USA move closer to equality in wages

What will increasing the minimum accompish?

  • Make a lot of workers very happy, and boost the economy

  • Cost jobs and drive businesses into bankruptcy

  • Nothing


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UncleBuck

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I guess if you`re selling cars. But supermarkets do it all the time.
tell me, are you allowed to have sex with other retarded people, since you are indeed retarded, or is it illegal for you to have sex with fellow retarded people since they can't really legally consent?

i've always wondered about this.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
tell me, are you allowed to have sex with other retarded people, since you are indeed retarded, or is it illegal for you to have sex with fellow retarded people since they can't really legally consent?

i've always wondered about this.

Fly her to Boston, we`ll see.
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

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It has always been the same, only the numbers are different. When people have more money, the cost of living goes up.

Take cigarettes, back when minimum wages was 3.75, in the 70`s, cigarettes were .75 cents. People make more money now, the companies paying off lawsuits and a pack of cigarettes in Boston is almost 11 dollars.

The day companies eat their money so you can have more,.... will never come.
By your dumb logic we should roll back minimum wage and the prices of goods will drop eh! Why stop there I would love to pay $26 dollars a month rent instead of paying this mortgage I have now, the 60's were a blast wasn't it? 5 cents for a roll of tp 30 cents for a loaf of bread 20 cents for a subway ride, $1.25 for a seat behind 1st base at Yankee Stadium (bleacher bumbs seats were 15 cents).

Shit you got it made a pack of smokes here in NY goes for $14 a pack $12-13 is a bargain, why do you think Eric Gardner died for selling "loosies".

B4L


  • The scheduled increases for Fast Food Workers will continue as follows:
  • New York State: $10.75 (12-31-16), $11.75 (12-31-17), $12.75 (12-31-18), $13.75 (12-31-19), $14.50 (12-31-20), $15.00 (12-31-21)
  • New York City: $12.00 (12-31-16), $13.50 (12-31-17), $15.00 (12-31-18)


    New York allows employers to make deductions to the applicable minimum wage rate for tips received, meals, or lodging provided to an employee. There are few exceptions to New York's minimum wage - farm workers, who are exempt in many other states, must earn at least $8.25 in New York.

    New York employers may not pay you under $9.00 per hour unless you or your occupation are specifically exempt from the minimum wage under state or federal law.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
please tell me who is not allowed to open up a business right now.
Your default assumption is that the government intervention which is everpresent now, doesn't apply and doesn't occur.

You are obviously wrong.

Also your use of the term "allow" is telling.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
By your dumb logic we should roll back minimum wage and the prices of goods will drop eh! Why stop there I would love to pay $26 dollars a month rent instead of paying this mortgage I have now, the 60's were a blast wasn't it? 5 cents for a roll of tp 30 cents for a loaf of bread 20 cents for a subway ride, $1.25 for a seat behind 1st base at Yankee Stadium (bleacher bumbs seats were 15 cents).

Shit you got it made a pack of smokes here in NY goes for $14 a pack $12-13 is a bargain, why do you think Eric Gardner died for selling "loosies".

B4L


  • The scheduled increases for Fast Food Workers will continue as follows:
  • New York State: $10.75 (12-31-16), $11.75 (12-31-17), $12.75 (12-31-18), $13.75 (12-31-19), $14.50 (12-31-20), $15.00 (12-31-21)
  • New York City: $12.00 (12-31-16), $13.50 (12-31-17), $15.00 (12-31-18)


    New York allows employers to make deductions to the applicable minimum wage rate for tips received, meals, or lodging provided to an employee. There are few exceptions to New York's minimum wage - farm workers, who are exempt in many other states, must earn at least $8.25 in New York.

    New York employers may not pay you under $9.00 per hour unless you or your occupation are specifically exempt from the minimum wage under state or federal law.

You forgot to consider and factor in the existence of regulatory and licensure barriers.

