GroErr Grows...
Evil-Mobo
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Yes it was most definitely and I changed it. My apologies.
The N & B are next to each other the error that was made is easy to see.......
ttystikk
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ttystikk
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Lol Swype is the bane of my written existence!
GroErr
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Good timing, it did what it was supposed to do for me. Just pulled out the SIP and it was an inch from the bottom, but the wick (rock wool) was still soaked so it may have gone another day or two. Put it in 5/22 so 12 days+. Now that's in veg in a 1gal pot, fairly large plant for 1gal. Definitely needed a boost of nutes but it survived which is what I'm looking for, might make a few to have available if needed for vegging.. Have to try out a 5gal bucket in flowering. Don't think it would last 7 days though, in flowering I may just stick to a drip system, it's worked in the past.
GroErr
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Hi all, Day 42 (COBs) and Day 14 (CMH) in the flower room and all are doing great. No issues, everything's dialed in and rocking. The 3x 5gal are going into the fattening up stage and continue to stack those colas, going to have some leaners before they finish. The 5x 3gal have stretched out to a good 3x4' footprint under the CMH, moved the light up to 22-24" now to cover it, nice even canopy considering there are 4 different phenos of Blue Ripper and 1x Harlequin under there. Looking like the COBs will extend the flowering time right now, the Blue Ripper 2 pheno normally finish in 56-60 days under CMH but I'm thinking 60 minimum, likely a full 9 weeks. Not necessarily a bad thing if they continue to stack buds like they have been. No idea on that Fireballs pheno in the center since it's a first run from seed but it seems to be maturing at about the same rate as the Blue Ripper's.
Group shots:
Blue Ripper Day 42:
Fireballs Day 42:
Cheers
Group shots:
Blue Ripper Day 42:
Fireballs Day 42:
Cheers
GroErr
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So I've been looking around and thinking of picking up one of these dry sift tumblers for a while. I'm having a bit of a time keeping up with running sift, making caps etc. so thought I'd try one. This one below is on it's way, should arrive sometime next week. Almost pulled the trigger on a different one called the PollenMaster 150 but looking at the builds and specs went with the Pollen Extractor model, it looks like much the same design and capacity but costs 1/3rd of the price of the PollenMaster 150. Would be nice to push a button and walk away, will save me some back pain bending over a sift screen.
https://www.pollenextractor.com/Shop/en/pollen-extractor-original/pollen-extractor-usa.html
Cheers
https://www.pollenextractor.com/Shop/en/pollen-extractor-original/pollen-extractor-usa.html
Cheers
GroErr
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Mix of seeds and clones in the 2x2 tent, transplanted out of cups into 1gal's yesterday. Using that space for a couple of weeks until the veg tent becomes available. Have a couple of Plemon and another Blue Ripper in the veg cabinet plus a bunch of clones including males.
There's 1x Blue Ripper 1 and 2x Blue Ripper 2 clones. Then a Blue Pyramid fem from seed and 2x Harlequin x Blue Ripper tester seedlings. The Harlequin x Blue Ripper bottom-right is the tri-leaf pheno. That one's looking and smelling good already so popped some more into water cups tonight to have a better look through those F1's
Cheers
There's 1x Blue Ripper 1 and 2x Blue Ripper 2 clones. Then a Blue Pyramid fem from seed and 2x Harlequin x Blue Ripper tester seedlings. The Harlequin x Blue Ripper bottom-right is the tri-leaf pheno. That one's looking and smelling good already so popped some more into water cups tonight to have a better look through those F1's
Cheers
Humanrob
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Are you finding that in general plants take longer to finish under COBs than other lights?
ttystikk
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I personally haven't found this to be the case, even with lower temperatures. YMMV with conditions, spectrum, intensity, and of course strain.
GroErr
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They haven't finished so won't know for sure until they do but they're not as far along as they normally would be under CMH. When I switched from blurples to CMH it knocked close to a week off. When I've flowered the same strains (clones) under COBs in the small tent they typically take 4-5 days longer to reach the same maturity. That's a different environment so will be able to tell more when these finish.
Humanrob
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I find the different effects that lights have on plants to be really fascinating. Time is interesting, but more of a curiosity. My patient likes/needs very high THC meds, but I haven't seen a lot of test comparisons between different lights that goes as far as THC testing the final product. Another by-product of legalization, as the market becomes super competitive high THC content is becoming more of a selling point (and the labels are required to list THC on the product). Growers will probably at first gravitate towards known high THC producing strains, but eventually other factors like lights should become part of the equation in terms of striving for competitive advantages.
