In House Genetics Thread

[SmokyLungs]

why dont these so called new breeders do some real work... or do they only know how to CHUCK....
like work the line and create something new....
like 303/gu/greendot monster cookies and h&l appalachia, something worked...

Nothing is new everything has been here beforehand what u want them to do start a new plant from scratch no seed or clone ? Everything has a source and if its easy to obtain fire genetics why not do it that way? Why don't u make your own stuff ? Do u tell your customers before selling them a bag which breeder u obtained these genetics from? Why don't u go hunt a cow as well lol it's 2016 shit changes man y'all need to grow up n be happy shit is made easy for us to get

 

[Beemo]

Nothing is new everything has been here beforehand what u want them to do start a new plant from scratch no seed or clone ?

your missing tha point...
if your a breeder,, do your OWN work...
like thug pug $400 peanut butter,,,, a dispensary in cali can make those in no time...
but if thug used peanut butter in his crosses, that might be something ill be interested...

Do u tell your customers before selling them a bag which breeder u obtained these genetics from?

no, dont have.
my customers ALWAYS ask what is this???? what brand??? before i even take it out of the jar...

man y'all need to grow up n be happy shit is made easy for us to get

get'em all... ill pass... more for you

 

[Amos Otis]

why dont these so called new breeders do some real work... or do they only know how to CHUCK....
like work the line and create something new....
like 303/gu/greendot monster cookies and h&l appalachia, something worked...

Just because Hyundai makes low cost cars, doesn't mean that their business model is flawed compared to BMW.

A good business plan is to identify a market, even within a market, then produce the corresponding product in a cost effective manner.

im good on it too with the exception of their "elite line", which bothers me on a couple different levels.

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We show our disdain by not making that purchase.

 

[Beemo]

Just because Hyundai makes low cost cars, doesn't mean that their business model is flawed compared to BMW.
A good business plan is to identify a market, even within a market, then produce the corresponding product in a cost effective manner.

i agree.... big believer of, you get what you paid for...
just like jordans and fake jordans,, there's a market for both

 

[SmokyLungs]

i agree.... big believer of, you get what you paid for...
just like jordans and fake jordans,, there's a market for both

Even Jordan's aint quality no more compared to their old releases

 

[Amos Otis]

i agree.... big believer of, you get what you paid for...
just like jordans and fake jordans,, there's a market for both

In a blind taste test, I'll bet you couldn't tell the difference between Safeway's private label ranch dressing, and Hidden Valley ranch.

 

[Beemo]

In a blind taste test, I'll bet you couldn't tell the difference between Safeway's private label ranch dressing, and Hidden Valley ranch.

yuck.... dont like hidden valley ranch...
no different than a restaurant... they all shop at cisco...

 

[SmokyLungs]

your missing tha point...
if your a breeder,, do your OWN work...
like thug pug $400 peanut butter,,,, a dispensary in cali can make those in no time...
but if thug used peanut butter in his crosses, that might be something ill be interested...

no, dont have.
my customers ALWAYS ask what is this???? what brand??? before i even take it out of the jar...

get'em all... ill pass... more for you

I know what your saying but u are acting like they just grab seeds from other companies and slap their label on them they still make their own crosses with other strains that have a lot of recognition what's wrong with that?

 

[SmokyLungs]

Wing stop ranch beats any fancy label ranch !

 

[Amos Otis]

I know what your saying but u are acting like they just grab seeds from other companies and slap their label on them they still make their own crosses with other strains that have a lot of recognition what's wrong with that?

There are good cats with respect, and other cats that don't see it as necessary or worthwhile.

I'd say that's about it.

 

[Beemo]

from a breeder that actually breeds and further his lines... and very knowledgeable with botany breeding

why this breeder will never reverse his cuttings...
" I have stated that in the past. It is due to the methods used to reverse the cuttings. I have seen many breeders projects go south quickly when they get reports back of up to 50% of the seed stock herming on their testers. This is far too risky for me to venture into. "

how many did ihg reverse their cuts?