You conveniently ignore or don't understand their relationship and the unintended consequences they cause within the status quo of the present crony market.

In other words your erm "grasp" of economics is emotional, uniformed and cherry picking rather than factual.
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

Well-Known Member
You forgot to consider and factor in the existence of regulatory and licensure barriers.

You conveniently ignore or don't understand their relationship and the unintended consequences they cause within the status quo of the present crony market.

In other words your erm "grasp" of economics is emotional, uniformed and cherry picking rather than factual.
Look Chester this response I wrote was pointing out how dumb OddBalls comment were and that his logic made no sense.

I didn't point out to him the obvious differences from State regulations and taxes and how prices can be affected because I felt it was self evident.

Go find a school yard to enrich your disgusting fantasies or something, really nobody is interested in what you have to say, I know I don't ok Shorteyes!

B4L
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
A relevant quote found at the website Strike the Root today....enjoy.


The State Enables Sky-High CEO Salaries

It’s true that in a free market, a person’s income will tend to reflect the value of their work. However, in a free market, the person paying the worker usually has a fairly good view of the connection between the worker’s actions and the value of those contributions.
Alas, we do not live in a free market. State intervention massively hampers entrepreneurial activity by artificially increasing start-up costs through burdensome regulations and often, creating outright barriers to entry. This hampering of competition, in turn, protects established market actors from competition, allowing them to grow far beyond the size they could otherwise maintain in the face of unrestrained competition.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Look Chester this response I wrote was pointing out how dumb OddBalls comment were and that his logic made no sense.

I didn't point out to him the obvious differences from State regulations and taxes and how prices can be affected because I felt it was self evident.

Go find a school yard to enrich your disgusting fantasies or something, really nobody is interested in what you have to say, I know I don't ok Shorteyes!

B4L

Your disinterest is compounded by your low comprehension and predilection for Straw Man argument tactics.

Have a nice day.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
No, my family burned witches instead

when are you going to admit you're the admin of this website ?
why are you having such a hard time admitting to it?

want me to show you the birth and death records that led me back to your slave owning ancestors, and the census records which prove it?

it's mundane to hack it.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Your default assumption is that the government intervention which is everpresent now, doesn't apply and doesn't occur.

You are obviously wrong.

Also your use of the term "allow" is telling.
i was literally parroting your retarded rhetoric of imaginary persecution.

anyone who wants to can open a business.

you are retarded.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
By your dumb logic we should roll back minimum wage and the prices of goods will drop eh! Why stop there I would love to pay $26 dollars a month rent instead of paying this mortgage I have now, the 60's were a blast wasn't it? 5 cents for a roll of tp 30 cents for a loaf of bread 20 cents for a subway ride, $1.25 for a seat behind 1st base at Yankee Stadium (bleacher bumbs seats were 15 cents).

Shit you got it made a pack of smokes here in NY goes for $14 a pack $12-13 is a bargain, why do you think Eric Gardner died for selling "loosies".

B4L


  • The scheduled increases for Fast Food Workers will continue as follows:
  • New York State: $10.75 (12-31-16), $11.75 (12-31-17), $12.75 (12-31-18), $13.75 (12-31-19), $14.50 (12-31-20), $15.00 (12-31-21)
  • New York City: $12.00 (12-31-16), $13.50 (12-31-17), $15.00 (12-31-18)


    New York allows employers to make deductions to the applicable minimum wage rate for tips received, meals, or lodging provided to an employee. There are few exceptions to New York's minimum wage - farm workers, who are exempt in many other states, must earn at least $8.25 in New York.

    New York employers may not pay you under $9.00 per hour unless you or your occupation are specifically exempt from the minimum wage under state or federal law.

No, my dumb logic says when the dish washer makes as much as the cook, the cook will leave. It also says not to slap already earned pay increases in the face with the new guy getting that same wage for nothing.

Where does the poverty line end up in NY now ? Do people getting SNAP get more too now ?

