Starting Temples

NEEDMMASAP

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They already returned the property, I am just suing still because they kept everything for over 4 months. And when I asked they said the longest it takes to test any number of things is like 2 weeks. So they have no reason to have taken so long and make me miss Holi.
It will take some time to go thru that , like this already . " 6 He who hath store of Herbs at hand like Kings amid a crowd of men,— , suing them may teach them a good lesson , sure hope you win .
 

Finshaggy

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Rudraksha Beads are Holy to the God Rudra, and Shiva is a form of Rudra, which makes them Holy to Shiva. When Marijuana is smoked with Rudraksha beads it becomes something like a prayer and not a recreational activity.


Japa (Sanskrit: जप) is a spiritual discipline involving the meditative repetition of a mantra or name of a divine power. The mantra or name may be spoken softly, enough for the practitioner to hear it, or it may be spoken purely within the reciter's mind. Japa may be performed while sitting in a meditation posture, while performing other activities, or as part of formal worship in group settings.

A Japa mala or Mala (Sanskrit:माला; mālā, meaning garland is a set of beads commonly used by Hindus and Buddhists, usually made from 108 beads, though other numbers are also used. Malas are used for keeping count while reciting, chanting, or mentally repeating a mantra or the name or names of a deity. This practice is known in Sanskrit as japa.
Rudra (/ˈrʊdrə/; Sanskrit: रुद्र) is a Rigvedic deity, associated with wind or storm, and the hunt. The name has been translated as "the roarer". In the Rigveda, Rudra has been praised as the "mightiest of the mighty". The Shri Rudram hymn from the Yajurveda is dedicated to Rudra, and is important in the Saivism sect.

The Hindu god Shiva shares several features with the Rudra: the theonym Shiva originated as an epithet of Rudra, the adjective shiva ("kind") being used euphemistically of Rudra, who also carries the epithet ghora ("extremly terrifying"). Usage of the epithet came to exceed the original theonym by the post-Vedic period (in the Sanskrit Epics), and the name Rudra has been taken as a synonym for the god Shiva and the two names are used interchangeably.



Elaeocarpus ganitrus
Elaeocarpus ganitrus, is a large evergreen broad-leaved tree whose seed is traditionally used for prayer beads in Hinduism and Buddhism. The seeds are known as rudraksha, or rudraksh, Sanskrit: rudrākṣa ("Rudra's eyes"). Rudraksha may be produced by several species of Elaeocarpus, however E. ganitrus is the principal species used in the making of organic jewellery or mala.

Elaeocarpus ganitrus grows in the area from the Gangetic plain in the foothills of the Himalayas to South-East Asia, Nepal, Indonesia, New Guinea to Australia, Guam, and Hawaii. Rudraksha seeds are covered by an outer husk of blue colour when fully ripe, and for this reason are also known as blueberry beads. The blue colour is not derived from pigment but is structural. It is an evergreen tree that grows quickly. The rudraksha tree starts bearing fruit in three to four years. As the tree matures, the roots buttress rising up narrowly near the trunk and radiating out along the surface of the ground.

Vibhuti (vibhūti Sanskrit: विभूति; Bengali: বিভূতি ; Kannada: ವಿಭೂತಿ; Telugu: విభూతి), also called Bhasma (ash), "Viboodhi" (Telugu: విబూది) or Thiruneeru (Tamil: திருநீறு), is a word that has several meanings in Hinduism. Generally, it is used to denote the sacred ash which is made of burnt dried wood in Vedic rituals. Hindu devotees apply vibhuti traditionally as three horizontal lines across the forehead and other parts of the body to please the god Shiva. Vibhuti smeared across the forehead to the end of both eyebrows is called Tripundra.









Followers of Shaivam are called "Shaivas" (also "Saivas", "Shaivites" or "Saivarkal"). They believe that Shiva is All and in all, the creator, preserver, destroyer, revealer and concealer of all that is.

In Hinduism, a sādhu (Sanskrit: साधु sādhu, "good; good man, holy man") is a religious ascetic or holy person. Although the vast majority of sādhus are yogīs, not all yogīs are sādhus. The sādhu is solely dedicated to achieving mokṣa (liberation), the fourth and final aśrama (stage of life), through meditation and contemplation of Brahman. Sādhus often wear saffron-coloured clothing, symbolising their sanyāsa (renunciation). This way of life is open to women; the female form of the word is sādhvī साध्वी.