 

[Amos Otis]

from a breeder that actually breeds and further his lines... and very knowledgeable with botany breeding

why this breeder will never reverse his cuttings...
" I have stated that in the past. It is due to the methods used to reverse the cuttings. I have seen many breeders projects go south quickly when they get reports back of up to 50% of the seed stock herming on their testers. This is far too risky for me to venture into. "

how many did ihg reverse their cuts?

Somebody knows, and I guess somebody cares. I had one bump on regs for fems, but otherwise have jars of stellar smoke for little $ investment. That's still the goal, right?

 

[Beemo]

Somebody knows, and I guess somebody cares. I had one bump on regs for fems, but otherwise have jars of stellar smoke for little $ investment. That's still the goal, right?

hopefully the goal for them is to put out quality... not quantity

 

[Amos Otis]

hopefully the goal for them is to put out quality... not quantity

They have their goals, and I have mine. It's been a good match so far.

 

[st0wandgrow]

i agree.... big believer of, you get what you paid for...

In most cases I'd agree with that. I would never argue that a Kia Sorento is comparable to a BMW 6 series. The BMW is a better car, with better parts, that goes faster, looks nicer, and will last longer. There are tangible differences that set them apart.

Do you feel that you can use that same logic when it comes to marijuana seed makers ? I don't. Every single one of these breeders is using, or has access to the exact same genetics. Ghost OG, SFV OG, cookies, Blue Dream, Golden Goat, etc, etc. Shit, some of them are even using the same or similar males. How is one companies Ghost OG x OG male worth $300, and the other companies Ghost OG x OG male worth $75? What sets them apart to the degree that one is worth 4x as much....aside from hype and marketing?

 

[Beemo]

Do you feel that you can use that same logic when it comes to marijuana seed makers ?

i do... not every breeder can get the same cuts from the originator...
its always, it came from a buddy of mine, he's tha cousin of the orgn kid... its legit I swear....

 

[st0wandgrow]

i do... not every breeder can get the same cuts from the originator...
its always, it came from a buddy of mine, he's tha cousin of the orgn kid... its legit I swear....

Well, if that's the case then maybe I'd agree. 5-10 years ago I'd say that was the case. I'm not sure about that anymore though. I find it hard to believe that Sin, or Bodhi, or Professor P don't have access to the same cuts as everyone else does. I'm no well connected breeder, but I bet I could get my hands on the majority of these trendy clone only's if I really wanted to. Things have really changed recently.

 

[Beemo]

Well, if that's the case then maybe I'd agree. 5-10 years ago I'd say that was the case. I'm not sure about that anymore though. I find it hard to believe that Sin, or Bodhi, or Professor P don't have access to the same cuts as everyone else does. I'm no well connected breeder, but I bet I could get my hands on the majority of these trendy clone only's if I really wanted to. Things have really changed recently.

well known breeders that been in the game dont have that problem...
not into clones period... like to find my own gem...
but if i did want a clone, i want it from the originator.. not from a dispensary...
pretty much all the exclusive strains are at the dispensary's...
they say its ghost og... but is it from orgn kid??
which would you rather have?

EDIT: the dispensary could be selling you this clone... LOL... its ghost og tho
https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/apothecary-genetics-seeds-ghost-og/prod_4526.html

 

[st0wandgrow]

well known breeders that been in the game dont have that problem...
not into clones period... like to find my own gem...
but if i did want a clone, i want it from the originator.. not from a dispensary...
pretty much all the exclusive strains are at the dispensary's...
they say its ghost og... but is it from orgn kid??
which would you rather have?

EDIT: the dispensary could be selling you this clone... LOL... its ghost og tho
https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/apothecary-genetics-seeds-ghost-og/prod_4526.html

For sure on the dispensaries. I don't trust them one bit. I've been duped more than once. Pretty much any cut that I've got from a fellow grower has been great though. Now, can I verify with 100% certainty that my Blue Dream, or GG#4, or cookies is the real deal? No I can't....but they all produce excellent smoke, which is all I really care about. If I were a breeder I'd have to do my due diligence before selling something as x when it could in fact be y.

 

[Beemo]

If I were a breeder I'd have to do my due diligence before selling something as x when it could in fact be y.

as a consumer, thats all i ask....