GroErr Grows...

[Mineralz]

Camshot of the going to be over-filled flower room - lol Those 3 new one's by the door are going to fill more than half the room, 3.5 x 4.5' or so when they finish stretching and~ 4.5' high. I'll move them down to the back when the 3gal's finish and swap the lights around. Those will give those Tasty LED's a challenge, could be good if they're up for it

Tagged them to show what's going on in there:
View attachment 3665961

Cheers

Looking good Gro. I'm prolly gonna end up settling with 3g fabric pots now that i'm thinking on it. You get some decent sized plants with those and I could stack them in my 4x4 like 3 rows of 3 or something...ramble ramble. Nice job with the crossing. Blue Ripper x Fireballs = Blue Balls?

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Looks good Gro, what size is that room?

I need to start framing stuff out soon for a flower room and a veg room and leave the tent for clones and moms.........

 

[Bbcchance]

Looking good Gro. I'm prolly gonna end up settling with 3g fabric pots now that i'm thinking on it. You get some decent sized plants with those and I could stack them in my 4x4 like 3 rows of 3 or something...ramble ramble. Nice job with the crossing. Blue Ripper x Fireballs = Blue Balls?

I use the 3 gallon fabric pots and like them a lot, last time I went to get some they had some 5 gallon talls with the same footprint as the 3 gallons, I grabbed a few of those up too, thought I could run indicia doms with sativa doms and help keep a more even canopy that way( in theory anyways lol)

 

[Mineralz]

I use the 3 gallon fabric pots and like them a lot, last time I went to get some they had some 5 gallon talls with the same footprint as the 3 gallons, I grabbed a few of those up too, thought I could run indicia doms with sativa doms and help keep a more even canopy that way( in theory anyways lol)

Yea I had similar thoughts. I think it would be easier to manage the perpetual approach also. I dont have alot of room heighth-wise so I always lst/supercrop every plant and even then I still get some that stretch 3-4x. Trying to run smaller plants but more of them...at least for a bit What size room/tent do you have again? How many do you run at once comfortably?

 

[GroErr]

Looking good Gro. I'm prolly gonna end up settling with 3g fabric pots now that i'm thinking on it. You get some decent sized plants with those and I could stack them in my 4x4 like 3 rows of 3 or something...ramble ramble. Nice job with the crossing. Blue Ripper x Fireballs = Blue Balls?

Cheers Mineralz, the 3gal fabric pots can grow some nice sized plants. Have to water them more, I'm at every other day with those right now, but they're decent size plants. For the SOG you could swing 9x 3gal in a 4x4', with clones you'd fill that space with bud I think someone named those Ball Breakers - lol

 

[GroErr]

Looks good Gro, what size is that room?

I need to start framing stuff out soon for a flower room and a veg room and leave the tent for clones and moms.........

Thanks, that flower room is 4'W x 9.5'L x7.5'H, I posted the build for that room from start to finish, there's a link on page 1 of this thread. I started out with what is now my veg cabinet for clones and seedlings and kept adding from there.

 

[Evil-Mobo]

Thanks, that flower room is 4'W x 9.5'L x7.5'H, I posted the build for that room from start to finish, there's a link on page 1 of this thread. I started out with what is now my veg cabinet for clones and seedlings and kept adding from there.

Awesome I will go look for that now, I need to start framing out some stuff and have not done that before.

 

[Bbcchance]

Yea I had similar thoughts. I think it would be easier to manage the perpetual approach also. I dont have alot of room heighth-wise so I always lst/supercrop every plant and even then I still get some that stretch 3-4x. Trying to run smaller plants but more of them...at least for a bit What size room/tent do you have again? How many do you run at once comfortably?

I try not to run more than 6 at a time I use a 2x4x5 for veg and have a 2 car garage for flower, this run however went a little timing crazy and I didn't get the garage ready in time so I'm wrestleing them through flower in the veg tent, it's ridiculous looking really, I'll end up with more hash than bud off this round I think

 

[GroErr]

I try not to run more than 6 at a time I use a 2x4x5 for veg and have a 2 car garage for flower, this run however went a little timing crazy and I didn't get the garage ready in time so I'm wrestleing them through flower in the veg tent, it's ridiculous looking really, I'll end up with more hash than bud off this round I think

Wholly crap, they must be touching the lights in there. My veg tent is 2x4x5', can't imagine trying to flower in there, those 3x 5gal's I just put into flowering were filling that tent wall-to-wall. Hope you get the garage setup soon!

