The official Hillary Clinton will be our next president thread
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Fogdog
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Run for office, me? Hell no, I'd be a terrible leader. And make a worse follower.
I don't share personal information here so won't go into my own efforts but I do engage in personal effort to change the real world. There is so much to do that I put my focus on one area. That being I put my some of my time and resources to support education of girls and women in parts of the developing world where their education have been suppressed. When women are better educated, so many things get better for them and their society. However, it is an incrementalist approach. One person, one family, one community at time.
How does one eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
I've been mystified how anybody can object to efforts at reducing climate change. I've benefited from discussions here with our local deniers and learned much, to my dismay. The main problem is malicious capitalism but also ignorance. The two are a toxic brew. They need to be addressed but they are two different problems. Malicious capitalism is mostly what you go on about but ignorance is something that simply isn't going to be fixed by policy alone.
Malicious capitalism -- some might say capitalism is malicious -- is not going down with words. I get your fear and impatience but I don't hear all the answers coming from political efforts. I don't think the answer to the problems caused by malicious capitalism lie in economics either, as they are taught today. I don't think we know enough about humans and human behavior yet. This is not to say we don't have good ideas that need to be implemented but it's all one big experiment. For this reason, small change is better than big. Theorize, hypothesize, plan, implement, analyze results, incorporate good results and repeat the learning cycle again and again. This is how we will evolve civilization. It's actually what's happening in one fashion or another and has been going on for about 10,000 years.
We spend our time talking about today's election. This is an example of small change, not big. Republicans represent small change backwards while the Democrats who have put Hillary up as candidate also represents small change backwards only less so. That is unacceptable. I think Bernie's efforts might correct that but not as the president. Barring some wildly small chance of turning things around, if he makes a difference it will be behind the scenes. There is nothing you say that reverses this. Trump is not ever going to be made into a positive. Hillary and the system she leads just might be.
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ttystikk
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Good clip, and all the more reason not to vote for or support Shillary for the nomination or for president.
ArcticGranite
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You baseless piece of shit. How can you shill for a lying cunt and pretend to have integrity?
Ace Yonder
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Because he's right?
SpiderDude
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Wall Street Journal: The FBI Leaks Begin: Emails At Center Of Hillary Criminal Probe Revealed
“Is there going to be political interference? If there’s enough evidence to prosecute, will there be political interference?” Grassley wondered aloud on Friday. "And if there’s political interference, then I assume that somebody in the FBI is going to leak these reports and it’s either going to have an effect politically or it’s going to lead to prosecution if there’s enough evidence." It appears that this is precisely what may have happened, and the "source" used the WSJ as the distribution platform. And now that we (don't) know the "who", here is the "what."
This is an issue, and potentially a criminal one, because "law-enforcement and intelligence officials said State Department deliberations about the covert CIA drone program should have been conducted over a more secure government computer system designed to handle classified information. State Department officials told FBI investigators they communicated via the less-secure system on a few instances, according to congressional and law-enforcement officials. It happened when decisions about imminent strikes had to be relayed fast and the U.S. diplomats in Pakistan or Washington didn’t have ready access to a more-secure system, either because it was night or they were traveling."
The WSJ adds that emails sent over the low side sometimes were informal discussions that occurred in addition to more-formal notifications through secure communications, the officials said.
One such exchange came just before Christmas in 2011, when the U.S. ambassador sent a short, cryptic note to his boss indicating a drone strike was planned. That sparked a back-and-forth among Clinton’s senior advisers over the next few days, in which it was clear they were having the discussions in part because people were away from their offices for the holiday and didn’t have access to a classified computer, officials said.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-10/fbi-leaks-begin-emails-center-hillary-criminal-probe-revealed
“Is there going to be political interference? If there’s enough evidence to prosecute, will there be political interference?” Grassley wondered aloud on Friday. "And if there’s political interference, then I assume that somebody in the FBI is going to leak these reports and it’s either going to have an effect politically or it’s going to lead to prosecution if there’s enough evidence." It appears that this is precisely what may have happened, and the "source" used the WSJ as the distribution platform. And now that we (don't) know the "who", here is the "what."
