Are cobs worth it?

[Greengenes707]

I was mistaking in the gpw "toked up", his total from the 1500 watts amounted to 1700 grams. This is 1.1 gpw, I can get this amount all day long with 3watt diodes. Why convert? Another user told me his amount totaled .7 gpw. That is when i started to become nervous. Have also read about one guy complaining his harvest was light from these cobs. He didnt post gpw but nonetheless he was disappointed. He is now in his second grow, waiting for his results and others.

The grow has been the same and has not changed or "toked up" overnight. If you call that a fail, then you should just stay with whatever you're doing cause you'll never like anything someone else shows you. You have been shown higher g/w from other growers and choose not to look and only focus on things that you consider issues. You are stuck on a grow from a clone only cookie stain that still pulled ~55g/sqft, and is somehow not enough. That is the real number to be looking at...how well did you grow out the space. What do you usually pull per sqft? As well as the lights in that being a generation and a half old. With current lights putting out 10-20% more light than what I was using. But I don't need excuses. That grow was great and I would be anyone would not do better. And if you think you can...then prove it and get the cut.

Otherwise you can see I have gotten 1.2- 1.5g/w for 2+ years with the same lights. And shown it week after week after week fully documented. As well as years before that using apache at600 and documenting that. And a side by side with a 1000w. As well as years of fully documented hps grows here on RIU. If you can't see what the tech has done for me...and in turn how that would translate to your results, then please just keep using what you are using. And there are many others that have already shown you ~2g/w. That is not me, and never has been. But I grow better herb than anyone and will put up results anytime, weight and lab.

 

[Tim Fox]

I've hit 2 GPW a couple times with the good COB's along with some others here.

Hey Captain, did you hit the 2.0 with the 3070's or with the 3590's,, or both?
thanks

 

[captainmorgan]

Hey Captain, did you hit the 2.0 with the 3070's or with the 3590's,, or both?
thanks

Not sure,would have to look back at my threads,did it once with GG#4 and again with a Chaos. I really believe the difference has been how much time I've been able to spend taking care of the plants,training,pruning and such. I had much more time to spend with those two runs but have been very busy since then and my yields are in the 1.3 to 1.5 range with what I consider neglected plants.

 

[hyroot]

Genetics and method is most of what yield depends on. Lighting is just a small factor. Girl scout cookies is going to yield far less than gg4 no matter what method. With the same veg time and nutes and everything. With any method if you don't know what you are doing, don't know how to read a plant, and don't stay on top of things. Yield will be poor even with gavitas in a green house under the sun. Getting a big yield is a lot easier than getting the most out of your genetics and at the best quality too.

Dial in your skills before chasing after the perfect light.

 

[Airwalker16]

"Are cobs worth it?"

Yes.

 

[Tim Fox]

"Are cobs worth it?"

Yes.

Yes

 

[BOBBY_G]

Not sure,would have to look back at my threads,did it once with GG#4 and again with a Chaos. I really believe the difference has been how much time I've been able to spend taking care of the plants,training,pruning and such

amen.

real easy to get nice numbers & quality in a small garden but hard to give the same attention to anything of a large size without making it your full time gig.

 

[sethimus]

Who cares where the video comes from it was actually by someone who had contributed to this post!

are you slow or something? i tried to criticize the op for making claims without backing them. I DO know that cobs are worth it, i want to see said video in which those claims are originating from. how hard is that to understand, like srsly?

 

[BOBBY_G]

I was mistaking in the gpw "toked up", his total from the 1500 watts amounted to 1700 grams. This is 1.1 gpw, I can get this amount all day long with 3watt diodes. Why convert? Another user told me his amount totaled .7 gpw. That is when i started to become nervous. Have also read about one guy complaining his harvest was light from these cobs. He didnt post gpw but nonetheless he was disappointed. He is now in his second grow, waiting for his results and others.

no shame in that game. look how well developed the lower buds are

 

[gk skunky]

Hell I was pulling average 1.3-1.5gpw with 6 old cxa 3070 z4s @1.5mA, 1-a51xgs 190, and 1-A51 Rw 150.

 

[Tim Fox]

Hell I was pulling average 1.3-1.5gpw with 6 old cxa 3070 z4s @1.5mA, 1-a51xgs 190, and 1-A51 Rw 150.

the cxa3070's are a fantastic value now, and they still grow great weed , they should still be considered by anyone , especially if they want to save money on and LED build

 

[hillbill]

Worth it, the amount of light produced can be measured and the spectrum known. What is the mystery? What is being said here is this inefficient light source with a poor spectrum is better than a more efficient light source with a great full spectrum. Tough to defend that thought process.

 

[Yodaweed]

Thc profile / terpene profile, then we can argue back and forth. Let see some subjective data, isn't that what you should be asking of the professional grower on Youtube. Vette the mutha...

So many variables to account for, that aren't, will literally make your head spin.

Stop that, COBs don't grow better bud than other lights, if anything they have less trics because they have ZERO UV light. They might yield well because they produce a ton of light but the spectrum definitely leaves something to be desired.

 

[hillbill]

Bullshit.

 

[Tim Fox]

As I sit back every night, and relax, then smoke some of my bud grown under the cree cobs,, and the effects are fantastic,, i wonder to myself,, whats all the "Hub Bub" all about any ways,, some great Dannk grown under my cobs,
strange,, it looks just like the weed I grew under my 400 watt bulb years ago,, but hey, I will sit back and get high and watch the "big show" as people go back and forth on which is better,, its entertaining if nothing else

 

[Yodaweed]

Bullshit.

CXB3590 spectrums.

Where's your proof? Or are you just another person that talks out their ass? Standard LED user practices.
That chart shows zero uv light, good luck getting the frost you can under a light with UV light like a CMH/MH/T5/etc.

 

[hyroot]

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CXB3590 spectrums.

Where's your proof? Or are you just another person that talks out their ass? Standard LED user practices.
That chart shows zero uv light, good luck getting the frost you can under a light with UV light like a CMH/MH/T5/etc.

Deep blue and deep red also promote trichome development. I'm seeing more trichome production under cxa's than my inda gros. My ig's put out uva and uvb. We'll see in the end how they compare to the cmh.

 

[Yodaweed]

Deep blue and deep red also promote trichome development. Im seeing more trichome production under cxb's than my inda gros. My ig's put out uva and uvb. Well see in the end how they compare to the cmh.

I never thought those induction lights were very impressive wayyy too much blue. Maybe if you use them to supplement a HPS... bet they would make good veg lights.

 

[hyroot]

I never thought those induction lights were very impressive wayyy too much blue. Maybe if you use them to supplement a HPS...

Actually they have a pretty even spectrum. They have a cri of 95 . Mine are just 4 years old.

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I was hitting a qp per plant up until 6 months ago. Now I get 3 zips on those same size plants. My last harvest I got 7 zips on one plant. That plant was scrogged out to a 4x4 though.

 

[Yodaweed]

Actually they have a pretty even spectrum. They have a cri of 95 . Mine are just 4 years old.

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Cant replace the bulb right? That sucks bet your losing a crapload of intensity.