ChesusRice
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I wonder how long the Russians were paying him
Snowden Expects to be Hijacked By 'Seal Team 6' in Oslo
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Dogenzengi
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Padawanbater said,
"universal healthcare is NOT government control"
WTF?
Who Fines you when you don't join Obamacare?
The Goverment is who fines you.
My girlfriend works for an elder female friend as a home aid and caretaker.
She worked for cash till Obamacare stuck it's nose in her life.
Me I have Goverment controlled healthcare, it's called Medicare.
Look at any country with free healthcare and you will see a waiting list for all the important medical care they offer.
Sure treat they would treat my cold for free, but what about my Back injury?
I would have to wait in line for a free surgery.
I prefer the old way, earn money, invest wisely and save for things like health insurance and all other annual or large ticket items.
Bless,
DZ
"universal healthcare is NOT government control"
WTF?
Who Fines you when you don't join Obamacare?
The Goverment is who fines you.
My girlfriend works for an elder female friend as a home aid and caretaker.
She worked for cash till Obamacare stuck it's nose in her life.
Me I have Goverment controlled healthcare, it's called Medicare.
Look at any country with free healthcare and you will see a waiting list for all the important medical care they offer.
Sure treat they would treat my cold for free, but what about my Back injury?
I would have to wait in line for a free surgery.
I prefer the old way, earn money, invest wisely and save for things like health insurance and all other annual or large ticket items.
Bless,
DZ
Padawanbater2
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People don't die of preventable causes because they can't afford healthcare in countries that implement single payer
45,000 Americans died every year before the ACA was implemented
"Waiting lines" are a myth, people get higher quality care when they need it at a lower cost than Americans
Healthcare is not an issue in these countries because people get what they need. It is an issue in this country because it's expensive and people still don't get what they need. By no metric is the American system better. None.
ttystikk
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Right. That old way included the insurance company denying your claim because you didn't admit you had a cold. Yes, it actually happened.
Or have you forgotten about the insanity known as 'preexisting conditions' already?
The ACA made THAT shit a thing of the past so that now, no matter how sick you are, you can still get health insurance.
Selective memory. Another fascist trait, freely adopted by those who think they'd get ahead under such a system but instead get ground under their heel.
Dogenzengi
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Profit thru business ownership is the way I learned to secure my future from my Dad.
He had 80 employees and he gave to multiple charities in healthcare specifically cancer.
My Mom is a cancer surivior.
He helped his employees by supplying full NY state Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance to his employees and families.
My Dad helped 3 of his employees start competitive businesses, who does that?
I followed the same model.
I had 9 employees in my largest business, instead of supply healthcare, I supplied business acumen and helped every single employee start a business and get all they needed from me and the other companies in my local three counties.
Every employee got access to my lawyer and my account and my insurance broker and I paid for the first 3 months for everyone of them, I paid for the 9 people to have businesses in 1994-98 and 4 are still running and they added services and grew client bases.
I guarantee you don't get that kind of hand up unless you meet a guy like me with a Dad like mine was.
I'm Retired and I live on investments yet last year I spent 10 months straight caring for a friend with cancer.
He had no insurance and never made enough to afford Obamacare, he got emergency social security during his treatment which supplied very poor insurance thru Obamacare.
I could have paid for his care but I decided to do it myself.
I put my life on hold for my friend, I could have kept goofing off like I do now instead I took over.
I even stopped growing and paid for bud plus smoked my reserves and made my friend tincture, capsules and chocolates to help him ease his nausea and make him smile.
I drove him to every appointment and I physically lived with in his home 6 days a week for 5 months so he could have a person who cared about him care for him.
He was told to wait 90 days and come in for a Scan, he lived 1 month past that scan.
Cancer was in every part of his anatomy.
I am not tooting my own horn, I was raised to help those I love.
I did not make a penny, I did it for love in fact I paid for his dental care out of my pocket.
He had throat cancer and needed dental work badly so I spent about 5k to pay for his dental work.
Some would say I wasted money, he was given insurance with his emergency S.S but they would NOT cover his dental even though his Cancer Dr said it was important to remove teeth that would be killed by his radiation treatments.
He could not look to his family and he had no savings, he lived as a musician playing with multiple bands to make a simple living.
He worked for cash and lived a cash life, he would be sleeping on my couch if he had to pay for insurance.
He had not had a bank account since the 80's.
Personally I wish he was sleeping on my Couch but All Life ends in Death, always.
Bless,
DZ
He had 80 employees and he gave to multiple charities in healthcare specifically cancer.
My Mom is a cancer surivior.
