Conservative windbag Ben Shapiro whines against workers rights in Obama overtime ruling

bravedave

bravedave

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Padawanbater2 said:
Wrong. If an employer restricts your ability to remain free in society without oppressive restrictions, like exploiting workers labor, they are indeed restricting your liberty
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That would only make sense if there was only one employer. Workers have choices and thus can choose to not be oppressed. Not that difficult a concept. Why do you wish to pretend they have no choice but to be oppressed. Socialist Hogwash.

The market must be working pretty well if we are arguing about people making better than$25 ph.

How stupid do people have to be to want to give this power to the only entity in this day and age that truly can oppress? Wake up.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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bravedave said:
That would only make sense if there was only one employer. Workers have choices and thus can choose to not be oppressed. Not that difficult a concept. Why do you wish to pretend they have no choice but to be oppressed. Socialist Hogwash.

The market must be working pretty well if we are arguing about people making better than$25 ph.

How stupid do people have to be to want to give this power to the only entity in this day and age that truly can oppress? Wake up.
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Oh OK, since that's how it works, I suppose the government can't ever restrict liberty then either, right? I mean, it's not like the US is the only country, people have choices and thus can choose to not be oppressed.

Again, pure genius logic right there!
 
bravedave

bravedave

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Padawanbater2 said:
Oh OK, since that's how it works, I suppose the government can't ever restrict liberty then either, right? I mean, it's not like the US is the only country, people have choices and thus can choose to not be oppressed.

Again, pure genius logic right there!
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No. You seem to have yourself wrapped around your own axle. You are making less and less sense. But, to show you how disjointed your invention is... If government wished to oppress it could also restrict you from coming and going. Starting to see the difference, Doorknob. Think, Soviet Union. Geez...so thick.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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bravedave said:
No. You seem to have yourself wrapped around your own axle. You are making less and less sense. But, to show you how disjointed your invention is... If government wished to oppress it could also restrict you from coming and going. Starting to see the difference, Doorknob. Think, Soviet Union. Geez...so thick.
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You believe only the government can restrict liberty, I just showed you an example of how employers do restrict liberty by exploiting their workers labor

If labor is exploited, liberty is restricted because it is an oppressive restriction imposed by authority

Words have meanings
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
You believe only the government can restrict liberty, I just showed you an example of how employers do restrict liberty by exploiting their workers labor

If labor is exploited, liberty is restricted because it is an oppressive restriction imposed by authority

Words have meanings
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Workers can choose not to accept a job and in turn accept a better job. That is not restriction of liberty. You have choice.

The government has the ability to restrict liberty. They do it all the time. You are forbidden by the government to accept a job at less than a certain wage. That is restriction of liberty.
 
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bundee1

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No. You seem to have yourself wrapped around your own axle. You are making less and less sense. But, to show you how disjointed your invention is... If government wished to oppress it could also restrict you from coming and going. Starting to see the difference, Doorknob. Think, Soviet Union. Geez...so thick.
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You mean like stop and frisk? Oh wait the threat of federal intervention stopped that shit quick in NYC didn't it?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
Workers can choose not to accept a job and in turn accept a better job. That is not restriction of liberty. You have choice.

The government has the ability to restrict liberty. They do it all the time. You are forbidden by the government to accept a job at less than a certain wage. That is restriction of liberty.
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People can choose not to live in the US and in turn live somewhere else. That is not a restriction of liberty. You have a choice.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Padawanbater2 said:
People can choose not to live in the US and in turn live somewhere else. That is not a restriction of liberty. You have a choice.
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True, but you want to change what is and say that if we dont like the changes we can get out. If you dont like society you can of course live somewhere else as well. You have no restriction of your liberty.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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NLXSK1 said:
True, but you want to change what is and say that if we dont like the changes we can get out. If you dont like society you can of course live somewhere else as well. You have no restriction of your liberty.
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For anyone who chooses to live and work in the US, there are restrictions on liberty since exploiting workers labor is an oppressive restriction imposed by authority
 
bravedave

bravedave

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Padawanbater2 said:
You believe only the government can restrict liberty, I just showed you an example of how employers do restrict liberty by exploiting their workers labor

If labor is exploited, liberty is restricted because it is an oppressive restriction imposed by authority

Words have meanings
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You showed nothing of the sort.
 
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