First ever grow; surprisingly!

[big Laski]

My first grow, self taught, pretty damn proud if i must say so lol.
Aurora indica femenized
mh/hps an led
advanced nutes
topping, fimming, lst, supercropping, defloration
vegged for 2 months
2 weeks into flower
Any questions, comm criticism etc. The pics arnt recent theyre about 28inches tall now. Also wondering what people think the final yield will be? will upload more pics asap.

 

[Anon Emaus]

FIRST

about a pound

 

[KryptoBud]

16 ounces

 

[Feisty1UR]

Exactly 453.592 grams

 

[big Laski]

Heres some fresh pics. Thanks for the guesses, me an my buddies are guessingaround the same. So how do u think there doing for only 2 weeks into flowering an my first grow?

 

[tntgreen13]

I think they meant per plant

 

[coreywebster]

How big is the space used? What power HPS and what LED draw power? Whats the stuff on the walls that looks silver?
They look good. Possible stretch on the bud spacing but hard to say.
They look like they could produce some good weight but without power info and space size its impossible to say.
What is that silver stuff??? I looks dangerous.
Good luck
C.W

 

[GuyLeDuche]

What is that silver stuff???

Space blankets I bet lol

So how do u think there doing for only 2 weeks into flowering an my first grow?

They look good from what I can see, pretty crowded but if you finish out with no bugs or mold then you will have tons of popcorn buds on the lowers to learn hashmaking

 

[coreywebster]

Space blankets I bet lol




They look good from what I can see, pretty crowded but if you finish out with no bugs or mold then you will have tons of popcorn buds on the lowers to learn hashmaking

Yes that was my worry, space blankets! . Stick to plain white flat surface. You could get some serious burning from hot spots using them.

A bit of thinning out may be needed to help the penetration to lower bud sites.
Overall at a guess it looks like plenty of light.

C.W

 

[big Laski]

Yes that was my worry, space blankets! . Stick to plain white flat surface. You could get some serious burning from hot spots using them.

A bit of thinning out may be needed to help the penetration to lower bud sites.
Overall at a guess it looks like plenty of light.

C.W

400watt hps, 180w ufo led
Really wish i got the 600 or 1000watt setup but i was worried about heat which ended up still being a problem with the 400 so i got a tube instead. An i had emergency blankets but there too thin an get very dirty so i got a roll of this mylar stuff thats used for duct work, pretty thick. Oh ye an the closet is about 20 inches wide by about 5 feet long. An to think i was gunna fit 10 of them girls lol. Would love some more input on defloration etc, my buddy is completely against it but i think some more light penetration could help. I took off any leaf thats stem was over an inch on 1 plant about a week ago, its still in pace with the 4 others an you couldnt tell the difference after a week. I think im going to completely defoliate another at day 21 an 45 then compare come hatvest time

 

[big Laski]

An heres some more info incase anyone asks
so 5 AIs started from seed
started in peat pots, then 3 gal fabric pots, now 5 gal buckets
400w cooltube plus 180w led
190cfm exhuast fan
4in plus 10in fan for circulation
humidifier, not used anymore
Soil, ffof plus happy frog with perlite vermiculite an azomite
Advanced nutes micro grow bloom, ph perfect
big bud
Bud swell by aurora i think
Hpk by roots organic
bud candy
Overdrive
flawless finish
cal mag
thrive alive/golden tree/ super thrive
Root 66, highly recommend expensive tho
microbial/ humic fulvic acid etc set
silica blast
think that about covers it

 

[coreywebster]

400watt hps, 180w ufo led
Really wish i got the 600 or 1000watt setup but i was worried about heat which ended up still being a problem with the 400 so i got a tube instead. An i had emergency blankets but there too thin an get very dirty so i got a roll of this mylar stuff thats used for duct work, pretty thick. Oh ye an the closet is about 20 inches wide by about 5 feet long. An to think i was gunna fit 10 of them girls lol. Would love some more input on defloration etc, my buddy is completely against it but i think some more light penetration could help. I took off any leaf thats stem was over an inch on 1 plant about a week ago, its still in pace with the 4 others an you couldnt tell the difference after a week. I think im going to completely defoliate another at day 21 an 45 then compare come hatvest time

Hey big laski,
Cheers for the update and more info. I'm very interested in any LED use especially along side HPS. Its all new to me the LED world. I will follow with interest.
As for defoliation, its not something I have done either (in massive amounts) However all over every forum of this type the debate rages on. I think in your situation there is a place for it, I do mean very small amount though. Ive seen a lot of people show examples of lollipopping which is extreme, however they obviously like the results. I don't think I would ever go down that route myself.
I have over the years had occasions where the weather has changed rapidly and ive slipped up by not going into my room often enough for various reasons and thus had serious wilting mid flower. That caused all my big leaf to not recover and then they drop off. In that case I noticed a big increase in sugarleaf/ small leaf, so its my belief based on that that the plant makes up for loss of its big solar panel leafs by increasing the size of the smaller leaf. That is why I'm not sure about the extremes of lollipopping. That would be my opinion though and I'm sure many would disagree.
Sounds logical to try what your saying and compare to the others.
My worry about the space blankets was not to mock, but to save you from creating hot spots on your girls and burning them in their lady bits!
By the way although I prefer a lot of space between plants a good friend of mine uses my clones and has very cramped conditions. He pulls out some nice amounts, overall his bud density is lower than mine but he does very well with his space.
Will keep an eye on your progress. Good luck with it.
C.W

