natro.hydro
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It is, but they made it right by not profiting off them, although you could argue some people probably order just to grab those as freebies lol.
In House Genetics Thread
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Yodaweed
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Was it a clone or did they buy seeds from archive? If seeds in my book if you paid money for them and grew them and selected your own phenotype at that point its your plant and making seeds should be ok. If it was a clone that's not cool.
natro.hydro
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Clone, not sure where they got it from. Only dosidos seeds I know of still are the pack greenline organic has.
IMO you should ask regardless to make sure you aren't trying to do something they are already working on, same pheno or not. Unless you are just gonna give them away then I don't see the problem.
akhiymjames
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I don't see what's he big deal about them using Dosidos in crosses. It's a clone that's widely available in Cali and if you were lucky to by seeds then you will have it so what's the issue?? Would it be disrespectful for me if I lived in Cali acquired he clone and made crosses and sold them? Should I have to ask Thadocta to use it in my crosses? IHG won't be the only ones putting out crosses of it so I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone knows who Dosidos is created by so they can't take credit for that but I just don't see what he big deal is really. Every breeder uses somebody work in crosses I just dont understand why you have to ask permission unless Thadocta gifted the Dosidos to them then I can see but I'm sure they acquired it just like any of us can. Oh well lol
Yodaweed
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If I bought seeds and grew them out and pheno selected why would I need to ask the person who willingly sold them knowing someone could do that, if it was a clone they could ask you not to but for seeds sounds kinda like a reach to me.
Yodaweed
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Agreed, I got a golden goat clone only, does that mean I need to ask mr dank to make seeds(paid for clone from a dispensary)? i'm pretty sure other companies used this same strain and didn't ask ala GGG golden gage.
Yodaweed
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In my book once you bought it, it's yours and you can do what you want with it, I mean isn't that what the payment is for? Even gifted clones should be up for grabs unless someone says something, I gave out GG4, and other personal strains and I never expect someone not to use the plants however they want including making seeds, that's just stupid and being an Indian giver.
akhiymjames
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Hell many of the breeders making GG4 crosses never cleared it with Joesy Wales. Only one I know for sure was Bodhi but I just don't get about having to ask unless you got it from someone who created it. If you bought it on the open market then you can do what you want with it but hate just me. Just give credit where it is due
Beemo
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akhiymjames
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The Thin Mint cut isn't actually rare. Many people have it its all about who you know but it's out there. As I have heard with a lot of their(Cookie Fam) cultivars that it's good but just not as good as the hype it receives. A lot who have had the Thin Mint cut says Forum is better so that's what they run. But could be just another bag seed pheno since they says it's never been released but I heard of someone connected to them had it and sold for big bucks so who knows lol
Yodaweed
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I ran the "thin mint" cut, no way it was the original but it tasted minty, I think there's a lot of fakes going around(cali connection made a fake thin mint strain).
akhiymjames
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Trust me when I say people have Thin Mints. Hell even a couple members here have it but lots have it over ICmag. We all know about he fake cuts going around but most don't go by Thin Mints most go by GSC but believe me when I say Thin Mints is out there just have to get with right people. Some of the people who have it are well known online and in the grow scene so I'm pretty sure they ain't lying out the ass lol but could be
kmog33
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im good on it too with the exception of their "elite line", which bothers me on a couple different levels.
i think this is on point. People are buying their gear for the dosido freebies.
When they were first posting pics on ig they said it was "archives cut", but later swapped to it being pheno hunted. (I actually called them out on ig for posting like they had created the strain, shortly after they edited the description to "their pheno hunted cut" of archives dosidos).
I think it's more a respect thing than anything else as almost all these us based breeders are breeding with the same lines at this point. Forum, thin mint, mendobreath, uncirculated ogs, fpog, cookies and cream, ogkb, the white etc. it's actually surprising that not everyone's gear looks exactly the same yet lol. Half joking.
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natro.hydro
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It's all obviously a matter of personal opinion. But let's take stardawg for instance, lots of people using it and making crosses. Not all have asked JJ if he is cool with it. Like in the instance of gu, JJ asked him not to do the stardawg crosses because in those massive lists of strains he was testing were some crosses JJ was trying to work like the stardawg 91. Gu had Chem 91 x stardawg 8n his list and didn't see that as a problem.
That to me is low, basically riding somebody else's wave (not much of a surfer lol). You wanna f2 it or work the line further in a different direction thaN the breeder cool. But if your just gonna hit it to every clone only in existence there is bound to be overlapping/redundant breeding projects.
Redundancy can be avoided easily just by making sure you aren't stepping on toes or biting style
If these two bit chuckers take dosidos and hit it to every thing they have you are bound to have some instability and so regardless of who bred the strain, dosidos will have a tarnished reputation.
Just my .02 on the whole permission thing, don't take it personal or nothing.
Eta another example, @genuity doesn't sell his seeds (yet?) But if I had a strain of his like fireballs or honeybee I would ask him to see what's up before I Chuck like no tomorrow. It's not that I would expect him to say no, but maybe he knows something I don't like a strain doesn't play well with cookies or some shit. Same with @bigworm6969, even though he does sell his. There are many reasons to ask permission and most of them are good ones imo.
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Yodaweed
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Funny you mention JJ and those genetics I know someone that has the guava(aka stardawg) cut he used to make a lot of those but they promised they wouldn't give it out and have actually lived up to their word, I love that guava it tastes amazing.
SmokyLungs
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Not true they made two crosses with dosido n they could of said fuck dude n released them but they didn't their strains are available to the public lot of people making profit of growing so what's the big deal if someone crosses them? and nobody is buying their gear like that just for some freebies only a few purchases have been made on firestax u can tell cuz they have 40 packs for a lot of shit still untouched and tdt has little to no stock off ihg gear
Yodaweed
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To me the "thin mint" cut always was lacking I always liked the forum cut better, that's one of the main reasons I still believe the cookie fam has the original and others are confused thinking they have the real deal and in reality its just a similar plant but not identical. Like a remake of the original but not quite as good.