Ttystikk's vertical goodness

RM3

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Cannacat said:
Now that's what I was looking for, flicking backwards through the thread! Wow, they're huge, that's beautiful! Is that really one plant, cos I can only see one big stem but... well, it's enormous?Wow! We've been having discussions, the last few days, about when ours will be ready. We're like, 5 or 6 weeks into 12/12 and I refuse to schedule a date on the calendar and say that this is when we're taking them down. I'm not taking them down until I can see that they're ready. My middle man insists that another week and they'll be far enough that he can get rid, and insists he needs a final date. After looking at your buds, and seeing them up close at that massive scale, I can see the differences in the development between yours and mine and now feel more confident in insisting that I will know when they're done and they won't come down a second before. Why rush them now, after all this time? You've done an awesome job with the vertical grow :peace:
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You can always post a pic and get our opinion 8)

after all I am the guy with are they done link in my sig
 
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m4s73r said:
ahh ok. So they will be self contained units?
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They're the same RDWC system and tubs. The only thing I'm doing is replacing the netpot bucket lids and five gallon bucket spacers with the whole five gallon bucket, full of coco. It's quite literally a drop in fit. Since there's no need for deep water and circulation, there will no longer be a circ pump or water cooling coil. Instead, the same pump will operate intermittently on a short cycle timer to fertigate the plants, top feed style just like they are now.

Excess water will run out of many drain holes drilled into the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket and puddle in the bottom of the tub. Roots will follow it out and soak up the excess as the plants get bigger. The roots won't air prune because they'll be in humid dark conditions, soaking up water.

The connecting lines of the RDWC system will be very useful to flush and drain the system between runs. Other than that I'm not sure it will be used. In this way, I'm ensuring that the floor will finally, for once and for all, be dry and clean! Before, if it wasn't leaking, it was condensation that led to chronically wet floors. Not acceptable.
 
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ttystikk said:
They're the same RDWC system and tubs. The only thing I'm doing is replacing the netpot bucket lids and five gallon bucket spacers with the whole five gallon bucket, full of coco. It's quite literally a drop in fit. Since there's no need for deep water and circulation, there will no longer be a circ pump or water cooling coil. Instead, the same pump will operate intermittently on a short cycle timer to fertigate the plants, top feed style just like they are now.

Excess water will run out of many drain holes drilled into the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket and puddle in the bottom of the tub. Roots will follow it out and soak up the excess as the plants get bigger. The roots won't air prune because they'll be in humid dark conditions, soaking up water.

The connecting lines of the RDWC system will be very useful to flush and drain the system between runs. Other than that I'm not sure it will be used. In this way, I'm ensuring that the floor will finally, for once and for all, be dry and clean! Before, if it wasn't leaking, it was condensation that led to chronically wet floors. Not acceptable.
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Do you have a plan of attack for the ever friendly fungus gnat?
I find them to be a constant battle when I bring coco indoors - Bastards!! :fire:
 
Cannacat

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RM3 said:
You can always post a pic and get our opinion 8)

after all I am the guy with are they done link in my sig
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I will, don't worry lol I intend to. I know they aren't ready yet, there's new pics in my journal if you want a look but when I'm thinking they look done, I'll be checking with you guys before I chop anything!
kiwipaulie said:
Hey bro. I use this stuff. One drench and they are history.

Might be able to find it closer to you or another name?

http://www.easygrow.co.nz/pest-control/812-vecto-bac-10grms.html
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I can't seem to find anything that anybody's recommended to me easily available in the UK! The gnats didn't bother me, I only see the odd one and they're a bit annoying but I put up some sticky strips and didn't worry much about it. Then I saw the larvae. I need that shit out of my plants. I can't be faced with them every time I water, they're ruining growing for me! Will this do it? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tanlin-20ml-Fungus-Gnat-Fly-Pesticide-Larvae-Killer-CX-Hydroponics-/261923597652?hash=item3cfbdced54:g:PZ0AAOSwNSxVeA8g
 
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ttystikk

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a mongo frog said:
Not sure what Homer bucket is, but no 5 gallon aint large. Some reason i imagined big pots. 15's or 20's.
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Every orange 5 gallon pail in a Home dePot is a Homer bucket, they used to actually have a pic of big Daddy Simpson.