 

[GuyLeDuche]

Yea, I wouldn't pluck a whole lot more at this point unless there is a real problem. From what I can see they look healthy, just get in there deep and look for wilted, curled, or dried up leaves indicating airflow issues. I think lower defoliation has a place in scrog setups, but I try to avoid it with standing plants. They do use those leaves to take in o2 as well as light, so even shaded leaves can feed the plant. .

I should mention that IMO a 400w setup really shines in a scrog due to the shorter light penetration (compared to 600/1000w), and lower heat. I've seen people crank out a sea of pear sized colas in a closet the size of yours with just 2-4 plants..

 

[big Laski]

So were at about 3 and a half weeks. Girls are looking great. In regard to the led next to hps light, i am also very curious. Once i have the funds i will be upgrading to a 1000w mh/hps or full led. Idk if i can really tell which works better becuase i move my plants around atleast once a week but as of now the plant under the led has sum big buds an possibly more trichs. I will uplaod pics tonight. So i did some pruning/ defoliating last week, took all the small bottom growth that wasnt making buds yet an all the large leaves that were starting to die, was able to take about 50 clones. Also got the AN connoisseur line comming in, supposedly its the best base nutes they offer. Im getting pretty excited for the harvest, i squeezed one of the buds an my fingers were all sticky an it smells so sour an pungent now, deffinately a smell i associate with dank bud lol.

 

[MeJuana]

It's very important that you manage the canopy during veg before you flip to 12/12. Everything crammed in there like that will yield a lot of unnecessary energy to the bottom of the plant which will not be getting much light. You need to train them so those lights you have can penetrate. With a 400w you need the total depth thickness of the canopy around 2 feet max which is already getting into 5K lumens at the bottom of the plant using an HPS I believe. Another thing you might consider when growing in a super tight space is lolipopping your plants such as what big Laski did because it moves the heat source away from your dirt and allows easier access to water with. Did I mention training is best done in veg?

They look great awesome first grow.
Edit: Sorry I think you will get a gram per watt or so just ideally you focus those up top.

 

[big Laski]

Could u elaborate more on what u mean by managing the canopy? What are the best techniques i should utilize for my space? So the plants are now considered lollipopped? An yes i agree, after debating this with a buddy i dont think ill yield over a pound. But thank you, as long as i get a qp of some dank ill be happy

 

[big Laski]

 

[MeJuana]

I'm sorry but your plants look so different I thought you were two people lol Using Low Stress Training to managing the canopy means keeping it all one height and also spreading things out so light and air can get to the buds these are both equally important for increasing bud size. The Low in LST means we won't break or chop the plant usually to achieve this, not on purpose anyway. You will see a lot of folks chopping a lot of the fan leaves off this is something I avoid only doing as a last cast scenario. Typically I want that leaf until it falls off so tucking and turning it out of light completely is better than whacking it off. That is something you will have to decide out for yourself when growing that many plants in a small area which is what I would so also by the way.

There's many ways of to do LST and there are High Stress Training techniques that work well also. One HST method that springs to mind is crushing then bending a dominant shoot so that it is not dominant anymore so the remaining shoots can catch up. Here's LST a great place to start
http://www.growweedeasy.com/lst

Here's Super Cropping a HST method and something you should know if growing in confined height/space
http://www.growweedeasy.com/how-to-super-crop-marijuana

 

[big Laski]

Do u mean the pictures i first posted? Cus those were in veg an i had other stuff mixed in. Now its just the Ais an they all look basically the same to me. An ok thanks for the info, i wasnt sure if there was anything new to read about but ive done all those training methods an more. The ais have been the easiest to lst so far. I think i broke just 1 branch on accident. I have a clone that i just started mainling, should be interesting. Heres sum fresh pics.

 

[MeJuana]

Yeah I confused your first pictures and one of your later pictures to be two people Yeah the canopy does look really good I was just linking up basically what I was referring to. If any sections do shoot up it's great to know what to do and if it were me I would likely just tie the shoot down by attaching a string to the top of the planter. Drilling holes in advanced is easiest but you can also just tie a string around the top then tie strings to that. I have my monsters tied down like that it is great if I need to flush or if they finish at different rates then I can remove one planter.

They look great you are going to have a very nice yield.