Biobizz...your thoughts?

[LUDACRIS]

biobizz grower here, well feeds. lots of other good compost's about tho
dunno about in hyrdo it cant be left in tanks i kno that its for soil coco etc mainly
i use grow bloom and epsom salts when needed plus the odd seaweed extract+iron and molasses (alot)

get your water right and you don't need epson salts.
LUDA.

 

[Herbzman]

is biobizz made for hydro? can it be used in soil? i'm thinking of going organic on my next grow will the grow & bloom be enough to get me going?

Can someone please answer this if they know? I saw BioBizz All-Mix Soil under the -hydroponics- section of a grow shop website, but i bought it anyway with the intention of growing in soil. But going by the name of the product, yeah i think its soil AND hydro. I just want to make sure.

Also, for the first few weeks of veg, will this soil mix be ok to grow in or should there be no nutrients available to the plant?

 

[northendgrower]

Can someone please answer this if they know? I saw BioBizz All-Mix Soil under the -hydroponics- section of a grow shop website, but i bought it anyway with the intention of growing in soil. But going by the name of the product, yeah i think its soil AND hydro. I just want to make sure.

Also, for the first few weeks of veg, will this soil mix be ok to grow in or should there be no nutrients available to the plant?

Its made for soil, but you can also use it for hydro.

 

[Majestic Pagent]

Hey, read your post on biobizz - i'm using it and have been having some problems. I germinated my seeds in all-mix, and they haven't been looking very happy. Do you start yours off in low nute compost and transfer them after a few weeks? If so, how long do you leave them before you start giving them feed? Mine look like they have been (and are still) struggling with nutrient burn, and some of them haven't really grown at all since the third week! They are at about six weeks now, but are nowhere as vigorous as they should be. This is my first grow, so any advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[dirt clean]

I would guess it is the burn. I got the same thing in fox farm ocean forest. Letting them run their course fixed it for me in a few weeks.

 

[iloveit]

I have a question a little off topic: The PH on the BioBizz Light Mix is "6.1 - 6.3" but I like to PH my water at 6.5 so how will that affect the intake of nutrients? As you can tell I dont understand PHing of soil as good as PHing of water. Can somebody kindly explain briefly.

 

[CheesyBubble]

One 1 ................................ Shit

 

[dirt clean]

what is the ph of your runoff? That is your soil ph. that is what matters. If it has dolomite lime in their I bet with those ph numbers you are in the right ball park. Here is a graph of ph.

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[iloveit]

what is the ph of your runoff? That is your soil ph. that is what matters. If it has dolomite lime in their I bet with those ph numbers you are in the right ball park. Here is a graph of ph.

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Thanks dirtclean.

 

[cannakis]

Resurrecting this thread! Anyone still using BioBizz these days besides me now?!

 

[cannakis]

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2015/04/exclusive-scotts-hydroponics-deal-was-its-biggest.html

Miracle Grow's Scotts bought General Hydroponics!

I heard GH bought BioBizz?!?

 

[MistaRasta]

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2015/04/exclusive-scotts-hydroponics-deal-was-its-biggest.html

Miracle Grow's Scotts bought General Hydroponics!

I heard GH bought BioBizz?!?

I have bottles of Bio-Buzz down on the shelf I've been saving that are going to get thrown at the heads of the owners of Scott's if I ever see them.... That's about all their good for imo.

There are 4 places in which Omri certification take place. Two of them being Europe and America.

Not entirely sure of the relationship between Gh and Biobizz but I've read that Gh helped Biobizz distribute their product throughout the US, and get an Omri certification on their bottles in the US (all except the bloom). Biobizz in return pays them heftily for it. That's about as far as it goes..

And the exact reason you shouldn't be working with bottled nutrients like bio buzz.

 

[cannakis]

I have bottles of Bio-Buzz down on the shelf I've been saving that are going to get thrown at the heads of the owners of Scott's if I ever see them.... That's about all their good for imo.

There are 4 places in which Omri certification take place. Two of them being Europe and America.

Not entirely sure of the relationship between Gh and Biobizz but I've read that Gh helped Biobizz distribute their product throughout the US, and get an Omri certification on their bottles in the US (all except the bloom). Biobizz in return pays them heftily for it. That's about as far as it goes..

And the exact reason you shouldn't be working with bottled nutrients like bio buzz.

I disagree. I think IF that were true it is smart, using an existing company to help you build your own, especially if At The time they weren't own by Monsanto/Scotts.

If You were trying to build your own business wouldn't you like to be certified to be allowed to sell in the States.?! Yeah it sucks all the bull shit but if we want to do something about then we Need to Tell our Representatives and Run for Office ourselves!!!

And I think BioBizz is the best for bottles besides like Nectar for the gods which is a different type kind of being calcium based. BioBizz is the fermented liquids, and if they can do it right I'll help support them for a while.

 

[Zombie brains]

Resurrecting this thread! Anyone still using BioBizz these days besides me now?!

I'm just finishing up a run using BioBizz mate. Chopped a branch off each three today to start my harvest, I like to harvest bit by bit due to the time involved. Have to say I've had zero issues using it and my nugs look good!
Pic below, enjoy.

 

[MistaRasta]

I disagree. I think IF that were true it is smart, using an existing company to help you build your own, especially if At The time they weren't own by Monsanto/Scotts.

If You were trying to build your own business wouldn't you like to be certified to be allowed to sell in the States.?! Yeah it sucks all the bull shit but if we want to do something about then we Need to Tell our Representatives and Run for Office ourselves!!!