 

[GroErr]

Awesome I will go look for that now, I need to start framing out some stuff and have not done that before.

That room build was a little over the top, I think it ended up around $1,100 all-in but you might grab some ideas to get something going, good luck!

 

[Evil-Mobo]

That room build was a little over the top, I think it ended up around $1,100 all-in but you might grab some ideas to get something going, good luck!

Hell of a build out man yeah my electrical won't be as complicated but good guide. I don't need to do a false floor either. Let's see this will be a big project for me but needs to get done soon.

 

[Bbcchance]

Wholly crap, they must be touching the lights in there. My veg tent is 2x4x5', can't imagine trying to flower in there, those 3x 5gal's I just put into flowering were filling that tent wall-to-wall. Hope you get the garage setup soon!

Lol, unfortunately at 5 1/2 weeks into flower I'm kinda stuck there for now, I managed to somehow get 3 sativa Dom pineapple chunks, 1 samsara holy grail 69(haze) a white widow and a 12/12 from seed cheese to stay at 30" throughout stretch, main issue is light can't break my suprisingly level canopy to get the lowers, tops look great! Lowers are fucked, and everything is touching so I'm expecting an early chop on a couple to try to avoid mold or rot(fingers crossed)

 

[GroErr]

Lol, unfortunately at 5 1/2 weeks into flower I'm kinda stuck there for now, I managed to somehow get 3 sativa Dom pineapple chunks, 1 samsara holy grail 69(haze) a white widow and a 12/12 from seed cheese to stay at 30" throughout stretch, main issue is light can't break my suprisingly level canopy to get the lowers, tops look great! Lowers are fucked, and everything is touching so I'm expecting an early chop on a couple to try to avoid mold or rot(fingers crossed)View attachment 3666316

Hey they look in much better shape than I was thinking, pretty even canopy considering the space! Trying to keep air flowing below must be a bitch though. Good luck, looks like you'll finish them in there, at least they won't grow higher at this point

 

[Javadog]

I appreciated the annotated photo Gro.

The 1 branch X BR Male BX, front left, has pretty structure.

JD

 

[GroErr]

I appreciated the annotated photo Gro.

The 1 branch X BR Male BX, front left, has pretty structure.

JD

Cheers JD, that's a great JTR pheno, nice structure. It's the female that started up the Blue Ripper cross

 

[Javadog]

Ooh, I have wanted to find one of those for a while now.

I typically get two beans each of each of a slew of TGA, and other regular,
breeds that I get online, and I just never got a female of the JTR, tho I tried
on two different occasions.

Not to worry though, as I got a great male once and made an offspring
that I am about to get to sample for the first time Jack The Cleaner I call it
and it has that "Lemon Pledge" thing I wanted. :0)

And, glutton for punishment that I am, I checked and confirmed that I
got two more JTR beans in the last Attitude order.

Take care,

JD

 

[GroErr]

Ooh, I have wanted to find one of those for a while now.

I typically get two beans each of each of a slew of TGA, and other regular,
breeds that I get online, and I just never got a female of the JTR, tho I tried
on two different occasions.

Not to worry though, as I got a great male once and made an offspring
that I am about to get to sample for the first time Jack The Cleaner I call it
and it has that "Lemon Pledge" thing I wanted. :0)

And, glutton for punishment that I am, I checked and confirmed that I
got two more JTR beans in the last Attitude order.

Take care,

JD

Those 2 freebies are your lucky beans I bought a pack on sale a couple of months ago, only reason I bought the pack was to see if I can get a nice male - lol

 

[GroErr]

Day 36 & Day 7 in the flower room. All are good other than 1x Blue Ripper 1 3gal that has something going on with the root system, hasn't looked good ever since it flipped. It's sitting middle-right in the second pic. Tried flushing it to see if it comes back, otherwise I may pull it early and hash it.

The others are doing well but not seeing any real difference with this negative DIF I'm trying, other than more watering and the plants aren't praying like they normally do. The Blue Ripper 2 pheno normally has the leaves almost straight up. instead they're all laying out almost straight out at 90 degrees or so. Did some more reading on negative DIF and found a reference to this which seems to point to the fact they're almost constantly transpiring. Doesn't seem like a negative issue but not seeing much so far in benefits either. I also read that it could extend the flowering times which makes a bit of sense based on the last round which had some phenos taking as long as 10 weeks to finish (I had started running negative DIF about 2 weeks into that round). Will be interesting to see how these finish and if they hold their normal ~8 week cycle time.

