MCRCI claims 6 plant max

TheDizzyBizzy

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But, this is not America. Do you think all these states would be OK with losing their limited plants counts they have now? The American MMJ states were designed with low plants counts from the start. It's gonna be a massive fight if HC tries to reduce plant counts that much. You can't stuff current 100 plant grows down to 6...it's not gonna fly, and prolly a BS rumour to start with. No offence intended to you @bigmac, didn't mean to come off as shooting the messenger. :)
Actually, Washington had massive plant counts and they lost them all because the system was over-run with people growing over the limit and selling for profit, and the state refused to regulate it.

Sound familiar?

People who abused the system in Canada for profit got rich while screwing actual patients out of a chance to grow their own. This was EXACTLY what the Harper conservatives wanted, which is why they never inspected these grows. And then these pieces of shit profiteers dare come info forums like this and talk about 'patients' while they brag about their profits. Fuck them as much as the LPees.
 

bigmanc

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No point in bringing up the discussion. You all think your going to be given dozens of plants and XX lbs of storage and X lbs for possession. MMAR is over and so is the forumula. Some arent understanding its a authorization not a GPD = X plants. Medical approved patients = X plants, possession and storage. Arthritis, epilepsy, headaches, cancer, depression, cat scratch, juicing, hash, smoking, oils. Its all treated the same. A few states you can get authorization to grow up to 99 from your doctor. Im not concerned about plant counts il do what i have to do and as much of it as i want too, i can take care of myself and 3 more years of courts wont exactly bother me. I get the point. The only people that will be screwed are the patients. They will scare us the same way they have been. Let me guess 20k ea for privacy breach too? legalization day after elected? equipment costs when mmar shut down? injunction varys? address changes?

right, sunny days ahead because theres been so many of them :wall:
 

JungleStrikeGuy

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Actually, Washington had massive plant counts and they lost them all because the system was over-run with people growing over the limit and selling for profit, and the state refused to regulate it.

Sound familiar?

People who abused the system in Canada for profit got rich while screwing actual patients out of a chance to grow their own. This was EXACTLY what the Harper conservatives wanted, which is why they never inspected these grows. And then these pieces of shit profiteers dare come info forums like this and talk about 'patients' while they brag about their profits. Fuck them as much as the LPees.
Yep. The pot stars who created spectacles of themselves doing things like putting a few pounds of budder on coals because they're totally not trying to compensate for something treated their ATP / PPL as a 'look at me I'm special' card were definitely a motivation for the MMPR. Calling a spade a spade, these fools basically wanted to parade around like cannabis was legal while under the guise and protection of 'medical'.

Basically the definition of useful idiots.
 

GrowRock

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Blaming other patients for the destruction of the mmar is kind of funny. Yes don't get me wrong there were a few (people) who were not patients and bent the system to work for them.... But majority of the patients in the mmar went about it to be legal to ensure the safety and liberty of there family and themselves. I joined the mmar due to having no other option to access my meds.... I could have started growing illegally but my better half said she wouldn't go for that for the obvious fact that if the pigs ever got wind of it they would kick my door in, traumatize my children, shoot my dogs, take me to jail and foreclose or take my house etc..... It was the fucking money hungry politicans and assholes like Pam m who destroyed the mmar imo
 
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TheDizzyBizzy

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Yep. The pot stars who created spectacles of themselves doing things like putting a few pounds of budder on coals because they're totally not trying to compensate for something treated their ATP / PPL as a 'look at me I'm special' card were definitely a motivation for the MMPR. Calling a spade a spade, these fools basically wanted to parade around like cannabis was legal while under the guise and protection of 'medical'.

Basically the definition of useful idiots.
Harper literally created a system to allow for that kind of idiocy, so they could point and say 'See, this isn't really about medicine". And they walked right into the trap, and their Rock Star crackerjack lawyers got rich on the whole thing.
Blaming other patients for the destruction of the mmar is kind of funny. Yes don't get me wrong there were a few (people) who were not patients and bent the system to work for them.... But majority of the patients in the mmar went about it to be legal to ensure the safety and liberty of there family and themselves. I joined the mmar due to having no other option to access my meds.... I could have started growing illegally but my better half said she wouldn't go for that for the obvious fact that if the pigs ever got wind of it they would kick my door, in traumatize my children, shot my dogs, take me to jail and foreclose or take my house etc..... It was the fucking money hungry politicans and assholes like Pam m who destroyed the mmar imo
Sorry, but you are in the minority. The reality is, the loud professional 'activists' got rich off the MMAR and screwed legit patients like you in the process. People like Pam are not to blame there. If those profiteers using the MMAR to make literally millions a year in had invested even a fraction of that into useful political advocacy (not self-serving 'non profits' that divert the money right back to themselves), we might have some real leverage. But they spent it all on fancy houses, private vineyards in Kelowna (he know who he is if he's reading this) and shitty gangster rims for their shitty wanna be gangster cars.