And I think BioBizz is the best for bottles besides like Nectar for the gods which is a different type kind of being calcium based. BioBizz is the fermented liquids, and if they can do it right I'll help support them for a while.

Yeah, that's probably not true thinking back. Just something I read a while back, you just happened to spark the memory.

As for biobizz. Still useless junk imo. Build your soil right and you don't need bottles. Sure, the guy at the hydro store is going to tell you that bottled nute will push your plant harder and make your dank more dank, but at the end of the day he's just trying to pay his bills.

I mean look at their bloom- it's molasses and kelp. I can source these products a lot cheaper, and guess what? Because they didn't go through fermentation and their fresh I get all the added benefits that get taken away when bottled like phytogens, secondary metabolites, fatty acids, enzymes, fatty alcohols. All for pennies on the dollar..

'Biologically Minded' my ass. There's nothing biologically minded about bottling up kelp, beetroot extract, and mollases and shipping it half way around the world in plastic labeled bottles to make a profit. If you were really biologically minded you'd teach people to use biological controls in their surrounding environment.

 

[cannakis]

Yeah, that's probably not true thinking back. Just something I read a while back, you just happened to spark the memory.

As for biobizz. Still useless junk imo. Build your soil right and you don't need bottles. Sure, the guy at the hydro store is going to tell you that bottled nute will push your plant harder and make your dank more dank, but at the end of the day he's just trying to pay his bills.

I mean look at their bloom- it's molasses and kelp. I can source these products a lot cheaper, and guess what? Because they didn't go through fermentation and their fresh I get all the added benefits that get taken away when bottled like phytogens, secondary metabolites, fatty acids, enzymes, fatty alcohols. All for pennies on the dollar..

'Biologically Minded' my ass. There's nothing biologically minded about bottling up kelp, beetroot extract, and mollases and shipping it half way around the world in plastic labeled bottles to make a profit. If you were really biologically minded you'd teach people to use biological controls in their surrounding environment.

This is Not true. Cabbage is Fermented to make Sauerkraut, it is the Fermentation that gives the cabbage its Life saving and nourishing qualities of Vitamin C and what have you. Which is why Captain James Cook paved the way in bringing Sauerkraut on ships to prevent Scurvy.

So I agree I can source "their products" by using Dry Molasses which is basically "all of their products" But it's Not really, because they Ferment and process the Soy further as well as the Beets, giving them Different qualities/virtues than their immediate base self.

 

[MistaRasta]

This is Not true. Cabbage is Fermented to make Sauerkraut, it is the Fermentation that gives the cabbage its Life saving and nourishing qualities of Vitamin C and what have you. Which is why Captain James Cook paved the way in bringing Sauerkraut on ships to prevent Scurvy.

So I agree I can source "their products" by using Dry Molasses which is basically "all of their products" But it's Not really, because they Ferment and process the Soy further as well as the Beets, giving them Different qualities/virtues than their immediate base self.

Everything listed above is what you lose in process of fermentation. The mineral and elemental value are obviously still there being that it was fermented to get to this point..to take the control (substance) to its base (elemental) form to make all mineral value available immediately.

So even when I make a fermented plant extract i lose out on a bunch of secondary advantages that could be had at a much cheaper price paired with the fact that it actually is biologically minded to just top dress kelp and water it in with molasses.

 

[MistaRasta]

^^Not to mention, I don't use soy protein ferments/extracts or beet root ferments/extracts 95% of soy /beetroot is gmo'd and I doubt these guys are using the good stuff. Through fermentation nasties are released (from gmo's) as the ph declines.

Tbh, I don't use mollases either. Don't really need sugar sources anymore..

 

[bmgnoot]

i knew i was 100% done (well probalby 90%, but now i know a bit more!) with bottle companys when i was at my local grow shop and mentioned switching to full organics after some preliminary research and the two guys working there said "dont do it dude, dont do it, such a pain in the ass" .... sooo ya...

 

[cannakis]

^^Not to mention, I don't use soy protein ferments/extracts or beet root ferments/extracts 95% of soy /beetroot is gmo'd and I doubt these guys are using the good stuff. Through fermentation nasties are released (from gmo's) as the ph declines.

Tbh, I don't use mollases either. Don't really need sugar sources anymore..

Well considering it is made in Holland and they have Banned all GMOs and glyphosate I do Not believe that those crops are tainted by pesticides and herbicides, nor causing tumors and sterility.

Everything listed above is what you lose in process of fermentation. The mineral and elemental value are obviously still there being that it was fermented to get to this point..to take the control (substance) to its base (elemental) form to make all mineral value available immediately.

So even when I make a fermented plant extract i lose out on a bunch of secondary advantages that could be had at a much cheaper price paired with the fact that it actually is biologically minded to just top dress kelp and water it in with molasses.

Do you Not understand the Sauerkraut reference?!? Okay, what about Beer and Wine?! Both are Healthy in small amounts and if you were to eat the Hops and Barkey separately you would Not have the same product.

i knew i was 100% done (well probalby 90%, but now i know a bit more!) with bottle companys when i was at my local grow shop and mentioned switching to full organics after some preliminary research and the two guys working there said "dont do it dude, dont do it, such a pain in the ass" .... sooo ya...

Haha yeah I realized the guy up there didn't even Know that BioBizz Does lost their ingredients on the bottles it's just Behind the label you have to peel it!!!

It is more of like Yes you can body build with Just a Simple organic diet, But to Really achieve Astounding results is to use Supplements. I've been feeding a Good diet, Now it's time to Supplement!!!