GroErr
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Yeah, lights and environment can certainly vary end results. I've seen others post about this reduce time to finish with CMH. If that's the only variable and you grow out clones in the same room with reduced time, I have to attribute it to the lights. We don't have testing available here yet (that is available to the average grower) since it's still illegal to grow other than a small market of grandfathered medical grow licenses. It would be great to know THC/CBD levels, and any other significant cannabinoids in my strains, I'd spend the money for testing if it was available. It would be great for breeding projects in particular and help me confirm certain phenos before breeding them further. I have no interest in competitive advantages for the purpose of trade/business because I don't sell into the BM nor grow enough to bother. But I do have an interest in efficiency, quality and pushing the envelope for the same reason, no income from it other than the odd QP to cover costs. Even that odd QP is no big deal to me, it costs me less than $200/month all-in to operate what I'm running. Even if I could buy it for less than the $200/month (doubtful even if prices drop way down considering the amount of edibles/caps, sift/hash, and flowers I use) I'd still grow it to know what I'm consuming. Shit cigarette smokers spend more than that a month. And it's a lot more fun
Humanrob
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I get that you're not growing to sell, me either. I'm just hoping some of the by-product of a market that (at least for now, and in legal states) seems to have a decent profit potential will drive those with a lot invested to test various platforms extensively. In the end, it may be an information trickle down, where the results of those deep pocket tests become common knowledge. If not from the producers side, then at least from the light manufacturers side. If I made COB lights and could do a replicable test that indicated that they produce even 5% more THC than (for example) HPS, I'd be pushing that information at commercial growers.Yeah, lights and environment can certainly vary end results. I've seen others post about this reduce time to finish with CMH. If that's the only variable and you grow out clones in the same room with reduced time, I have to attribute it to the lights. We don't have testing available here yet (that is available to the average grower) since it's still illegal to grow other than a small market of grandfathered medical grow licenses. It would be great to know THC/CBD levels, and any other significant cannabinoids in my strains, I'd spend the money for testing if it was available. It would be great for breeding projects in particular and help me confirm certain phenos before breeding them further. I have no interest in competitive advantages for the purpose of trade/business because I don't sell into the BM nor grow enough to bother. But I do have an interest in efficiency, quality and pushing the envelope for the same reason, no income from it other than the odd QP to cover costs. Even that odd QP is no big deal to me, it costs me less than $200/month all-in to operate what I'm running. Even if I could buy it for less than the $200/month (doubtful even if prices drop way down considering the amount of edibles/caps, sift/hash, and flowers I use) I'd still grow it to know what I'm consuming. Shit cigarette smokers spend more than that a month. And it's a lot more fun
It's a new type of market. The BM had word of mouth, the new market has labels with lab tested results. I think its going to change everything.
GroErr
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Yeah that's a tough call on where info comes from. Most individual growers don't track enough and have too many variables to depend on something like higher THC content. For instance (in my mind) I'm sure the terps are enhanced when running under COBs and recently mentioned it in a post. But that's very subjective and I can't back that up without testing. Only reference of testing I've seen was quite a while ago GreenGenes did a side-by-side with diode based A51 LED's vs. HPS and the terp profiles were better across the board for the LED grown bud.
I much prefer used-based results (if tracked well) as manufacturer sponsored studies or grow results will tend to lean towards whoever is paying the bill. Proper lab-based independent studies are hard to come by for some of the stuff we're looking for.
Any of you guys take the THC % reporting with a grain of salt? Sometimes it seems to be misleading and purely an advertisers claim to quality. I dont dispute the methodology of detecting the thc percentages. It seems though, that sometimes high THC strains lack the subtle factors that make a great smoke. Not exactly the same as everclear vs Buleit but along similar lines.
I'd almost always prefer a 12-14 week 15% strain than a 25% 8 weeker.
@GroErr, any thoughts on those purple petioles on your girls in post #1571?
I'd almost always prefer a 12-14 week 15% strain than a 25% 8 weeker.
@GroErr, any thoughts on those purple petioles on your girls in post #1571?
Humanrob
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This is a huge grey area -- source of information, and subjective experience when smoking. At dispensaries more than once I've had the budtender tell me that people often most enjoy the entire experience of the high with some of the strains that have lower tested THC levels. Some people have gotten fixated on THC, my patient has been smoking for 30 years, so her tolerance is high and it matters to her.
I've also read that the THC level varies throughout the plant, and if they send in the tip of the top cola (for instance) and you later buy a bag of buds that were lower on the plant, what you are smoking might not test the same as the part that was sent to the lab.