The actual patients who were just growing for themselves and not making a few (or many) bucks on the side get screwed because of THOSE people.
 

redi jedi

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Harper literally created a system to allow for that kind of idiocy, so they could point and say 'See, this isn't really about medicine". And they walked right into the trap, and their Rock Star crackerjack lawyers got rich on the whole thing.


Sorry, but you are in the minority. The reality is, the loud professional 'activists' got rich off the MMAR and screwed legit patients like you in the process. People like Pam are not to blame there. If those profiteers using the MMAR to make literally millions a year in had invested even a fraction of that into useful political advocacy (not self-serving 'non profits' that divert the money right back to themselves), we might have some real leverage. But they spent it all on fancy houses, private vineyards in Kelowna (he know who he is if he's reading this) and shitty gangster rims for their shitty wanna be gangster cars.

The actual patients who were just growing for themselves and not making a few (or many) bucks on the side get screwed because of THOSE people.
Raw raw raa..angry Diz is here to set the record straight...

Who do you think donated the majority of the funds for the Allard trial?

You sound kinda jelly Diz.
 

doingdishes

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Harper literally created a system to allow for that kind of idiocy, so they could point and say 'See, this isn't really about medicine". And they walked right into the trap, and their Rock Star crackerjack lawyers got rich on the whole thing.


Sorry, but you are in the minority. The reality is, the loud professional 'activists' got rich off the MMAR and screwed legit patients like you in the process. People like Pam are not to blame there. If those profiteers using the MMAR to make literally millions a year in had invested even a fraction of that into useful political advocacy (not self-serving 'non profits' that divert the money right back to themselves), we might have some real leverage. But they spent it all on fancy houses, private vineyards in Kelowna (he know who he is if he's reading this) and shitty gangster rims for their shitty wanna be gangster cars.

The actual patients who were just growing for themselves and not making a few (or many) bucks on the side get screwed because of THOSE people.
who are "those" people? you seem to have a lot of inside information so please share
 

redi jedi

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Harper didn't create shit. If he had it his way, there would have never been a medical system period. HC was forced to create something they didn't want to do. Once they realized people were making money off their creation, they shit canned it for a system that would make them money...tax revenue..its always about the money.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Arthritis, epilepsy, headaches, cancer, depression, cat scratch, juicing, hash, smoking, oils. Its all treated the same.
You do see the flaw in this right? Thats why they even had different categories and the plant count formula in the MMAR. They can always readjust the plant count formula to be less "lenient".

To say everyone gets the same regardless of ailment is not rooted in any kind of logic, and would easily be challenged and won in court. Could you imagine if they treated pharma this way? "Everyone gets the same script and mg/pill dosage regardless of ailment".

Not to mention all the pharmacies now wanting to dispense cannabis. The same rules will have to apply as pharma after all, so no chance there for sure. Especially since its scientifically proven to be less harmful than alcohol or tobacco.
 

nobody important 666

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who are "those" people? you seem to have a lot of inside information so please share
Dont think anyone here is a snitch. But i can tell you from personal experience i know of 5, 3dgs that sell extras to cc and 2 who use their papers to hide behind. That's just my little corner of the world. I would bet money almost everyone on here knows at aleast one that was scamming in one way or another
 

bigmanc

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Ofcourse its flawed. Thats what im trying to bring attention too.
To correct you, b1 and b2 applicants received the same plant counts per G.
As far as im aware of, doctors can allow you up to 99. This is only in the states. As far as ive read there isnt different dosages for illness;s. You said it yourself we will sue and we will win. As you may have noticed that takes 3years+

The only place on this side of the world going by GPD is Canada. Go over to Cali, enjoy the 4x8 canopy or try your luck with 6 plants in Colorado with a maximum yield of 15oz LOL. Doesnt matter the disability or alignment thats what you get.