One difference under the COBs has been the stretch but it could be a combination of the COBs and negative dif. Typically when I put the plants into 12/12 under CMH they'll start stretching within 2-3 days and explode around day 5-7. Under the COBs they didn't do much until they hit 4-5 days, then started to stretch but no explosion like they normally do. The 5gal's are at 7 days so I should see significant stretch this week. Another factor affecting stretch is negative DIF so I'll have to run them under normal lights-off temps to determine whether it's the COBs or negative DIF reducing the stretch. Another article I read pointed to less stretch with even or negative DIF so it could be a combo of both factors affecting it. Too many variables to tell until I run them under normal lights-off temps.

Regardless, the plants under the COBs are looking good and just starting to throw out hairs, should see some bud action by next weekend. Coverage is good and no issues, losing some lower/center leaves that aren't getting much light but that's normal and I wait to clean them up under the canopy until around week 2.

Group:




JTR at Day 36, 2+ years I've been running this one and it's still one of my favourites strains/phenos, smelling like fresh squeezed lemons right now



Cheers

 

[Bbcchance]

Day 36 & Day 7 in the flower room. All are good other than 1x Blue Ripper 1 3gal that has something going on with the root system, hasn't looked good ever since it flipped. It's sitting middle-right in the second pic. Tried flushing it to see if it comes back, otherwise I may pull it early and hash it.

The others are doing well but not seeing any real difference with this negative DIF I'm trying, other than more watering and the plants aren't praying like they normally do. The Blue Ripper 2 pheno normally has the leaves almost straight up. instead they're all laying out almost straight out at 90 degrees or so. Did some more reading on negative DIF and found a reference to this which seems to point to the fact they're almost constantly transpiring. Doesn't seem like a negative issue but not seeing much so far in benefits either. I also read that it could extend the flowering times which makes a bit of sense based on the last round which had some phenos taking as long as 10 weeks to finish (I had started running negative DIF about 2 weeks into that round). Will be interesting to see how these finish and if they hold their normal ~8 week cycle time.

One difference under the COBs has been the stretch but it could be a combination of the COBs and negative dif. Typically when I put the plants into 12/12 under CMH they'll start stretching within 2-3 days and explode around day 5-7. Under the COBs they didn't do much until they hit 4-5 days, then started to stretch but no explosion like they normally do. The 5gal's are at 7 days so I should see significant stretch this week. Another factor affecting stretch is negative DIF so I'll have to run them under normal lights-off temps to determine whether it's the COBs or negative DIF reducing the stretch. Another article I read pointed to less stretch with even or negative DIF so it could be a combo of both factors affecting it. Too many variables to tell until I run them under normal lights-off temps.

Regardless, the plants under the COBs are looking good and just starting to throw out hairs, should see some bud action by next weekend. Coverage is good and no issues, losing some lower/center leaves that aren't getting much light but that's normal and I wait to clean them up under the canopy until around week 2.

Group:

View attachment 3670563
View attachment 3670565

JTR at Day 36, 2+ years I've been running this one and it's still one of my favourites strains/phenos, smelling like fresh squeezed lemons right now

View attachment 3670566

Cheers

This round I didn't have temps ready in my garage flower area, damn weather wouldn't cooperate with me lol, so I kinda got stuck flowering in my 2x4x5 after a 9 week veg, in order to keep them shorter I intentionally kept day and night temps near even,( warmer at lights out on some days) it actually worked quite well

 

[GroErr]

This round I didn't have temps ready in my garage flower area, damn weather wouldn't cooperate with me lol, so I kinda got stuck flowering in my 2x4x5 after a 9 week veg, in order to keep them shorter I intentionally kept day and night temps near even,( warmer at lights out on some days) it actually worked quite well

Yeah, read a couple of references to that reduced stretch using negative DIF. Looks like a good way to manage stretch if that's what you're looking for. When I bring them in from the blurple veg LED's, the plants are typically very tight/short node structure so I like some stretch to open them up. Very manageable though if you want stretch and this reduces stretch you could keep them at the normal 10-15F lights out/lights on difference for a couple of weeks then switch to negative DIF after they stretch out. Cheers.

Edit: Not a terrible thing this round for those 3x 5gal's, they could have gotten out of hand under CMH and normal temp differences between lights on/off.