GoRealUhGro
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Lol..???...Maine? ??...ur further up than I am...my weather looks Purdy good for a bit..cold at nights....I literally just put some plants in 5 gal pots so now I'ma have trouble putting them up at nigjy
is it too early to start growing right now
- Thread starter Mr. Doja
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trippnface
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some bullshit ; i have march 20th seed starts tryng to flower already.... well past 13 hours of light; fucking cookies and all the indoor breeding obviously fucked with the photoperiod. i should be able to pop seeds march 20th without autoflowering EASY; im pissed
Larry {the} Gardener
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You are fine as far as light goes. Those nightly lows are a bitch though. I just picked a town at random, Sanford, and I see lots of 28, 29 and 30F nights for the coming week. My low for the next 10 days is 61F.pi
pine tree state
Larry {the} Gardener
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I went through it too. I topped everything and just waited for the days to get longer. Most everything seems to be growing out of it, or got ate by the deer.
Here is one of my CP1's that looked like it was wanting to early flower. I topped it when I transplanted, and it has grown out of it.
trippnface
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I went through it too. I topped everything and just waited for the days to get longer. Most everything seems to be growing out of it, or got ate by the deer.
Here is one of my CP1's that looked like it was wanting to early flower. I topped it when I transplanted, and it has grown out of it.
definitely considering it. i have a t 5 i might keep vegging them under with more light for a few more weeks :/ . was not expecting this lol; i am hoping they will reveg quick; but if not they will get more light... i have some more starts on april 1st that i HOPE will have no issues... crazy.
* this has to be the result of some shitty breeding; march 20th seed starts flowering at 13 plus hours of light is straight bunk
trippnface
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well; i guess i am derptarded ..... thought i already figured this shit out ! found some info:
" it will stop flowering and start to veg again until your daylight returns to under 14 hours!
you should not put your vegging plants outdoors until you have more than 14 hours of daylight!!!
in n.c. you should not put them out until may 15th at the earliest!
putting them out in april has now set you back instead of your plants gaining anything!
for example: on april 8th in greensboro n.c. there was 12.51 hours of daylight!!
april 9th in rocky mount n.c. there was 12.53 hours of daylight!!
this is why your plant started flowering!
i put mine out today at 14.20 hrs of daylight!!! "
"Tonyclifton hit the nail on the head. Daylength. Cannabis flowers at 14 hrs of light and under and your outdoor daylength is just now suitable to transplant plants outdoors. At 35n, days are just now long enough so that the plants wont attempt to flower and May 10th is about the proper planting time. Growers at 40n shouldnt plant until about may 20 simply because day length isnt long enough for the plants to remain in veg. Your plants will probably reveg, but you are likely to find numerous seeds/nanners and they will be late to flower in the fall.
You have another contributing problem. The age of your plants. A 3 week old seedling would have faired far better than a 60 day old plant. The older and more mature the plant, the greater the shock and reaction to daylength issues. Ive saw it many times before i quit trying to pregrow.
Its my view that outdoor growers dont help themselves one bit by starting early. "
*so my conclusion is either start early april and see if you are good naturally; or start earlier if wanted and use supp lighting until daylight spectrum exceeds 14 00 hour of light.
* and of course; these issues can be avoided with running known genetics instead of pheno hunting; so definitely my fault in part.. lol
" it will stop flowering and start to veg again until your daylight returns to under 14 hours!
you should not put your vegging plants outdoors until you have more than 14 hours of daylight!!!
in n.c. you should not put them out until may 15th at the earliest!
putting them out in april has now set you back instead of your plants gaining anything!
for example: on april 8th in greensboro n.c. there was 12.51 hours of daylight!!
april 9th in rocky mount n.c. there was 12.53 hours of daylight!!
this is why your plant started flowering!
i put mine out today at 14.20 hrs of daylight!!! "
"Tonyclifton hit the nail on the head. Daylength. Cannabis flowers at 14 hrs of light and under and your outdoor daylength is just now suitable to transplant plants outdoors. At 35n, days are just now long enough so that the plants wont attempt to flower and May 10th is about the proper planting time. Growers at 40n shouldnt plant until about may 20 simply because day length isnt long enough for the plants to remain in veg. Your plants will probably reveg, but you are likely to find numerous seeds/nanners and they will be late to flower in the fall.
