Best way to combat pythium and root rot in all hydroponic growing methods.

Budley Doright

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Also checked my root matt and it actually grew over my nozzle that shoots water up on to the lid bottom. How the hell it did that is amazing, its like a garden hose nozzle shooting out water every 15 minutes , just used my finger to open up a hole, the matts a solid 2-3" thick lol
 

Tripp2005

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Yea been training but there just going crazy going to pull the tops down once more the front is about the same a few stragglers but the rest are growing about the same rate going to try to get a main cola on the smaller ones and let the big ones just do there thing after this tie down flipped 4 days ago and don't wanna have to prune at all but I'm gonna have to I think
 

Budley Doright

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Hey bud; no Airstone in the cloner, I wish that was the answer, any ways I'm excited to say I should be finishing up my new cloner this evening. I was mentioning wanting to do a cooler cloner, haven't been happy with my bucket lately, lid is cracked, water leaks out around the net pots because the holes are drilled a wee bit too big, only holds 2 gallons of water so it's a pain to keep cool and I think a larger Rez will maintain ph better. Found a matching tote to my vegger with a black lid already and it will fit like a glove next to my vegger in my system and also allow many more plant sites. Hopefully after that and I have a brand new pump I can use I can maintain much more stable numbers in the cloner, I recently added the use of a white board in my space haha! Simple tools make things much easier, now I just write my ec/ppm/ ph down every evening when I check and then I can monitor what it has done throughout the week,

May I ask what advice you didn't agree with from superstoner? Working on finishing up my single rail flower system with the drain at the end that runs into a tube into the side of my res so I don't have to cut any holes in my lid.
My bad! How are you adding DO to the water in the cloner? Any thoughts re the roots plugging the drain? Root blockages have caused me lots of grief but this time I put a silkscreen filter over the drain and not an issue so far, roots are staying where their suppose to :).
 

Budley Doright

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Yea been training but there just going crazy going to pull the tops down once more the front is about the same a few stragglers but the rest are growing about the same rate going to try to get a main cola on the smaller ones and let the big ones just do there thing after this tie down flipped 4 days ago and don't wanna have to prune at all but I'm gonna have to I think
Yes I am wondering if I should have :(. But if this fluff actually fills out I'll have an epic grow, if not I'll have an epic concentrate jar for the summer :). I keep trying to put to many girls in one tray and it bites me every time lol.
 

Tripp2005

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Lol right I did the same thing was like well there 16 sites so why not 16 then they started growing and I went down to 12 now I'm debating taking the AK out and mabey one hg for more room where I have a bunch of clones for next run allready
 

OGMMJ

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My bad! How are you adding DO to the water in the cloner? Any thoughts re the roots plugging the drain? Root blockages have caused me lots of grief but this time I put a silkscreen filter over the drain and not an issue so far, roots are staying where their suppose to :).
Hmmm I guess there is no added do to the water, nothing adding DO to the water in the cooler cloner plans, maybe I should add an Airstone... Do the sprayers not oxygenate the water enough ? Maybe Venturi on my pump?
 

OGMMJ

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Finished my new cloner :clap:

Letting it run 24/7 for a night to with bleach solution see how bad leaks are and to sanitize everything. OnlY made it a 10 site for now but could easily hold 20-25.

Rubber gap filler around the lid so far for sealer. Might have to do more will find out in the morning, if not I'll be transferring everything over to it tomorrow :bigjoint:
 

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Budley Doright

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Hmmm I guess there is no added do to the water, nothing adding DO to the water in the cooler cloner plans, maybe I should add an Airstone... Do the sprayers not oxygenate the water enough ? Maybe Venturi on my pump?
Yes sprayer nozzles will I'm pretty sure. Sorry man I have to pay attention :(, it's an aero cloner, not a bubble cloner, I'm getting old lol. I really try and stay away from airstones, they really did seem to fuck with my ph. Got way more stability once I moved away from them I think.
 

OGMMJ

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This tub is terrible for leaks so far. :wall: Probably going to have to do 1/2in screws in each corner
 

OGMMJ

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This tub is terrible for leaks so far. :wall: Probably going to have to do 1/2in screws in each corner
Clamped it around all 4 sides and still a puddle of water on the floor on one side this morning, granted I always test them with the pump running 24/7 which it will never be.
 