Mandating that earned pay increases get the same bump up would square things off but that will never happen. Just the minimum wage increase is totally not fair to the earned pay increases. I`m sorry you don`t see that.
 

Blunted 4 lyfe

Well-Known Member
No, my dumb logic says when the dish washer makes as much as the cook, the cook will leave. It also says not to slap already earned pay increases in the face with the new guy getting that same wage for nothing.

Where does the poverty line end up in NY now ? Do people getting SNAP get more too now ?

Mandating that earned pay increases get the same bump up would square things off but that will never happen. Just the minimum wage increase is totally not fair to the earned pay increases. I`m sorry you don`t see that.
Really spoken like a republican, what you fail to comprehend is that the more expendable money a person has he/she will circulate it into the economy.

Besides your argument was that prices of goods go up when minimum wage goes up, and that in itself is an asinine statement prices go up because of demand.

And I would never eat where the cook is making as much as a dishwasher maybe I'm being picky about that but that's just me.

There are just too many folks who have feed their families while making $9.75 @ hour at 25-30 workweek, so they have make more money in order to survive or go get SNAP (which Republicans hate) but they'll give Corparate America billions. Fucking hypocrites that's all they are.

And since you align yourself with that view then I guess you're a hypocrite too.

B4L
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Really spoken like a republican, what you fail to comprehend is that the more expendable money a person has he/she will circulate it into the economy.

Besides your argument was that prices of goods go up when minimum wage goes up, and that in itself is an asinine statement prices go up because of demand.

And I would never eat where the cook is making as much as a dishwasher maybe I'm being picky about that but that's just me.

There are just too many folks who have feed their families while making $9.75 @ hour at 25-30 workweek, so they have make more money in order to survive or go get SNAP (which Republicans hate) but they'll give Corparate America billions. Fucking hypocrites that's all they are.

And since you align yourself with that view then I guess you're a hypocrite too.

B4L

First of all, my argument was cost of living. Yes, that is expected purchases by all and target of increases in price.

Second, If it`s all good to raise minimum wage, why is it not good to put more money out in the economy and match those over minimum wage with the same increase ?

Trying to feed your family sand pay bills is not a wage thing, it`s a price thing. There are no caps on price gouging.

If insurance, rent, medical, auto, and clothing were not so high priced, things could be doable comfortably. It doesn`t matter how much you make, they will want more on the other end.
I don`t align myself with those views.

Lowering prices and making less profits is something Democrats can`t do.

If I gotta pay my workers more to produce steel, then it`ll cost more to buy it. I wont eat that cost.
Since steel just went up, the market has to pay more for it and will factor that into their product. Higher product price means we pay more. and, Retailer pay a bigger percent tax wise too. (I think). Don`t quote me on that last sentence.

If I gotta pay my guys more to produce plastic........??

If I gotta pay my guys more to produce beef,..... ???


All they way down the spectrum.

All I see is Democrats buying votes.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
you don't have any workers.

but if that's so true, then why do big macs cost less in australia?

their min wage is more than double what ours is.
They`re doing something right, We are doing something wrong. The numbers don`t add up, There`s about 30 million in Aussie to our 300 million or so here. supply and demand are not even close.
 

UncleBuck

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They`re doing something right, We are doing something wrong. The numbers don`t add up, There`s about 30 million in Aussie to our 300 million or so here. supply and demand are not even close.
once you get done explaining that one, einstein, you'll have to explain why denmark pays 3 times what we do for minimum wage, and pays only a fraction more for a big mac.

get my dick out of your mouth.
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
once you get done explaining that one, einstein, you'll have to explain why denmark pays 3 times what we do for minimum wage, and pays only a fraction more for a big mac.

get my dick out of your mouth.
Again, you find a smaller number to compare to a much larger one. If McD`s can get more from a US buyer than a Aussie, they will. So would you. I guess nothing`s wrong in Denmark, the problem is here.
 
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