I gotta say... JT needs some enligtenment!

VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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"Decriminalization, as this member proposes, actually gives a legal stream of income to criminal organizations," Trudeau said at the time. "That's not what anyone wants in this country."

WTF? Complete bullshit. How would decriminalizing give bm growers and sellers a legal income stream? It's not like there's going to be a sudden surge of new pot smokers once the penalty is a fine rather than a record. lowering the penalties for possession doesn't suddenly make the bm legal, it just frees up resources to allow cops to focus on organized crime. I'll tell ya what else no one wants in this country, Justin, and that's criminal records for our kids. I smell a class action from everybody busted for possession between now and legal..."justifiable in a free and democratic society"...where's the justification? How fucking hard would it be to issue a directive to provincial justice minister's and the RCMP to stop laying charges for under an oz?
The problem with Mulcair, he would have decriminalized and not gone any further. Without a legal source, nothing changes.Good for him for continuing to call them out, though
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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that's my question-how is MORE going to go to the BM?? isn't there a lot now??
so they'll give you a ticket instead of a criminal record...that'll lead to the end of the world...oh yeah, they're going to legalize it...Ok now i'm really confused-won't that put more in the BM?

the logic they use really blows my mind. when you get elected, do they take out your brain? how do these people get so out of touch?
 
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gb123

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I never thought much of him but Holy.... Who's informing him? :?
He's making excuses for why they are involved in BM sales collecting taxes from imports? lol
This is Classic shit man.
Only in Canada eh!?!?!
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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doingdishes said:
the logic they use really blows my mind. when you get elected, do they take out your brain? how do these people get so out of touch?
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Sadly what he is doing is "creating a false flag". He is creating a "problem, a public safety risk, a rallying point against evil. Organized crime.... That is step one.
Step two will be in the form of "strict new measures". Undoubtedly these will require a further erosion of Canadians rights (fuck the charter 101). The governments actions will be for our own good - trust them - they have never lied before, right ?
Step three will be the photo op with Justin, as he saves the day....

This thing trudeau calls legalization is going to be the NEW PROHABITION - THEN YOU WILL REALLY SEE HOW OUT OF TOUCH THOSE FOOLS ARE. ( I hope I am wrong...)
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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i hope u wrong too..

JT knows whats up he is very up on everything..but he is elected now

JT..let every adult be allowed to grow their own or you pander to organized crime..

but you know that already....
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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jafro daweedhound said:
This thing trudeau calls legalization is going to be the NEW PROHABITION - THEN YOU WILL REALLY SEE HOW OUT OF TOUCH THOSE FOOLS ARE. ( I hope I am wrong...)
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You are starting to sound like the Dizzy troll. The Libs aren't 'creating' a problem or a false flag. Organized crime has been involved in mj for decades and one of the objectives of legalization is to remove that element.

Legalization and prohibition are opposites, so 'new prohibition' or 'prohibition 2.0' make absolutely no sense, The only ones that seem to have a problem with weed having the same controls as alcohol are those who are profiting from it being illegal. Somehow the bm growers thought legalization meant they could continue to operate on the fringe of society. Seems some just aren't ready for legalization that involves being a grownup playing by the same rules as every other business.
Here's a reference...how many people do you know that refer to controls around booze as prohibition? How/why are you convinced weed will be any different.
jafro daweedhound said:
"strict new measures". Undoubtedly these will require a further erosion of Canadians rights (fuck the charter 101)
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Huh? How? What rights are going to be eroded by removing the criminal penalties for mj use?
They need to do something to stop mj arrests in the meantime, but I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest legalization will infringe on my rights any more than legal booze or smokes do. As long as everyone can grow for personal use, which they will, the new marijuana 'prohibition' is going to look a lot like the new booze 'prohibition' ....non-existent.
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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We gotta keep the pressure on. Enough negative publicity will force them to act. mulcair could really help by bringing it up daily. Maybe someone can come up with a website or Facebook page where people can post details of their arrest so we can keep a running count to shame them with. If I could get my useless NDP MP to respond to a constituents' request....
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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VIANARCHRIS said:
Legalization and prohibition are opposites, so 'new prohibition' or 'prohibition 2.0' make absolutely no sense
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What worries me s how they are going about coming up with new rules to make legislation. First the guy in charge has a terrible record for up holding peoples rights. Bill Blair has spent his career arresting people for using cannabis, and that concerns me. I have heard they want a one once limit, that seems restrictive, Justin has said they want to look to WA and OR to see what works there - WA has a five year mandatory minimum for one plant.
Prove it right, exactly. With no public consultation or anything I worry what they are dreaming up for Canada.
Sorry to sound negative...
But I have learned to read between the lines when listening to the governments promises. I guess I have become jaded by the years and some days have trouble suppressing it, for that I apologize.
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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VIANARCHRIS said:
Huh? How? What rights are going to be eroded by removing the criminal penalties for mj use?
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There may be penalties for not buying LP produced cannabis - from a licenced vendor, That would remove peoples rights not to smoke crap. They may say "no personal production" that would infringe on peoples right to grow a plant.
The more time passes and the secrecy surrounding it makes me suspicious.
 
The Hippy

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jafro daweedhound said:
What worries me s how they are going about coming up with new rules to make legislation. First the guy in charge has a terrible record for up holding peoples rights. Bill Blair has spent his career arresting people for using cannabis, and that concerns me. I have heard they want a one once limit, that seems restrictive, Justin has said they want to look to WA and OR to see what works there - WA has a five year mandatory minimum for one plant.
Prove it right, exactly. With no public consultation or anything I worry what they are dreaming up for Canada.
Sorry to sound negative...
But I have learned to read between the lines when listening to the governments promises. I guess I have become jaded by the years and some days have trouble suppressing it, for that I apologize.
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We all know they are trying set up a system to fill their wallets. They care NOTHING for us MJ or MMJ folks. They only care about our money.
Boycott LP's and show em we won't be culled into the pens of injustice and greed.
Yup Jafro...your suspicions are right on.
 
jafro daweedhound

jafro daweedhound

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The Hippy said:
We all know they are trying set up a system to fill their wallets. They care NOTHING for us MJ or MMJ folks. They only care about our money.
Boycott LP's and show em we won't be culled into the pens of injustice and greed.
Yup Jafro...your suspicions are right on.
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Been smoking /growing/ loving herbs for over forty years.... seen all the bullshit and this smells to me... just my opinion.
 
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