W hps and he also plans to build a DIY grow tent from panda sheets and pvc pipes. He is aiming for an 70x70cm grow tent surface, thinking that that's the surface a 250w hps can handle succesfully and optimally. The height of the tent is not really decided,

The medium will be soil,

His questions are the following:

1. what kind of grow method should he apply for decent yields and reasonable harvest times. he was thinking of SOG, due to its simplicity and the "dont put all ur eggs in the same basket" principle. regarding SOG how many clones shold he put under that 250W and also how old the clones should be before they are put into flowering? also keeping in mind that there are 2 strains 1 sativa dom and the other indica dom, what would the challenges in SOG be ?

2. Also my buddy wants to include an air extractor with Carbon filter. he wants that the intake to be in the roof above the hps, the filter outside of the tent and the exaust thru a small window. how much noise does a small extractor make and how should he fix the fan not to vibrate and stuff?

3. time-wise, would SOG with clones be faster than LST and/or cropping the 2 plants ?

4. how big of pots shoud a sog grow need ? height is not an issue, but he would want to fill up the space nicely, keeping away from Scrog, because it's a pain in the ass in such a small space

5. how hot does a 250w get ? does it need a cool tube ? or the air extracted from the roof of the tent should be enough ?

Also hydro is not an option for him at the moment, and he also has a very low budget for this project.

Keeping all of the above in mind he is eager to hear advice suggestions and other constructive things from the vast experience of this community.

Thank you in advance guys, hope to post another thread in the grow journal area very soon after he has got it down regarding to the details above.

Peace guys.
 
MijToe

MijToe

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Kcbscrogger said:
Your "friend" needs to do some reading and research before getting into growing, people will help but YOU have to help yourself first.
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Hi scrogger. Ty for the reply. My friend has experience with outdoor grows, succesfull ones but he isn't really accustomed to small space indoor grow methods. So basicly he is a newbie. The advice is good, you can never learn too much but still that doesnt explicitly answer any of the questions :( He read alot on growing but also wanted to hear other oppinions and methods from more experienced growers like yourself, acknoleging that there are other ways to skin a cat and maybe his method has room for improvement. :D Maybe you can share your oppinion about this soon to be grow, it would be highly apreciated :)

Peace
 
tydot

tydot

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One thing I can tell you is the filter can't be outside the tent, has to draw air through it from inside the tent
 
tydot

tydot

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And I'm running a 250 watt hps, I've got a fan blowing on the lamp itself. I've got Intake about 12 inches off the floor and a extraction fan pulling through a carbon filter about 4 1/2 feet off the floor. I keep my light about 11 to 13 Iniches off plants with no cool tube and no heat issues. I did move it to about 10 inches above plants momentarily but seemed to be awful hot on the leaves so I moved it back up.
 
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$bkbbudz$

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MijToe said:
Hello RIU community, My name is Mij Toe and i have a friend who has asked me to open a thread here to help him figure out what an valid setup for some plants would be.

So, he has ordered himself 1 G13 Sweet Amnesia and 1 Emerald Triangle Seeds Black Berry OG. As I am sure you know Amnesia is a sativa dom plant, and the last is an indica dom plant.

Due to restricted buget he opted for a 250W hps and he also plans to build a DIY grow tent from panda sheets and pvc pipes. He is aiming for an 70x70cm grow tent surface, thinking that that's the surface a 250w hps can handle succesfully and optimally. The height of the tent is not really decided,

The medium will be soil,

His questions are the following:

1. what kind of grow method should he apply for decent yields and reasonable harvest times. he was thinking of SOG, due to its simplicity and the "dont put all ur eggs in the same basket" principle. regarding SOG how many clones shold he put under that 250W and also how old the clones should be before they are put into flowering? also keeping in mind that there are 2 strains 1 sativa dom and the other indica dom, what would the challenges in SOG be ?

2. Also my buddy wants to include an air extractor with Carbon filter. he wants that the intake to be in the roof above the hps, the filter outside of the tent and the exaust thru a small window. how much noise does a small extractor make and how should he fix the fan not to vibrate and stuff?

3. time-wise, would SOG with clones be faster than LST and/or cropping the 2 plants ?

4. how big of pots shoud a sog grow need ? height is not an issue, but he would want to fill up the space nicely, keeping away from Scrog, because it's a pain in the ass in such a small space

5. how hot does a 250w get ? does it need a cool tube ? or the air extracted from the roof of the tent should be enough ?

Also hydro is not an option for him at the moment, and he also has a very low budget for this project.

Keeping all of the above in mind he is eager to hear advice suggestions and other constructive things from the vast experience of this community.

Thank you in advance guys, hope to post another thread in the grow journal area very soon after he has got it down regarding to the details above.

Peace guys.
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Whoa Big Fella! ...

Just curious here. Why could your friend (let's call him Mr. Green) not become a member and start this thread himself? Since Mr Green did spend a lot of time reading, why does he need answers to some basic questions?

Something seems fishy to me...

I think Mr. Green just may be a fictional character and someone else (maybe it's Mr. Blue Badge) is posting this thread and has a general idea of what a grow should look like, but is having a problem.

Either way if someone needs help there are many who will offer it here.

ok 70 cm that is what..a bit more than 2 feet by 2 feet? Mr. Green will definitely need to cool that area with anything HID as a lighting source (and likely LED as well.) tell Mr. Green his best bet would be to go with T5 lighting. T5 puts off very little heat and can go very close to the plants...complete linear coverage...perfect for sog. An extractor inline fan/filter combo can be ducted into the tent as long as there is plenty of ambient air flow and extract the air through the ducting and out through the carbon scrubber. A small fan or two in the lower part of the tent for ambient air intake and Mr.Green is all set.

Anyway, to the OP the search button is your friend. TONS of info about sog, diy, lighting, ventilating, odor control etcetera. If one were to read every post on every thread in the growers forums here one of two things (or both) would happen

1) They could outgrow Jorge Cervantes and/or 2) they become blithering drooling idiots:bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint:

Good Luck and Great Growz
 
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tydot

tydot

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I think the op might be using the "swim" or some one who isn't me tactic that is used on various drug forums. Or maybe not, is a little wired tho lol
 
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