Washington and Cali were at 99, not due to GPD or illness but because they asked there doctor for a amendment.

Absolutely abuse happened. The DGs, the patients and the doctors. Everyone did what they did. DGs sold extras, patients demanded free meds because of extra product (although some sold it) and doctors took 3k-10k for 40-100gpd then DGs grew 6000sqft greenhouses and supplied the patients *free* meds. It happened and i laugh at anyone who says it didnt.

anyways...im not going to go on and on over this. If my advice and speculation (even though JT himself said they are looking at what the states are doing) goes unappreciated or as trolling spam whatever it is i dont care, be blindsided at the end of it.

Put the rig down, think about it. Did they shut down MMAR because the plant counts were too high or the GPD was too high?

Be interested to see what the legal team does. HC couldnt prove anything in the trial so we have that going for us.

All im saying is, dont be blind sided. Protect yourself and your rights. HC isnt looking out for us. They took us from MMAR to 0.

Il grow my 73 no matter what.
 

TheDizzyBizzy

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Harper didn't create shit. If he had it his way, there would have never been a medical system period. HC was forced to create something they didn't want to do. Once they realized people were making money off their creation, they shit canned it for a system that would make them money...tax revenue..its always about the money.
Man, you people are ignorant. That's not an insult, it's a basic fact. The Harper government was forced to create a system. They created a system that would be ripe for corruption, and let all the rats like you flood the system. You're now upset the actual patients are calling your ilk out for ruining it.

Raw raw raa..angry Diz is here to set the record straight...

Who do you think donated the majority of the funds for the Allard trial?

You sound kinda jelly Diz.
You attack me because you can't attack my points. I'm fine with that.

Phelan ordered those fees be returned, so is the 'Coalition' returning those to the patients and growers?

Oh, no? Like I said, they create 'non profits' and funnel the money back to themselves. Sounds like you think my facts hit a little too close to your home. Got your spinning rims yet lol?
 

TheDizzyBizzy

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who are "those" people? you seem to have a lot of inside information so please share
they are well known to us here, which is why most agree with me and others have made the same comments. It's not my job to hold your hand and force you to drink, youngin'.

Run back to your little corner, the adults are talking.
 

redi jedi

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Man, you people are ignorant. That's not an insult, it's a basic fact. The Harper government was forced to create a system. They created a system that would be ripe for corruption, and let all the rats like you flood the system. You're now upset the actual patients are calling your ilk out for ruining it.



You attack me because you can't attack my points. I'm fine with that.

Phelan ordered those fees be returned, so is the 'Coalition' returning those to the patients and growers?

Oh, no? Like I said, they create 'non profits' and funnel the money back to themselves. Sounds like you think my facts hit a little too close to your home. Got your spinning rims yet lol?
Ripe for corruption? If you consider patients getting free weed and the rest of us getting cheaper weed corruption, than I guess your right. Those patients would have never gotten their medicine if it wasn't for someone with the resources and know how to produce it. IMO the only corruption is prohibition. People like you say the MMAR was ruined by 'scammers' but I fail to see any scams. All I see is the Government and their corporate overlords wanting in on the action.

Admit it Diz, your just angry you couldn't find a DG to provide you with free weed. Cause if you did, I'd bet your opinion would be very different.

I had my spinners long before the MMAR came round! ;)
 
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bigmanc

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I wasnt pointing and claiming corruption. its just known and i think its needed. Human nature will adjust the market and thats what happened, people started treating it more like plant material and prices were at 1100.lb even in Ontario. At that rate everyone makes a little something and patients cant complain at that price. Need to have a open and free market. Let the LPs buy overage @ 2.5$ a gram.
 

TheRealDman

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@dizzy...just stay under your bridge ffs. Nobody listens to your rants except you the other great pessimist on this forum. You're a tool....and a waste of bandwidth. Or, to put in terms you might understand...GFY.
 

gb123

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Dizz
How goes your grow Dear? Figured it all out yet have we?
Had a visit to the shop lately?
You seem to require some tuning.

cheers sweetheart!

Truth is Dizz and weather you believe it or not?
ANYONE CAN DO WHAT THE FUCK THEY PLEASE from here on in!!

Watch and learn sweet one! Watch it GO and GO it will!! in 1000's of different directions.
You or anyone for that matter cant see what this is all about.
Its all good Dizz...dont you worry your little head bout it.
Wake up, smell the daisy's and enjoy the day!
 
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