The plants will get the 5 gallons of coco to stretch out in, then both excess water and the roots to use it will flow thru the holes I'll drill in the bottom of the pail.

My concern is that 5 gallon pails aren't big enough so I'm trying to find space for the overflow.
 
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ttystikk said:
Every orange 5 gallon pail in a Home dePot is a Homer bucket, they used to actually have a pic of big Daddy Simpson.

The plants will get the 5 gallons of coco to stretch out in, then both excess water and the roots to use it will flow thru the holes I'll drill in the bottom of the pail.

My concern is that 5 gallon pails aren't big enough so I'm trying to find space for the overflow.
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Why not just fill your totes with coco?
 
garlictrain

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ttystikk said:
Nice work! I can pull big yields from RDWC, it's just too damned finicky.

Can you tell me a bit more about your hempy DTW setup? That's the route I'm going this time.
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ttystikk said:
Ok, I see. I'll be doing something similar with coco, only my hempy/sip will just be the same RDWC tubs I'm running now. I won't fill them and circulate water, of course, instead I'll be top feeding a 5 gallon bucket with holes drilled in the bottom. Excess water will run out those holes and get caught in the tub, roots will follow and the whole thing should easily support the growth of a two to three pounder.
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that was essentially my last run. testing larger (5gal) coco hempy "top pulse" fed (thanks homebrew420!) dtw with a giant pond liner catch that roots swimming in salts by day 14.

at 2 plants per light my largest plant yielded 1.25 lbs and my smallest was a cindy99 runt that pulled 10 oz under a 1/2 k.

i run a few **cough, cough** rooms so in another I had 2 gal coco hempys top pulse fed about 4-6 per light (strain dependent). i like the 5's for lower plant count but for abundance of medicine shorter veg, unicrop, pulse feed dtw. truth be told i've thrown regular pots coco non hempys into the same set up and push that as the beginner package.

the veg on my 2 gals vs 5 gals is 1-2wks vs 4-5 wks respectively. my 2 gals crushed the 5's and i have the nums to be legally flying. with rotating blooms i can pre-veg in the room i'll be flipping in.
 
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Are you going to be reusing your coco?

I agree, you don't need a large volume of coco to grow a monster plant for a long time with proper irrigation timing
 
ttystikk

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garlictrain said:
that was essentially my last run. testing larger (5gal) coco hempy "top pulse" fed (thanks homebrew420!) dtw with a giant pond liner catch that roots swimming in salts by day 14.

at 2 plants per light my largest plant yielded 1.25 lbs and my smallest was a cindy99 runt that pulled 10 oz under a 1/2 k.

i run a few **cough, cough** rooms so in another I had 2 gal coco hempys top pulse fed about 4-6 per light (strain dependent). i like the 5's for lower plant count but for abundance of medicine shorter veg, unicrop, pulse feed dtw. truth be told i've thrown regular pots coco non hempys into the same set up and push that as the beginner package.

the veg on my 2 gals vs 5 gals is 1-2wks vs 4-5 wks respectively. my 2 gals crushed the 5's and i have the nums to be legally flying. with rotating blooms i can pre-veg in the room i'll be flipping in.
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That's a lot to suggest. I'm sure I'll have some questions for you. Meanwhile, thank you for this!

Can you explain a lil more about pulse top feed?
 
ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
Are you going to be reusing your coco?

I agree, you don't need a large volume of coco to grow a monster plant for a long time with proper irrigation timing
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At the moment, since I'm emulating another setup, I'll be tossing my coco every run like they do. I'm not happy about it, either.
 
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I can see why on a commercial scale they don't reuse it due to labor issues. The grow bag with the coco block already in them look like a perfect setup for someone running high plant counts.
I have a set of pots that are going on like round 4 with coco/perlite and a tad hydroton mixed in :oops:
Whenever I have "extra's" they seem to find a home there and do quite well with neglectful hand watering
 
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OneHitDone said:
I can see why on a commercial scale they don't reuse it due to labor issues. The grow bag with the coco block already in them look like a perfect setup for someone running high plant counts.
I have a set of pots that are going on like round 4 with coco/perlite and a tad hydroton mixed in :oops:
Whenever I have "extra's" they seem to find a home there and do quite well with neglectful hand watering
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I'm a big fan of recycling. The commercial ops do it this way because of regulations, not by choice. Long story.
 
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