Autoflower flowering way too early

Thc247

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Hey Guys,

I'm your typical newbie to the forum, been reading and following for a while, this is my first post. Been interested in plants and botany my whole life so very clued up when it comes to growing stuff. Having said that I'm brand new to cannabis growing. I've started with Autoflowers as I figured this would be the easiest, obviously, like so many noobs I regret that decision and will be growing normal strains from now onwards.

Anyway I started two White Dwarf's in seed trays and within about 3 weeks noticed white pistols growing from the top, I believe this is pre flower? I then transplanted the two into 3gal pots and since then they have further developed pistols as well as the fine crystal like spots you see on the surrounding leaves.

I currently have them in a grow tent with a 400w MH lamp as well as correct ventilation and am running on a 12/12 light schedule (I know this is counter productive to vegetative growth however this was more of a first time grow experiment than anything else)

by the looks of the plants (pics attached) I'm not going to get a very good yield. how much further are these ladies going to grow and what final yield could I expect? I'm using veg nutes at the moment should i switch to flowering nutes ? Would appreciate your thoughts

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why do you think auto flowers are easier ? i dont understand this as i have been growing a while and really cant see how auto flowers are easier for noobs to grow im not starting a debate on autoflowers just a simple question as i really dont understand how auto's are any easier than photperiod if anything i would think the longer light hours would actually result in a more expensive grow if anything
 

WezzyMan

Member
why do you think auto flowers are easier ? i dont understand this as i have been growing a while and really cant see how auto flowers are easier for noobs to grow im not starting a debate on autoflowers just a simple question as i really dont understand how auto's are any easier than photperiod if anything i would think the longer light hours would actually result in a more expensive grow if anything
Yea Its the first time I'm growing herb and I didn't want a huge tree so decided on a dwarf auto flower strain, but yes in future will be staying away from autos and dwarfs, we learn every day.
 

Alienwidow

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Yea Its the first time I'm growing herb and I didn't want a huge tree so decided on a dwarf auto flower strain, but yes in future will be staying away from autos and dwarfs, we learn every day.
If i were you id just plant more beans. Those two arent really going to get you anywhere. Just remember you can still train your autos low. Its not recommended but it still works if theyre getting too big. Those just wont cut it so id pop more myself.
 

WezzyMan

Member
If i were you id just plant more beans. Those two arent really going to get you anywhere. Just remember you can still train your autos low. Its not recommended but it still works if theyre getting too big. Those just wont cut it so id pop more myself.
Yea I have another Cindy 99 auto on the go as well and shes growing like crazy, a new set of leaves each day almost, once i harvest the other two rejects i will pop another 6 beans, in the hope that 3 or 4 are females, will do a grow journal for those. thanks for the tip.
 

billytimmy

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why do you think auto flowers are easier ? i dont understand this as i have been growing a while and really cant see how auto flowers are easier for noobs to grow im not starting a debate on autoflowers just a simple question as i really dont understand how auto's are any easier than photperiod if anything i would think the longer light hours would actually result in a more expensive grow if anything
At the EOD they are probably not easier but the perception is there IMO because they dont require the new grower, who knows nothing and never seen a live cannabis plant, to worry about light schedules and transplanting giving the perception there is less stuff to worry about/more confidence
 

Thc247

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but in reality thou it actually isnt any easier is this correct ? i have never done auto 's and i dont ever plan on it but i really dont see how auto's are better i mean if you dont know about light schedules or potting up will you really know enough to grow a decent auto ? i would think the light schedules make it alot easier to see and know when your plant is going into flower it might b just me but i dont know . when i started i thought auto's sounded alot of hard work and fucking about
 

billytimmy

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but in reality thou it actually isnt any easier is this correct ? i have never done auto 's and i dont ever plan on it but i really dont see how auto's are better i mean if you dont know about light schedules or potting up will you really know enough to grow a decent auto ? i would think the light schedules make it alot easier to see and know when your plant is going into flower it might b just me but i dont know . when i started i thought auto's sounded alot of hard work and fucking about
I think most people are generally full of shit when it comes to all the guidelines for growing an auto and are just parroting things that may or may not be relevant that they have heard before but not actually experienced

are they easier? if your only goal is to get a 1/2-1 ounce a plant in a set it and forget it style and/or you want to swap in new plants randomly at any point in an existing plants cycle then they absolutely have value IMO
 

Thc247

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I think most people are generally full of shit when it comes to all the guidelines for growing an auto and are just parroting things that may or may not be relevant that they have heard before but not actually experienced

are they easier? f your only goal is to get a 1/2-1 ounce a plant in a set it and forget it style and/or you want to swap in new plants randomly at any point in an existing plants cycle then they absolutely have value.
well my goal is never to get 1/2 - 1 oz per plant i would b v v disapointed at that but your def on track there so many people hear some one say something and then relate to what they heard as fact also seed banks put out most of the wrong info to start with to make more money i guess and i can see how noobs would be easily led into trying anything that they believe will make the experience seem less daunting for them but in regards to keeping plants short i also would think photoperiods are alot easier to control height using lst fim or top and using a scrog net also by being in control when you force the plant into flower gives so much more control over the plants than auto imo but hey who am i to decide lol
 