This is an issue, and potentially a criminal one, because "law-enforcement and intelligence officials said State Department deliberations about the covert CIA drone program should have been conducted over a more secure government computer system designed to handle classified information. State Department officials told FBI investigators they communicated via the less-secure system on a few instances, according to congressional and law-enforcement officials. It happened when decisions about imminent strikes had to be relayed fast and the U.S. diplomats in Pakistan or Washington didn’t have ready access to a more-secure system, either because it was night or they were traveling."
The WSJ adds that emails sent over the low side sometimes were informal discussions that occurred in addition to more-formal notifications through secure communications, the officials said.
One such exchange came just before Christmas in 2011, when the U.S. ambassador sent a short, cryptic note to his boss indicating a drone strike was planned. That sparked a back-and-forth among Clinton’s senior advisers over the next few days, in which it was clear they were having the discussions in part because people were away from their offices for the holiday and didn’t have access to a classified computer, officials said.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-10/fbi-leaks-begin-emails-center-hillary-criminal-probe-revealed
SpiderDude
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Get out the popcorn, because it looks like all of hillary's email (( dirt )) will be leaked as the corrupt golfer protects hillary at all cost. I'm sure they are stewing over this, looong hot summer looming ~
Glad we have real american hero who will leak her dirty laundry all summer long, hope it's a slow drip of information so it keeps her on the defensive and give trump ammo for hammering " crooked hillary " ........
Glad we have real american hero who will leak her dirty laundry all summer long, hope it's a slow drip of information so it keeps her on the defensive and give trump ammo for hammering " crooked hillary " ........
bluntmassa1
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Hillary Clinton is a fucking racist...
bluntmassa1
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Or because he's not playing with a full deck.
CannaBruh
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That Obama quote from a page back or so, about say anything change nothing... it's strange because I recall the first time hearing Obama speak. It was his red/blue speech, regardless, it had me to tears, he was a great deliverer. He sold me on that speech.
Yet he didn't stop the arrests
He accepted the presidency on a lot of criticism of the previous 8 years
Accepts a peace prize, continues the wars he criticizes
Murders US citizens with no trial via drone strikes
Says Clinton will say anything to change nothing..... yet now he backs her, after changing nothing.
I cannot get behind trump, but I don't see how any left leaning person can objectively sit back and discern a Bush administration from a Clinton from an Obama..
Yet he didn't stop the arrests
He accepted the presidency on a lot of criticism of the previous 8 years
Accepts a peace prize, continues the wars he criticizes
Murders US citizens with no trial via drone strikes
Says Clinton will say anything to change nothing..... yet now he backs her, after changing nothing.
I cannot get behind trump, but I don't see how any left leaning person can objectively sit back and discern a Bush administration from a Clinton from an Obama..
Rob Roy
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UncleBuck
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never heard her calling mexicans rapists and criminals. or that some, she assumes, are good people.
if you think they sound anything alike on immigration you are smoking some good crack.
UncleBuck
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i am not shilling for donald trump though.
UncleBuck
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let's start with the deficit. obama and clinton did everything they could to lower the deficit or wipe it out completely. bush took a surplus and turned it into the most massive deficit of all time.
or how about pointless wars of choice? bush got us into them, obama got us out of them.
maybe equal rights? bush pushed for a constitutional amendment to make gays into second class citizens, obama led the charge that brought us marriage equality nationwide.
and do you think bush would have watched states legalize cannabis and handed them 8 simple rules to follow if they wanted to sell legal recreational cannabis?
if you can't tell the simple differences between the bush administration and the clinton or obama administrations, then you are literally a retarded person.
Big_Lou
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Lot of undeniable facts here.
GardenGnome83
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First, trump doesn't go around claiming to be one of us. He flaunts his wealth.
Hill on the other hand, panders like the little cunt she is, then shows up dressed like Kim jong il.
Fuck trump too.
If you ignore the facts of Hillary's shady past, you are the problem. Don't defend that bitch.
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