A Cannabinerd's Journey

eastcoastmo

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Did the house you got accepted for, fall through? Or did you pull out before because of the well?

That sucks about the yield of the BLR and mendo man, they looked damn good too :(

Hope you can get your clones sorted mate, must be doing your head in!!
 

ThaMagnificent

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Yea bro i messed up. I put them in buckets too soon and started flooding right away. Totally skipped hand watering. I got them under a 6 bulb 4ft flooding every 6hrs with .8ec. I noticed them really recovering the last 2 days so i just jumped the gun.


When do you top and clone?
 

AlphaPhase

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I'll look them up now, but what exactly are DE lights? Replace HPS? Chomping at the bit to get working so I can get my tent setup
I see, double ended. Looks similar to a gavita?

Going to start out vertical and see what I can do with that in addition to my rooftop plants. 20 gallon no tills
Yeah they are similar do gavita, pretty much the same but different brand. They get wicked hot though so you need at least 3' above the plant at all times and they can't be run vertical, but I see people are pulling 3+ lbs a light with them, like holy Jesus!

Man, you're lucky, I want a roof top grow! You're gonna kill it with all that sun :)
 

AlphaPhase

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Did the house you got accepted for, fall through? Or did you pull out before because of the well?

That sucks about the yield of the BLR and mendo man, they looked damn good too :(

Hope you can get your clones sorted mate, must be doing your head in!!
We pulled out of the deal when we were getting inspections together, then they decided to finally disclose the info about the water well that runs dry every year :( we called around well service companies trying our best to get some good news, but they said that area is hard to drill and no guarantee to find water, would be 10000$ minimum if they found water on the first time drilling, and the price just goes up every time if they have to keep drilling :( - it sucks about the yield for sure, the buds are sooooooo dank though, just something went wrong somewhere along, I was thinking about culling them before flower because I could tell some had issues, but decided to just flower them.. But the grow and yield also made me realize I shouldn't flower any plants that have issues from now on and only put healthy vigorous plants in to flower. I have some beautiful monsters I just put into flower earlier in the week and my God I almost forgot how they grow in flower when healthy, just so vibrant and I miss that type of growth so its just a lesson I learned to get any issues sorted out before flower, no matter how long it takes, it'll be worth it to get things back on track. I've treated all my veg plants with some pesticides to rule out bug problems, and will continue to monitor growth from now on so I can finally pin point what's going wrong, sorry for the rant lol
 

AlphaPhase

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Yea bro i messed up. I put them in buckets too soon and started flooding right away. Totally skipped hand watering. I got them under a 6 bulb 4ft flooding every 6hrs with .8ec. I noticed them really recovering the last 2 days so i just jumped the gun.


When do you top and clone?
No biggy bro they'll recover. Little plants don't need too much water at all, they just need to grow roots so they can start eating nutes, once they get some roots and starting to grow nicely, then they can get more watering and all the good stuff :)

I top clones after they are rooted and growing a little bit, let some new growth grow, then when there's about 8 nodes I'll top them, then I'll continue to top them every 10 days or so to create a bush. Seedlings I like to top on the 4th or 5th true node, basically after they have grown 4 sets of leaves
 

fandango

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Thx bro!
They are 3x3x2.5" cubes on top of 4x6x36" slabs. 3 plants per slab.
I'm using basket drip stakes(one per plant), so quite a bit of gph is needed. This particular setup, i'm using 3-585gph ecoplus bottom draw pumps to water 48 sites, run to waste, in 2-4'x8' trays. 3 DE's are the lighting.
It only takes a little less than 60 seconds for runoff to begin coming out the bottoms, so I run it for 2 minutes right when lights come on. I've seen no need to feed them more than the one time per light cycle.
I haven't rocked the slabs in probably about 13 or so years, and I'm liking the results:-)
I just picked up the same set up,as far as the cubes and slabs goes.Where did you slit the bottom slab plastic?
 