Pashupati or Shree Pashupatinath (Nepali /Hindi: श्री पशुपतिनाथ) is an incarnation of the Hindu Lord Shiva as "Lord of animals". The five faces of Pashupatinath represent various incarnations of Shiva; Sadyojata (also known as Barun), Vamdeva (also known as Uma Maheswara), Tatpurusha, Aghor & Ishana. They face West, North, East, South and Zenith respectively, and represent Hinduism's five primary elements namely earth, water, air, light and ether.

Puranas describe these faces of Shiva as:
"Sadyojata, Vamdeva, Tatpurusha & Aghora are the four faces,
The fifth is Ishana, unknowable even to the seers"

Ishana (sanskr. Īśāna) - name of aspect of Shiva.

The name Ishana is also mentioned in Shiva Mahapurana as one of five names of the god. Īśāna has its roots in the word "ish", which means the invisible power that governs the universe. The wielder of this power, or this power itself, is "Īśāna". It is synonymous with Ishwar, which means "The Lord". In Hindu Scriptures this is a name given to Shiva. As per Hindu scriptures Shiva has five heads, each denoting one of the five tattvas (elements) namely Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Ether (also called as Sky-element or aakash-tattva in sanskrit) that make up the universe. This fifth head of Shiva faces the upward direction, towards the sky.

Īśāna signifies the subtle ethereal form of Shiva that represents transcendental knowledge. This dimension is reinforced by Vaastu Shastra, which says that Ishanya-disha (north-eastern direction) represents Prosperity and Knowledge. So Īśāna also has a symbolic meaning. In Hindu customs, north represents wealth and happiness while the east symbolizes knowledge and peace; Īśāna is a combination of both. It is also considered to be the name of the god of Vastu Śāstra. the Brahman splits into male (Parashiva) and female (Parasakti) and manifests as the universe. The Parashiva has five aspects:

Sadyojata - west aspect that propagates manifest Brahman-associated with brahma - represents earth.
Vamadeva - north aspect that sustains manifest Brahman - associated with Vishnu - represents water
Aghora - south aspect that rejuvenates manifest Brahman - associated with Rudra - represents fire
Tatpurusha - east aspects Rishi, Muni, Jnani, yogi - represents air
Isana - internal aspect that conceals - associated with all that exist - represents ether

Shila, (शिला in Devanagari, śila in IAST) or Shaligram refers to a fossilized stone used to invoke God, and as a representation of God. Shaligram is usually collected from sacred river beds or on the banks. Shiva worshipers use nearly round or oval shaped Shaligrams to worship as Shiva Linga.
 

Finshaggy

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How did not having any of that stuff prevent you from engaging in Holi? None of what was withheld is required for Holi.

Where do you usually celebrate Holi, and with whom? If they banned you from Holi because of that . . . Well then that wasn't very Holi of them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi
What are you talking about? They took all my powders and plants. How do you celebrate Holi without powders and plants? Most of Holi is just throwing exactly what they took from me, at each other.
 

Finshaggy

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It will take some time to go thru that , like this already . " 6 He who hath store of Herbs at hand like Kings amid a crowd of men,— , suing them may teach them a good lesson , sure hope you win .
It will teach them about Hinduism at the very least.
 

pabloesqobar

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What are you talking about? They took all my powders and plants. How do you celebrate Holi without powders and plants? Most of Holi is just throwing exactly what they took from me, at each other.
Did you read what I posted? None of that is required for Holi. And, you could've simply shared with other Holi participants. Would they not share with you? Who have you celebrated Holi with before? They said you couldn't participate this year?
 

Finshaggy

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Did you read what I posted? None of that is required for Holi. And, you could've simply shared with other Holi participants. Would they not share with you? Who have you celebrated Holi with before? They said you couldn't participate this year?
I came here to start a Temple, it's not like there is just a big Hindu community that will already have it, yet. I was the one who had the supplies.
I was just going to celebrate with people I know here.