You have another contributing problem. The age of your plants. A 3 week old seedling would have faired far better than a 60 day old plant. The older and more mature the plant, the greater the shock and reaction to daylength issues. Ive saw it many times before i quit trying to pregrow.
Its my view that outdoor growers dont help themselves one bit by starting early. "
*so my conclusion is either start early april and see if you are good naturally; or start earlier if wanted and use supp lighting until daylight spectrum exceeds 14 00 hour of light.
* and of course; these issues can be avoided with running known genetics instead of pheno hunting; so definitely my fault in part.. lol
Larry {the} Gardener
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Not all of my early flower plants grew out of it. This BST1 in the GN patch has balls. I topped it, and will wait to see if it will re-veg. I want to keep some males for breeding, or I would have killed him this morning.
ganga gurl420
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You dont adjust your lighting cycle before you put them out?
Mr420man
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Me, not personally. They've been outside a few days now and they are loving it. No shock at all
ganga gurl420
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Its not a shock thing. Its about the fact that when ur running 24 hour of light a day then u put them outside they will start trying to go into flower. Then the days get longer then they go back into veg...then back into flower in fall. It makes plants produce less quality and lower yields.
trippnface
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interesting; so the jump of 16 hours of light down to 14 + ( at the end of may) is ok ; simply because the light spectrum is still exceeding 14 hours of light?I go 16-8 for 2 months,then plant out side end of may,no problem never fails
sounds relieving ; i am trippn on putting em out at 14 00 mid may; from like 14 30 lol. guess i should be ok!
** or drop my light to 14 00 as well first... by your statement though it seems i would be ok.
IF my genetics are stable enough i hope!
Mr420man
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I feel like slowly lowering light from 24/0 to 14 hours would be more likely to engage flowering than putting it out at 14 and then it noticing the days getting longer. This strain doesn't flower at 14. So that's why I myself am safe.
GoRealUhGro
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I started my plants under 14 on and 10 off...I eventually added 30 min cause balls came out on one plant but the rest are fine...they have been outside for weeks now and they haven't had any problem...I think if any light at all is out it helps prevent the "dark period"...cause indoor Growers are so crazy about not letting any light in at all so that pre morning light has to help...but I truly believe if u are running g 16 hrs on and put them out into 14 hrs they are gonna start to flower...try to keep your timer matching when the sun comes up and we it goes down...add time accordingly...that way you have no problems...My plants were the best iv ever started under the 14 on 10 off....I recently had a cal problem but that was my own fault...but matching the sun is the only way to go unless u know almost exactly when ur going to put them out and keep the timer adjusted to the amount of daylight for that particular day
thumper60
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I have close to 15 hr of visable light now.end of may I have 16
trippnface
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damn dude way more light than me!I have close to 15 hr of visable light now.end of may I have 16
well i am putting out at 14 hour i will report back with result..., my area never gets more than 14 30
very suprised my march starts tried to flower..
trippnface
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cant recall if i already posted this info or not but this guy on ICMag researched photospectrums pretty hard
"I keep my outdoor mother plants on 15.5. I do this to prevent the buildup of auxins and other compounds produced within the plant that repress flowering. Once cuttings are taken,they are rooted under 24 hrs but once removed from the cloner and placed in soil, the lighting is kept at 14.5, which generally mimics outdoor daylenght.
I have done side by side grows using clones from a mother that both it and the clones were kept under 18/6 and another group kept as indicated above under 14.5. Without exception, the 14.5 clones finish up to 10 days sooner than the clones kept under 18/ 6. The same effect is seen when clones are taken from a mother that overwintered indoors. Ive found those clones to finish later than clones taken from a plant that was started in the spring and didnt overwinter indoors under artificial lighting.
Good luck with whatever you end up doing."
Larry {the} Gardener
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I'm at 13h 22s/14h 13 m today here in NW Flrodia.I have close to 15 hr of visable light now.end of may I have 16
I have always had trouble wrapping my mind around the fact the days are longer to the north. Your rate of increase in the spring {and decrease in the fall} is much greater than mine. I'm down to gaining just 1 minute 32 seconds a day.
Sanford Me {random city in Maine} is at 14h 10m/15h 13m and gaining 2m 32s a day.
So if it wasn't for the cold, you could go outside with your plants sooner than I could.
trippnface
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same..... after reading so many threads about nor cal season i guess i forgot i am not in nor cal lol.
Iwannagethigh780
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Mine peak at 17h 2 mins June 20thI have close to 15 hr of visable light now.end of may I have 16