eastcoastmo

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We pulled out of the deal when we were getting inspections together, then they decided to finally disclose the info about the water well that runs dry every year :( we called around well service companies trying our best to get some good news, but they said that area is hard to drill and no guarantee to find water, would be 10000$ minimum if they found water on the first time drilling, and the price just goes up every time if they have to keep drilling :( - it sucks about the yield for sure, the buds are sooooooo dank though, just something went wrong somewhere along, I was thinking about culling them before flower because I could tell some had issues, but decided to just flower them.. But the grow and yield also made me realize I shouldn't flower any plants that have issues from now on and only put healthy vigorous plants in to flower. I have some beautiful monsters I just put into flower earlier in the week and my God I almost forgot how they grow in flower when healthy, just so vibrant and I miss that type of growth so its just a lesson I learned to get any issues sorted out before flower, no matter how long it takes, it'll be worth it to get things back on track. I've treated all my veg plants with some pesticides to rule out bug problems, and will continue to monitor growth from now on so I can finally pin point what's going wrong, sorry for the rant lol
Fair enough bro, I wouldn't go through with it too, if the inspections didnt go well. Good on you for trying hey!
I'm sure you'll be back into the big yields again soon bro, sounds like you know whats going on :)
 

Aeroknow

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I just picked up the same set up,as far as the cubes and slabs goes.Where did you slit the bottom slab plastic?
This is the jig I made to cut the 3"x3" holes for the cubes that sit on top of the slabs. On it I marked with a sharpie where I cut the corners on the bottom of slabs. But for the most part, I just eyeball and snip. Just snip with scissors.
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fandango

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We pulled out of the deal when we were getting inspections together, then they decided to finally disclose the info about the water well that runs dry every year :( we called around well service companies trying our best to get some good news, but they said that area is hard to drill and no guarantee to find water, would be 10000$ minimum if they found water on the first time drilling, and the price just goes up every time if they have to keep drilling :( - it sucks about the yield for sure, the buds are sooooooo dank though, just something went wrong somewhere along, I was thinking about culling them before flower because I could tell some had issues, but decided to just flower them.. But the grow and yield also made me realize I shouldn't flower any plants that have issues from now on and only put healthy vigorous plants in to flower. I have some beautiful monsters I just put into flower earlier in the week and my God I almost forgot how they grow in flower when healthy, just so vibrant and I miss that type of growth so its just a lesson I learned to get any issues sorted out before flower, no matter how long it takes, it'll be worth it to get things back on track. I've treated all my veg plants with some pesticides to rule out bug problems, and will continue to monitor growth from now on so I can finally pin point what's going wrong, sorry for the rant lol
The counter guy at Kirks Hydro was telling me he runs low on water in the summer,1 load of water from a water truck cost him 300 bucks.
 

AlphaPhase

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Fair enough bro, I wouldn't go through with it too, if the inspections didnt go well. Good on you for trying hey!
I'm sure you'll be back into the big yields again soon bro, sounds like you know whats going on :)
It's a bummer but life always throws curve balls so it's OK :) and thanks bro, I really do think I got things figured out now, I know it's probably too early to say, but I talked to @Aeroknow and he is very knowledgeable about rockwool. We think it's a watering issue (story of my life lol). We think I haven't been watering with enough water when it's time to water. I measured some runoff of some clones I threw out and it was 1500ppm+, so I wasn't flushing out the nutes enough and was getting build up. I watered heavily last night though and everything already looks better! New growth galore :)
 

AlphaPhase

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This is the jig I made to cut the 3"x3" holes for the cubes that sit on top of the slabs. On it I marked with a sharpie where I cut the corners on the bottom of slabs. But for the most part, I just eyeball and snip. Just snip with scissors.
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What's your slab gurney look like? I may try slabs when I move as we talked about, not sure yet but they seem legit :) if I can get this 3x2 cube on hydroton figured out I'll probably stick with that but if I keep running into issues it'll be slabs fo sho
 

AlphaPhase

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The counter guy at Kirks Hydro was telling me he runs low on water in the summer,1 load of water from a water truck cost him 300 bucks.
I believe it, there's a lot of low yielding wells where I am, in the valley it seems to be good though but up higher many go dry. My estimate for water delivery to the house I wanted was only $140, but that's for 3000 gallons, I'd use that every month so I definitely don't want an extra bill that high, and especially if I have a well. The perks of a well is free water! Lol. I just wouldn't want to deal with water delivery right by where I'd be growing trees, it would just make me paranoid. I know 140$ isn't a month in the long run, but I'm really a penny pincher and I save as much as I can, I hate unneeded expenses
 

