kmog33
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No, if you run 110v gauge wire on 240v it will burn out, melt and/or cause an electrical fire.
Try plugging a 240v ballast into a 240v socket with a 110v cord. It's a little scary lol.
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Try plugging a 240v ballast into a 240v socket with a 110v cord. It's a little scary lol.
coughphee.connoiseur
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Not at all trying to be fresh, excuse my ignorance as well but i have 240v rated cords, thats mainly all i have. But i just don't see how to daisy chain only using this cord because the female input for the lamp is 120v only it seems like.
Rahz
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The outlet on the lamp is 15a 250v rated and mates with a c14 plug.
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/cable-assemblies/power-line-cables/1573035?k=c13+c14&pv63=166&pv63=505&pv63=434&pv66=3&FV=fff40018,fff800ab&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/cable-assemblies/power-line-cables/1573035?k=c13+c14&pv63=166&pv63=505&pv63=434&pv66=3&FV=fff40018,fff800ab&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
Greengenes707
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Go universal and not have to use any special cords. Save yourself and you users a couple bucks and a headache.
http://media.extron.com/download/files/userman/68-1638-01_E_Universal_AC_Outlet.pdf
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Universal-Electrical-Receptacle-Types-Electrical-Extension_60254030646.html?spm=a2700.7724857.29.100.f8YKjz
Someone could use one of these to use 240v cords for the meantime.
http://www.amazon.com/Insten-Universal-Travel-Charger-Adapter/dp/B000YN01X4
Merkin Donor
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Wouldn't current rating be the issue?
Rahz
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It depends on what's being powered and wire gauge can vary independent of the voltage rating. A typical 18 gauge 120v cord will be able to handle 1200 watts. Using less than 1200 watts, the issue is the voltage rating if it's being used on a 240v hookup. Connector cables are cheap, be safe and get proper equipment if hooking up to a 240v source.
Merkin Donor
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Merkin Donor
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The only difference between these two cords is the color and the plug ends. The 240v cord will only have 120v on each conductor just like the 120v one.
coughphee.connoiseur
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Well thank you to all of you for your help, great links and info.
Rahz
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The difference is the jacket. I know that cord manufacturers generally underrate by 50% for safety. That may be why you are seeing the 300v ratings in your link and why it's feasible to use 125 volt cables on a 240v power source. In theory it can work, but there's a reason they are rated the way they are at the end product level. My understanding is that over voltage doesn't heat the wire directly but causes the current to jump through the jacket which could cause a fire. Maybe @kmog33 can elaborate on what happened with his ballast.
Merkin Donor
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They both have the same jacket (SJTW), the 240v shows a 3250 watt which is simply the nature of 240v vs 120v (2x watts - 2 legs)
Greengenes707
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120v and 240v power cords are the same except for the plug. And that reason has nothing to do with the powercords...it's so you don't fry electronics only meant for one fixed voltage. Such as a fan or any voltage driven devices. The voltage rating of each wires insulation is usually 300v. Then you have the conduit insulation that holds all 3 together usually good for another 600v.
The cables in the powercords are all the same...simple wire. Then the plug is all that differs. Usually 18awg for standard electronics. 14-16 is common on ballast cords.
Many times 120v powercords come with thicker wire to handle the higher amperage associated with running 120v. 240v only has to handle half the voltage per leg so neither is ever handling more than 120v on any leg. But 120v forces all the amperage up one leg...while 240v gets split to each leg.
The cables in the powercords are all the same...simple wire. Then the plug is all that differs. Usually 18awg for standard electronics. 14-16 is common on ballast cords.
Many times 120v powercords come with thicker wire to handle the higher amperage associated with running 120v. 240v only has to handle half the voltage per leg so neither is ever handling more than 120v on any leg. But 120v forces all the amperage up one leg...while 240v gets split to each leg.
Merkin Donor
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Correct, Greengenes did a much better job of explaining things than I did. So as long as the gauge matches the amp draw of the equipment you will be fine. . If you open up any number of things (mini-splits for example ) that operate on 240v volts you will see wire as small as 18awg that has 240v running through it but just at very low amperage. And like Greengenes said the main reason for different plug ends is so you don't let the smoke out of things. And I apologize because I was doing a piss poor job of explaining things.
coughphee.connoiseur
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Whats your strain if you don't mind sharing?
dubekoms
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Just some c99 from female seeds and Dr.krippling incredible bulk.
SoOLED
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I'm finishing up fabrication, drilled and tapped almost 800 holes in the last couple days and almost ready to start assembling a batch of 32 lamps, all 2100 series except for 8 T4-1750s. They'll start showing up Friday and will carry on into the first of next week at which point I will start another batch.
Makes me hopeful I will be able to focus exclusively on this job soonTasty has become my priority and as long as they continue to sell I will keep producing larger batches and find new ways to expedite the process.
ganjamystic
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lol
nfhiggs
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Not really 240V operates at less current for the same power output.