GroErr Grows...
Humanrob
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It is definitely an art form and GroErr excels at it.
Up until this current grow, I had been vegging for 6-8 weeks to try and get bigger plants and yields. I ran twice as many in the space this time, and only vegged for 3-4 weeks (some were started a week later than others). With the shorter veg time I had fewer opportunities to FIM or top them, and now that they are in flower the canopy is crazy all over the place. It's kind of fun though, since I didn't work the plant several times to even the heights and increase the number of main branches, they are pushing out fewer but bigger colas. Not optimal for overall weight I suspect, but it'll do this time.
ttystikk
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Fewer, bigger colas makes for more weight, even while spending less time trimming it.
GroErr
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Thanks, they are a good size for 2gal pots, anywhere from 22-25" from the soil line. Keep in mind these are in fabric pots which can handle a much bigger plant/root system. They went from party cups into 1gal fabrics for 14 days, then 6 days in 2gal's so about 3 weeks veg total (plus seedling stage in cups, I don't usually track/count that as many times they're in there waiting for veg space to become available). Cheers.
GroErr
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Cheers Mo, but these are straight up from seed, no training at all for seedlings so I can see how they're naked bodies look naturally
Some bad-ass production from a couple of these with no training though, can't wait to train a couple 2 rounds out to see what they can pull!
GroErr
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There's definitely a point of diminishing return with training, have to find it with each plant/pheno. I don't always train for yield, I like the plants a certain shape, more of an OCD thing, the extra yield is a bonus - lol
GroErr
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Cheers, I do like it but sometimes overdo it and maybe even lose some weight, but I like them even and a certain shape, call it OCD
Like ttystick mentioned, overall you may actually gain and it will make trimming easier.
Humanrob
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I've gone too far with shaping and had a bush of dime to quarter sized buds that took forever to process, so I know what you mean about diminishing returns. So far I've never let one go without at least topping once, but I don't have really tall ceilings in my grow spaces. Short and wide works for me.
Quick question -- do you find it difficult to re-pot from cloth pots? The one time I tried it I found I was tearing a lot of root tips that had grown into the sides. Since then I've been starting with 1 gallon plastic, and then when they're ready moving them into their final cloth pot. They seem to slide out easier and with less damage... but maybe I'm doing something wrong...?
GroErr
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12/12 FS outdoor, only in California
They do behave/grow quite different when going straight 12/12 from seed, have noticed that (indoor of course!).Hey, little stat I came across last week that you Cali folks may have a chuckle at:
The state of California has 3 million more people than ALL OF CANADA!
GroErr
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Yeah idk about losing weight overall but you can make the job of trimming more difficult and end up with smaller buds.
Funny you mention the hard time with up-potting from these fabric pots. I've heard that a couple of times. I find them easier than anything I've ever used but one thing that can make them stick is if the plants are too wet when you're trying to transplant. In between or dry is better I find, not too wet. All I do with the 1gal/2/3gal's is hold my thumbs across the bottom facing each other and my fingers up the sides of the pot (picture making an L shape with your hands, your thumbs being the short/bottom part of the L). Then I simply push my thumbs up and pull with my fingers on the sides down, kind of like peeling the pot off. Once it gets to a certain point and loose I grab the main stem and put it into the new pot. I don't worry about the odd root sticking to the pot, root system in these pots is completely different than your traditional circling roots in a plastic pot, the odd piece ripped off doesn't phase them. I've yet to have a shock problem during up-potting with these fabrics and I've been using them exclusively for at least 2 years.
BobBitchen
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I'v been "boating" mine, just pop the smaller pot in a bigger one and fill with medium
GroErr
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I'm too cheap for that - lol I have some 1gal's that are a couple of years old and still fine. I've seen a few people doing what you're saying, certainly easier
GroErr
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Can't have a page without pics. Some very pregnant Harlequin (F) x Blue Ripper (M) and Blue Ripper x Blue Ripper F2's. Pics were at Day 48 so they're Day 50 tonight. Harlequin finishes at ~50 days under CMH so I'm letting it go until Friday. The Blue Ripper F2's will be around Sunday/Monday. Getting some purple on that Blue Ripper under the LED's 
Blue Ripper:F2's:
Harlequin x Blue Ripper F1's
Cheers
Blue Ripper:F2's:
Harlequin x Blue Ripper F1's
Cheers
GroErr
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Wicked ice storm hit here last night, no power since 7:00 pm when the lights would have kicked in 
Girls are not going to be happy with 36 hours of darkness, they're at 6 weeks so hopefully they'll finish without any issues. With no air/fans/exhaust humidity's up around 75%. Been spraying the roots on the clones every few hours so they should be alright and the veg plants will be fine but it sucks. I keep charging my laptop in the car and running off a USB stick so I'm not totally cut off. Resort nearby has some backup power, good lunch Everything else is closed between good Friday holiday and no power, can't even get gas if I needed it. Half the province seems like it's in the same boat. Haven't seen this many trees down since the last big ice storm about 18 years ago, this one looks like it could be worse, wow, mother nature is pissed at something.
Girls are not going to be happy with 36 hours of darkness, they're at 6 weeks so hopefully they'll finish without any issues. With no air/fans/exhaust humidity's up around 75%. Been spraying the roots on the clones every few hours so they should be alright and the veg plants will be fine but it sucks. I keep charging my laptop in the car and running off a USB stick so I'm not totally cut off. Resort nearby has some backup power, good lunch Everything else is closed between good Friday holiday and no power, can't even get gas if I needed it. Half the province seems like it's in the same boat. Haven't seen this many trees down since the last big ice storm about 18 years ago, this one looks like it could be worse, wow, mother nature is pissed at something.
Humanrob
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I have one of those Honda generators, saved me a couple of times.
I'm really glad to see that first picture. I'm growing my first mostly Indica strain - Oregon Diesel - and the buds have some coloration that had me concerned enough to start a thread about it. I'll throw in a pic -- I was unsure about the grey color deep in the bud, almost looked like bud rot to me (even though I know its not). At any rate, its good to see that this color falls somewhere in the spectrum of normal, your Blue Ripper has a similar hue.Can't have a page without pics. Some very pregnant Harlequin (F) x Blue Ripper (M) and Blue Ripper x Blue Ripper F2's. Pics were at Day 48 so they're Day 50 tonight. Harlequin finishes at ~50 days under CMH so I'm letting it go until Friday. The Blue Ripper F2's will be around Sunday/Monday. Getting some purple on that Blue Ripper under the LED's
Blue Ripper:F2's:
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Harlequin x Blue Ripper F1's
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Cheers
GroErr
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Yeah that was my biggest concern, RH was hitting 80% and I opened the doors to get some airflow (stunk up the house but whatever, no visitors coming). We'll see if there's any issues, luckily they only have a couple of weeks left.