But once the Temple gets started, that won't be a problem. And it doesn't really matter, you are still wrong either way. Say they came to the Temple and took everything we had, it doesn't matter if there is another Temple we could borrow from, they took our stuff. You can't just take Religious property and keep in indefinitely, even if the Religious people have a way to get more.
 

Finshaggy

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And nothing I had was illegal, similar to wine. Anyone can legally possess 100 gallons of wine, as long as they aren't selling it. So say they came to a Church and took all of their wine that they use in communion. It doesn't matter if they can make more or get more, it's not illegal and they shouldn't take it unless they want to get sued.
 

pabloesqobar

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I came here to start a Temple, it's not like there is just a big Hindu community that will already have it, yet. I was the one who had the supplies.
I was just going to celebrate with people I know here.

But once the Temple gets started, that won't be a problem. And it doesn't really matter, you are still wrong either way. Say they came to the Temple and took everything we had, it doesn't matter if there is another Temple we could borrow from, they took our stuff. You can't just take Religious property and keep in indefinitely, even if the Religious people have a way to get more.
My only comment was about your insistence that all that crap is required to celebrate Holi. It isn't. Why didn't those other people you were planning on celebrating with join in your lawsuit?
 

Finshaggy

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And I have been Hindu since I was 14, so I don't see why anyone would try to come and tell me what a Hindu is or what a Hindu Holiday means. We can talk about it, but if I say something happens a certain way it's because I've been doing this since I was 14.
 

Finshaggy

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My only comment was about your insistence that all that crap is required to celebrate Holi. It isn't. Why didn't those other people you were planning on celebrating with join in your lawsuit?
They aren't Hindu. And no one took anything from them. They weren't even there when it happened. Why would they be part of the lawsuit?
 

Finshaggy

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My only comment was about your insistence that all that crap is required to celebrate Holi.
That's like saying you don't need a Turkey to celebrate Thanksgiving. Sure you can replace the Turkey with something else, but you are replacing the Turkey. You are supposed to have a Turkey.
 

pabloesqobar

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That's like saying you don't need a Turkey to celebrate Thanksgiving. Sure you can replace the Turkey with something else, but you are replacing the Turkey. You are supposed to have a Turkey.
No offense, but please show me where that's a requirement. How many of these have you done?
 

Finshaggy

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And also, at my job I am the only white guy. Everyone else I work with is either Indian with a Visa, except the Boss, I think he is a citizen. And everyone else we work with (apart from Government agencies, like the DMV or Water Departments, or VA etc) is actually in India, we just communicate online. So I am in regular contact with Indians, it's not like I just made this stuff up. And I have known other Hindus since I was 14.
 

Finshaggy

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No offense, but please show me where that's a requirement. How many of these have you done?
How do you Celebrate the Festival of Color and Sight without the Colors? The powders and the plants make the Colors, you have to have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi
Holi (pronunciation: /ˈhoʊliː/; Sanskrit: होली Holī) is a Hindu spring festival in India[4] and Nepal, also known as the festival of colours or the festival of sharing love.[5][6] Holi is a two-day festival which starts on the Purnima (Full Moon day) falling in the Bikram Sambat Hindu Calendar [7] month of Falgun, which falls somewhere between the end of February and the middle of March in the Gregorian calendar. The first day is known as Holika Dahan or Chhoti Holi and the second as Rangwali Holi, Dhuleti, Dhulandi or Dhulivandan.
 

Finshaggy

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And they took the powders and spices I had for this. And I have had some of the plants for years without any Police stealing them.
 

pabloesqobar

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How do you Celebrate the Festival of Color and Sight without the Colors? The powders and the plants make the Colors, you have to have them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holi
Holi (pronunciation: /ˈhoʊliː/; Sanskrit: होली Holī) is a Hindu spring festival in India[4] and Nepal, also known as the festival of colours or the festival of sharing love.[5][6] Holi is a two-day festival which starts on the Purnima (Full Moon day) falling in the Bikram Sambat Hindu Calendar [7] month of Falgun, which falls somewhere between the end of February and the middle of March in the Gregorian calendar. The first day is known as Holika Dahan or Chhoti Holi and the second as Rangwali Holi, Dhuleti, Dhulandi or Dhulivandan.
Are you suggesting your plants were simply to act as a color?
 
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