AlphaPhase

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So I got some sunset sherbert x gg4 beans today, for now they'll be called gluebert lol. I'm gonna pop a couple today and 1 pet cemetery. Going to see if I can nail the germination in rockwool and get them vegging proper before I pop more, so if something bad happens I don't kill them all lol.
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Here's some sweet new vibrant vigorous hydro growth Ive long missed on some clones since I douched them with lots of water yesterday :) fingers crossed the rockwool experiment heads in the right direction now
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eastcoastmo

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Life does throw a lot of curveballs hey, had quite a few recently myself, it's how we get up and keep going that makes us stronger :)
I'm sure with Aero helping you out, you'll have the rockwool method sorted in no time!! Good work with the glubert too, sounds like a pretty killer strain!!
 

AlphaPhase

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Life does throw a lot of curveballs hey, had quite a few recently myself, it's how we get up and keep going that makes us stronger :)
I'm sure with Aero helping you out, you'll have the rockwool method sorted in no time!! Good work with the glubert too, sounds like a pretty killer strain!!
You got that right brother, I hope your curve balls were hit out of the park and are gone! Aeroknow definitely knows a lot about the hydro stuff I don't know much about so it's great to have him help for sure. Basically, anything in a medium indoor for me is foreign lol, I really like medium less growing, with no medium at all, just something to anchor the plants down, so anything more than a 3" net pot of hydroton can give me trouble lol. I wish there was an efficient way to veg and flower with no media but after a couple years of trial and error I think I'll have it compromise with the rockwool :p
 

AlphaPhase

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Here's what I'm all about, Dwc, suspended pots 36 plants per 3.5x3.5 tray and organic outdoor beasts :D one of these days I'll get back on track when I have the space to do things how I want, but until then I'll adapt

These are old pics

My 3x3 sog trays
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3 week old Dwc mamas
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One plant from the 36 plant sog tray (2.5zips)
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Outdoor girl just hitting flower with her hole dug with a backhoe :D
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Some outdoor starters
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Man, I miss it all so much
 

eastcoastmo

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You got that right brother, I hope your curve balls were hit out of the park and are gone! Aeroknow definitely knows a lot about the hydro stuff I don't know much about so it's great to have him help for sure. Basically, anything in a medium indoor for me is foreign lol, I really like medium less growing, with no medium at all, just something to anchor the plants down, so anything more than a 3" net pot of hydroton can give me trouble lol. I wish there was an efficient way to veg and flower with no media but after a couple years of trial and error I think I'll have it compromise with the rockwool :p
Cheers brother, I'm still here so I've done my best to hit em out of the park! Been a really hard slog though and my health has taken a bit of a battering. Whilever the sun shines, I'll keep going :)

Lol, you do it so much better than most bro, it's a pleasure to watch! And Aeroknow definitely knows his stuff, he's a great asset to have mate :)
 

AlphaPhase

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Cheers brother, I'm still here so I've done my best to hit em out of the park! Been a really hard slog though and my health has taken a bit of a battering. Whilever the sun shines, I'll keep going :)

Lol, you do it so much better than most bro, it's a pleasure to watch! And Aeroknow definitely knows his stuff, he's a great asset to have mate :)
Hey bro, we're all here for a reason, I can relate health issues suck! But all I know is every day we get up is a fresh start for a better day and when it gets so bad, then only thing left is getting better :) just remember that after a dark night, there's always a bright day after my man
 

eastcoastmo

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Hey bro, we're all here for a reason, I can relate health issues suck! But all I know is every day we get up is a fresh start for a better day and when it gets so bad, then only thing left is getting better :) just remember that after a dark night, there's always a bright day after my man
Thanks brother, they are some very kind and true words, I really appreciate it :-D
 

Aeroknow

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What's your slab gurney look like? I may try slabs when I move as we talked about, not sure yet but they seem legit :) if I can get this 3x2 cube on hydroton figured out I'll probably stick with that but if I keep running into issues it'll be slabs fo sho
Nothing special, just a piece of plywood the same size as one of the slabs(6"x36") ;-)
 
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