Budley Doright

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Yes it will if your sprayer's hit the lip :(. My mine are higher and I use 180's and get nothing perhaps a foam tape strip on the tote lip
 

OGMMJ

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Yes it will if your sprayer's hit the lip :(. My mine are higher and I use 180's and get nothing perhaps a foam tape strip on the tote lip
You think I should rock the sprayer assembly lower or higher? It currently only sits about an inch or two under the bottom of the net pot but if I can just simply higher it or lower it to prevent leaks that'd be amazing, I fought this in the roughneck and then when I switched to the strongbox on my vegger I didn't need anything either but now this one is leak prone it seems. I'll mess with the sprayer assembly height when I get home, on the other hand it was only like a high of about 82 outside and the high in my flower room was 81 :/ not so good, res temps got up to 74.... Might continue my search into a chiller... Just really strapped for amps and space. I know superstoner doesn't monitor his temps and swears by pondzyme and hydroguard but with my breakout already so early on I don't expect to have that luck, with that being said that's not going to stop me from sending these plants up these seeing as these have already been infected and are just the testers anyway.
 

Budley Doright

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You think I should rock the sprayer assembly lower or higher? It currently only sits about an inch or two under the bottom of the net pot but if I can just simply higher it or lower it to prevent leaks that'd be amazing, I fought this in the roughneck and then when I switched to the strongbox on my vegger I didn't need anything either but now this one is leak prone it seems. I'll mess with the sprayer assembly height when I get home, on the other hand it was only like a high of about 82 outside and the high in my flower room was 81 :/ not so good, res temps got up to 74.... Might continue my search into a chiller... Just really strapped for amps and space. I know superstoner doesn't monitor his temps and swears by pondzyme and hydroguard but with my breakout already so early on I don't expect to have that luck, with that being said that's not going to stop me from sending these plants up these seeing as these have already been infected and are just the testers anyway.
That's one of the things I disagree with lol. I did it for three years and yup grew plants but nothing compared to what they should have been, I got the rot using microbe lift pl, yes a pond microbe lol. So is that you cloner or your growing tote? Sorry like I said old and confused lol. Yes play with the height I guess, like I said my nozzles were all 180's on the outside and middle for that matter. Here's a pic of root chamber just as rot was setting in, yup lots of light getting in as I now see :(. It's to bad it didn't work out for me, I had just finished another one and was hoping to just swap just the lids to different totes in different roomsimage.jpeg. There were three manifolds (two showing) and 16 spray heads.
 
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OGMMJ

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That's one of the things I disagree with lol. I did it for three years and yup grew plants but nothing compared to what they should have been, I got the rot using microbe lift pl, yes a pond microbe lol. So is that you cloner or your growing tote? Sorry like I said old and confused lol. Yes play with the height I guess, like I said my nozzles were all 180's on the outside and middle for that matter. Here's a pic of root chamber just as rot was setting in, yup lots of light getting in as I now see :(. It's to bad it didn't work out for me, I had just finished another one and was hoping to just swap just the lids to different totes in different roomsView attachment 3680154. There were three manifolds (two showing) and 16 spray heads.
Yeah to bad, but who knows I might end up with flood tables still you never know, I'm only like a month into hands on experience with this set up.

The tote I posted was the new cloner I am having the leak issues with. (Fixed for the moment)

If that's a pic of rot on your plants I'm still very worried lol.

I'll take a pic of mine but warning they are dyed black from the organic nutes...... I'm changin the res out this weekend and leaving out the pure blend pro tea and knocking liquid karma down to 1ml a gallon to help whiten them up until I know the rots gone (probably isn't)

I'll be transferring my seedlings from my cloner bucket to the new tote tomorrow as well as changing the veg nutes and cleaning the tent.
 

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Budley Doright

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Yes they are black :o lol. Looks like the time I tried black rain lol. Another stupid move by me listening to the know not so much hydro store guy lol.
 

OGMMJ

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Yeah I didn't even think about it when I added the pure blend pro tea to it, duhhh oh well the plants are still looking good and I'm still learning :???:
 

Budley Doright

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Here is a pic of the leftover fluff, seeing if it will bulk up a bit image.jpeg and here is the root mat (flooded) also not sure what happened but Res temp is 77 this morning :o! image.jpeg
 

OGMMJ

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Nice setup! Can I ask what tables you have? I haven't done much search into it yet but the style I've seen has the pebbles in the whole tray and that floods and drains back to a res and the net pots just get shoved in the medium wherever you please.
 

Budley Doright

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Nice setup! Can I ask what tables you have? I haven't done much search into it yet but the style I've seen has the pebbles in the whole tray and that floods and drains back to a res and the net pots just get shoved in the medium wherever you please.
I use stacked totes same as you. Just shallower with only 4-6 net pots .
 
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