Alienwidow

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why do you think auto flowers are easier ? i dont understand this as i have been growing a while and really cant see how auto flowers are easier for noobs to grow im not starting a debate on autoflowers just a simple question as i really dont understand how auto's are any easier than photperiod if anything i would think the longer light hours would actually result in a more expensive grow if anything
The ease of use is in the fact that you never clone, you never sex plants, you dont over grow your grow cab and then flip to flower, you dont need a 10 gallon pot and three upcans.... Theres plenty of things that are more simple. But there are things that are more difficult as well like you said. You fuck up one thing and theyre peckered. Theres no vegging a little longer because you dont got a little longer. The light cycle is longer on time, but the good autos make up for that in production. Its a debate for another thread honestly, but theres a mix of things easier and harder about them.
 

Diskokobaja

Well-Known Member
Hey Guys,

I'm your typical newbie to the forum, been reading and following for a while, this is my first post. Been interested in plants and botany my whole life so very clued up when it comes to growing stuff. Having said that I'm brand new to cannabis growing. I've started with Autoflowers as I figured this would be the easiest, obviously, like so many noobs I regret that decision and will be growing normal strains from now onwards.

Anyway I started two White Dwarf's in seed trays and within about 3 weeks noticed white pistols growing from the top, I believe this is pre flower? I then transplanted the two into 3gal pots and since then they have further developed pistols as well as the fine crystal like spots you see on the surrounding leaves.

I currently have them in a grow tent with a 400w MH lamp as well as correct ventilation and am running on a 12/12 light schedule (I know this is counter productive to vegetative growth however this was more of a first time grow experiment than anything else)

by the looks of the plants (pics attached) I'm not going to get a very good yield. how much further are these ladies going to grow and what final yield could I expect? I'm using veg nutes at the moment should i switch to flowering nutes ? Would appreciate your thoughts

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i dont know what the f... were yiu reading,but obvious not the begginers guide.. Autos on 12/12???!! wtf??!!
 

Diskokobaja

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one more thing what a bounch off bullshit in this post.. Autos have ruderalis gene in them so they are pretty resistant litte fucks, second they have like inner stopwatch, and when you germinate them,its on,like somebody said, plant your auto in the final pot,you put them on 20/4 light regime and that is that, watch them grow and enjoj... For me there isnt any diference except vigorous and speed, you have to be a master of dissaster to not get your girl to harvest time.. For me biggest advance is that you get complete product,from seed to joint in like 80-90 days..
 

codster25

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why do you think auto flowers are easier ? i dont understand this as i have been growing a while and really cant see how auto flowers are easier for noobs to grow im not starting a debate on autoflowers just a simple question as i really dont understand how auto's are any easier than photperiod if anything i would think the longer light hours would actually result in a more expensive grow if anything
It doesn't matter what light hours you incorporate with autos, you can plant them and basically forget about them, all while not having to go 12 /12.'They are generally less "finicky" too, in my experience anyway.
 
Ironically my first auto was the tallest and highest yield I've had out of them yet. For the pair of fast buds girl scout autos I have now, they flowered pretty quickly without getting as big as I'd like, however they have super tight nodes so we'll see. The plant I didn't train last run was much taller, but had waaaaay lower overall weight and cola size. I think I need more light, and to fill in the spectrum range from the blurple and I'll have the kinks ironed out.

After this run I'm gonna switch to photos so I can have a little more control in what I end up with. It's kind of a dice roll leaving it to genetics and getting a good pheno in your batch, and at $10 a pop I'm not really seeing the returns I'd like. On the other hand the super fast turnaround is kinda cool. You just gotta get like 5 going at once almost like a SOG.
 

mackey

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Don't smoke it all at once
My autos did much better after I switched to the cloth pots. 7 Gallon, they were called but looked more equal to 5 gal. Tried the air pot too, but believe the cloth did better. Used 20/4 on light. 600 hps. for 3 plants. Going to do 4 next time. Easier inside because they don't get so big. We're about 3 1/2 ft. Took up a space 2 ft. X 5 ft. Did bend & tie all but lowest branches. Lost count of harvest but between 6 & 9 ozs, per plant. Used ff soil, it made a difference. Seems the longer it takes to grow a plant, the more problems arise. So autos for me.
 

mackey

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Almost 50 years smoking and the Mephisto Supernatural og is as good as any ever. Guess that why it's been out of stock everywhere for the last year or more.
 

shushubandora

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Auto need to transplant to final pot straight after the first pointy leaf in my opinion.
When you harvest check slowly the soil, you will see the roots are stuck on the old size pot. Means you transplant too late
 
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