Billygreen
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What's up bigsmo
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Billygreen
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That sucks about your light , hopefully it's an isolated defect which can happen . I haven't seen any complaints in any forums that I've looked at . Crossing my fingers
SoOLED
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what!!!! at least you got out in front of the " I told'ya so!" bummer though it doesn't look random, driver maybe? guess it doesn't matter. hope you get it sorted out. if you lost faith, and can get a refund there is lots of other options out there.
VenomGrower6990
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Nice man!! Thanks for the advice.
VenomGrower6990
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Damn man soo sorry.
VenomGrower6990
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Gotta say your correct there. They draw like a little over 280w from the wall but for the price I am trying them. Your right its less than half. By the way im not into spending thousands to grow right now. Your right im jist a newbie but I do my homework.
mc130p
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Sorry to see your troubles. It's an all too common problem, that most of us here have experienced. I know that you want to get the best bang for your buck when it comes to buying a nice, efficient light to grow with. I have used all sorts of panels and the recommendations that you've been getting from people are solid recommendations for quality lights, with results that you can find in this very forum. I hope that you will take the time to read some threads here, or at least listen to the experienced advice that people are trying to give you. Take care and good luck!
VenomGrower6990
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Damn maybe I should have went with Kind but guess time will tell.
Resinhound
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Actually mars isnt that bad imo,you get what ypu pay for..they arent very efficient and the spread is horrible...but they are cheap.
You misundetstand me,so I want to make myself clear.This has nothing to do with bashing you for your purchase and everything to do with predatory companies like kind or platinum led.These companies prey on new growers who dont know any better,and fall for their flashy bullshit,gimmicks and lies.They are having lights made in china for $300 and selling the junk to you for $1400...and THAT pisses me off.Then you come on here telling everyone how good kind led is...even though you havent finished 1 fucking grow under them.
Im trying to avoid a repeat here...I hate to see new unsuspecting growers duped by these unscrupulous companies...and if you hate me for that,then so fucking be it.
So ya im bashing kind..because the fuckers deserve it.You dont however and im sorry for that.
When you run low efficiency lights you are throwing more money away..and kind doesnt care,they just want the fucking sale.They slap a warrenty on it because they know it will make people buy..but I ask you...what will happen to your plants when you have to ship you light back and wait for 3 weeks for the defective driver to be replaced.Or worse yet...the POS starts a fucking fire...
20% efficient led means that fully 80% of your precious 700 watts isnt even usable for your plants! Thats right...80 fucking percent heat and unusable light.Good grow lights are %40 efficient or better..and will have 2x PAR of your light...thats right...100% more fucking PAR...
So hate me and call me names..I really dont give a shit,but im not going to stand idlely by while another new grower gets duped by these assclowns at kind and platinum led.
Big smo
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It's tough with what you read on the Internet. Just say for instance resinhound worked for area51 and offered me free lights to post that pic. Didn't happen but it does. I went with kind cause I wanted 1/2 the bud I have seen it produce last run by a great friend. Yes it's a lot of cash but it's still a hell of a lot cheaper than some other brands out there. Then throw in all the cool shit along with the light. Sunrise sunset, remote, YouTube vids talking about the par levels, no need for venting all of it sold me.
I'm on edge now, I think many more will say get my money back than get a replacement. I guess if I change I need to think quick. I have 4 usable lights but they aren't ideal.
I'm not building a cob or spending 3000 on a single light. I'm also looking for a 1000 watt equivalent or close to. The area51's aren't even close to powerful enough. Also been hearing a lot of good with the cmh for flower and veg.
I'm on edge now, I think many more will say get my money back than get a replacement. I guess if I change I need to think quick. I have 4 usable lights but they aren't ideal.
I'm not building a cob or spending 3000 on a single light. I'm also looking for a 1000 watt equivalent or close to. The area51's aren't even close to powerful enough. Also been hearing a lot of good with the cmh for flower and veg.
Billygreen
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I started my grow with a 600 watt metal halide and the fucking ballast started melting the cord and smoking and fried the bulb etc . It's lucky someone was around . That was catching fire . So risk of malfunction is with anything you use . It's all about personal preference and what works for you . And Kind works for me . Until it lets me down I have no regrets. and the warranty adds comfort .
Resinhound
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Do yourself a favor and look at one of the only grow lights thats UL listed,uses top of the line nichia diodes,custom made optics,top of the line meanwell drivers and built to last.
Go look at apache grow lights,specifically the at600.
Aboit the area 51...these lights are crazy efficient.This means you dont need alot of watts to grow plants..because most of your light is Light your plants can use..dont consider just watts...its misleading when 80% of your watts arent even usable...this is why efficiency is key dude..the more efficient the light the more PAR per watt...does that make more sense.
Billygreen
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My plants are growing phenomenally with it . The proof is in the pics . They show amazing growth with strong thick stems and vertical as well as horizontal growth . Also the penetration through the canopy is remarkable as even lower growth is explosive so much so that I have to trim my plants every few days to contain them .
Resinhound
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The warrenty wont help your plants...
Billygreen
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I'm not an electrical engineer , I'm not the most apt tech wizard but trial and error is my thing along with self educating and as you have your opinions I have mine . I'm not a kind fanboy or some bullshitlike that I just can't find fault with them .
Resinhound
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You can veg with anything...you havent even finished one grow and you are on here preaching about kind led..
The dude just now showed you his light FUCKED UP...that right..popped a fucking Chinese driver already...jesus dude.
Billygreen
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That's why I have ordered multiple lights .
I have one kind and ordered another 3 1000 watt , I also have an 8 tube T5 and 2 600 watt hps if needed . If one needs to be repaired so be it . The yields I'll clear will pay for my lights after one to 2 grows . It works for me , having several lights helps also . I sincerely doubt they will all malfunction at once lol if they do I'll eat my words and admit it here until then I can't help but to defend the product that I'm using . If it turns out to be shit I'll be first to admit I made an error .
I have one kind and ordered another 3 1000 watt , I also have an 8 tube T5 and 2 600 watt hps if needed . If one needs to be repaired so be it . The yields I'll clear will pay for my lights after one to 2 grows . It works for me , having several lights helps also . I sincerely doubt they will all malfunction at once lol if they do I'll eat my words and admit it here until then I can't help but to defend the product that I'm using . If it turns out to be shit I'll be first to admit I made an error .
Resinhound
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It will turn out to be shit,and ill be waiting to hear from you.
Billygreen
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Here you are making this shit Personal again. It's just lights . You like what you like and I like what I like. I tried the traditional light and it almost burnt my spot down due to a faulty ballast . Shit happens . Until these lights let me down I'm good with them and would reccomend them .
Also I've talked to local growers and they are impressed with the growth my plants have exhibited under kind led . Again that's other people's opinions .
Also I've talked to local growers and they are impressed with the growth my plants have exhibited under kind led . Again that's other people's opinions .
Resinhound
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It is personal for me...I dont like predators.And thats what kind is...they lie and use unscrupulous sales tactics to dupe new unsuspecting growers. .thats why I dont like them...I dont really give a shit if you dont like me because of that,but thats just the way it fucking is bro.