He helped his employees by supplying full NY state Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance to his employees and families.
My Dad helped 3 of his employees start competitive businesses, who does that?
I followed the same model.
I had 9 employees in my largest business, instead of supply healthcare, I supplied business acumen and helped every single employee start a business and get all they needed from me and the other companies in my local three counties.
Every employee got access to my lawyer and my account and my insurance broker and I paid for the first 3 months for everyone of them, I paid for the 9 people to have businesses in 1994-98 and 4 are still running and they added services and grew client bases.
I guarantee you don't get that kind of hand up unless you meet a guy like me with a Dad like mine was.
I'm Retired and I live on investments yet last year I spent 10 months straight caring for a friend with cancer.
He had no insurance and never made enough to afford Obamacare, he got emergency social security during his treatment which supplied very poor insurance thru Obamacare.
I could have paid for his care but I decided to do it myself.
I put my life on hold for my friend, I could have kept goofing off like I do now instead I took over.
I even stopped growing and paid for bud plus smoked my reserves and made my friend tincture, capsules and chocolates to help him ease his nausea and make him smile.
I drove him to every appointment and I physically lived with in his home 6 days a week for 5 months so he could have a person who cared about him care for him.
He was told to wait 90 days and come in for a Scan, he lived 1 month past that scan.
Cancer was in every part of his anatomy.
I am not tooting my own horn, I was raised to help those I love.
I did not make a penny, I did it for love in fact I paid for his dental care out of my pocket.
He had throat cancer and needed dental work badly so I spent about 5k to pay for his dental work.
Some would say I wasted money, he was given insurance with his emergency S.S but they would NOT cover his dental even though his Cancer Dr said it was important to remove teeth that would be killed by his radiation treatments.
He could not look to his family and he had no savings, he lived as a musician playing with multiple bands to make a simple living.
He worked for cash and lived a cash life, he would be sleeping on my couch if he had to pay for insurance.
He had not had a bank account since the 80's.
Personally I wish he was sleeping on my Couch but All Life ends in Death, always.
Bless,
DZ
ttystikk
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Bless YOU.
Without giving people like yourself, civilisation itself ends in a death spiral of greed and evil- evil being defined in my world not by religious terminology, but by the consequences of one's deeds.
Deeds with positive consequences.
THAT'S where it counts.
Corso312
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UncleBuck
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there is no such thing as free healthcare.
but every other wealthy country pays less than we do, covers all of their citizens, and gets better results.
sorry if you don't like facts and whatnot.
Dogenzengi
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So your GF worked under the table?..paid no taxes and mean old ACA put a stop to it?..and I'm supposed to have feelz for his how?
You prefer the old way of hiding your taxable cash..?..I'll bet you do.
Plus you are retarded if you need to go to the doctor for a cold..a cold is viral therefore nothing can be done other than treating symptoms..OTC works well for this.
A touching story however you and your dad performed a little redistribution scheme of your own..nice!
Get your employees health insurance instead of relying on 'we the people' to pick up the tab.
Also had the person with cancer had preventative care he MAY have faired better than the stage 3 or 4 he's dealing with now.
Rob Roy
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You do seem to have a problem leaving people alone. Was it trauma from a childhood encounter that has caused you to be such a control freak?
Could have been the pedophiles..they were pretty rampant back then.
Rob Roy
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Rob Roy
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Your specious utilitarian arguments do not address the fact that government does force, coerce and place people under duress, in the Obamacare scheme.
Why do you think some people can own other people ? What do you like about that?
Well you DID walk right into that one..I just couldn't resist..I'm feeling particularly like an evil witch this morning.
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Rob Roy
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You use the term "we" in the most foul and collective way.
An aggregate of people held together by force is not a "we" in a unified and peaceful sense. It NEVER can be.
Wouldn't it be better if you decided how to run your life and others did the same, "Mr. I know what's best for other people" and I'm willing to use rapists tactics to enable it ?
I'm sorry you like rapist tactics and whatnot so much.
Rob Roy
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UncleBuck
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it's against the law to let people die, especially when they are begging to be kept alive despite their inability to afford such care.
such will be the case with you.
and i do not look forward to the day where the rest of the healthy and insured like me will have to pay extra because geriatric moochers like yourself thought you were invincible.
UncleBuck
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i'm using that pronoun to describe how much extra the insured and healthy pay to take care of indigent old mooches like yourself.
so cool your shit, pedo. you weren't even included in that "we".
if i was inclined to compare everything in the world to slavery and rape, as you so clearly love to do, then i would describe your mooching as a form of rape.
instead i will just call it what it is, without all the hyperbole. you are a mooch.