HELP.... newbie....

jacksthc

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As i say this is my last plant i chopped dow.,i usually stop indoors a bit earlier in the year and go outdoors with outdoor temps/humidity all over the shop.
I got 119 gram of that big buddha blue cheeze.in the photo cured a couple of month probz about 3oz left.lol
I stuck with pineapple ex. For years but done the auto version and wasnt impressed.
When i come back from amsterdam u can msybe help me out ive 5 green crack,which ive done before and loast coast hashplant also from humbolt so thats 7 under a 600w.depending on the weather outdoors.
ive new 20 l airpots as i wanna learn how to l.s.t propely im weary of choppin/bending too much?and i have done it once using fim and the blackjack to keep height down and in a corner of tent.gonna read up a bit on lst.
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nice buds and 3oz's is not bad mate, would be happy to help you when you get back from amsterdam
 

dazzyballz

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nice buds and 3oz's is not bad mate, would be happy to help you when you get back from amsterdam
Cheers jack,i say i havent had many problems really,just i dont know how to l.s.t and thought that had affected the blackjack.
Yea ill restart and veg. A lot longer ill give em.
Your advice would be much appreciated,when i restart.
 

lesart00

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dazzyballz

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Yea, i started reading the thread from the start yesterday.
your crop looks awesome.
jacksthc seems to have had a good influence on your grow mate.no need for grow books anymore.
cheers
 

lesart00

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Yea, i started reading the thread from the start yesterday.
your crop looks awesome.
jacksthc seems to have had a good influence on your grow mate.no need for grow books anymore.
cheers
he has been amazing.... if it wasnt for him id never have gotten passed seedling.....i dont ask for help from anyone only him.... i have NEVER grown anything before...EVER...so to get to this stage has been down to him....credit where credit is due...
 

dazzyballz

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he has been amazing.... if it wasnt for him id never have gotten passed seedling.....i dont ask for help from anyone only him.... i have NEVER grown anything before...EVER...so to get to this stage has been down to him....credit where credit is due...
Nice 1.the few problems ive had lately,icant find em in a grwbk.
i might be trying to rectify other peoples mistakes without having them myself.time will tell,need to get into lst,ive been a bit weary so far.but that seems like the future indoors.i say i come here for advice so when i get to the lst stage hope you can help me out.thanks peeps.peace out for a month........
 

lesart00

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Nice 1.the few problems ive had lately,icant find em in a grwbk.
i might be trying to rectify other peoples mistakes without having them myself.time will tell,need to get into lst,ive been a bit weary so far.but that seems like the future indoors.i say i come here for advice so when i get to the lst stage hope you can help me out.thanks peeps.peace out for a month........
the 1 thing i learned from jack was to LEAVE them the fuck alone....lol seriously.... only fix what is in front of u.... that old saying...if its not broke dont try and fix it.... water...fed... right lights... thats it.... rest just leave alone.... they are very hard to kill....lol
 

lesart00

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Nice 1.the few problems ive had lately,icant find em in a grwbk.
i might be trying to rectify other peoples mistakes without having them myself.time will tell,need to get into lst,ive been a bit weary so far.but that seems like the future indoors.i say i come here for advice so when i get to the lst stage hope you can help me out.thanks peeps.peace out for a month........
i made soo many mistakes when i started this in jan.... i killed few plants....never checked my tap water PH... the biggest plant i have is 20inchs tall and she was the only plant that survived from 4 plants before i realised my PH was off.... yet she is my tallest and strongest plant now.... also i freaked out when i switched over to flower and they did not stretch.... seriously....went crazy finding out why... until i checked out the plant i was growing..(northern lights) and they are short compact plants...do not grow very tall.... its all about getting the right advice and listening to someone who knows what they are doing....
 

jacksthc

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i was thinking maybe this coming weekend mate...? do u harvest dry...? as in let them dry out before i harvest
This coming weekend sounds good, yes its a good ideal to havest the plants dry (as in its time to water), if the plants get too dry, the plant could wilt and its going to be difficult to remove all the fan leaves

think you said your out of nutes but if not i would not give the plant any grow nutes, just some bloom nutes to help the buds put on weight :)
 

lesart00

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This coming weekend sounds good, yes its a good ideal to havest the plants dry (as in its time to water), if the plants get too dry, the plant could wilt and its going to be difficult to remove all the fan leaves

think you said your out of nutes but if not i would not give the plant any grow nutes, just some bloom nutes to help the buds put on weight :)
have plenty of nutes mate.... was just going to give them plain PH water for rest of the week till harvest...
 

jacksthc

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you can give them water for the last week as the plant should use up all the food in the lower fan leaves
may even give you better results
 

dazzyballz

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i made soo many mistakes when i started this in jan.... i killed few plants....never checked my tap water PH... the biggest plant i have is 20inchs tall and she was the only plant that survived from 4 plants before i realised my PH was off.... yet she is my tallest and strongest plant now.... also i freaked out when i switched over to flower and they did not stretch.... seriously....went crazy finding out why... until i checked out the plant i was growing..(northern lights) and they are short compact plants...do not grow very tall.... its all about getting the right advice and listening to someone who knows what they are doing....
Cheers leshart.ill take anyones advice if it will advance my knowledge.
ive read through the whole thread now'youve done awesome matey'.
Its this l.s.t im bit worried about on my next crop,id love a full canopy of tops,i have done once before but never f.i.m as im weary of hurting the plants.
reading up on the airpots they seem to veg.quicker and have holes in to put paperclips in to tie them down.cheers for the info and good luck everyone.peace
 

jacksthc

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Cheers leshart.ill take anyones advice if it will advance my knowledge.
ive read through the whole thread now'youve done awesome matey'.
Its this l.s.t im bit worried about on my next crop,id love a full canopy of tops,i have done once before but never f.i.m as im weary of hurting the plants.
reading up on the airpots they seem to veg.quicker and have holes in to put paperclips in to tie them down.cheers for the info and good luck everyone.peace
air pots are crap imo
the problem is you can't give the hole root mass a good soak so some of the root mass will stay dry

this is because water will always find the quickest path out the pot and air pots have loads of holes

but with a drip system or dropping the air pots in a larger contain full of water you may get better results who knows lol

I just want to walk in my groom and pore 5 ltrs on each plant and walk out :)

about the lst, i have done it on countless plants mate, its a really good way to train the plants but keep it simple ( most growers go over the top and the results are not good )

the basic way to get the best results from lst

top the plants very young so the plants only have 4-6 shoots on each plant, as they grow you tie them to a length of bamboo to keep all the shoots the same height and evenly spaced out

often i use plant supports as it gives the plants extra support

here an example of my 2 plants in early flower making a large circle of tall shoots round a hps hood so i can drop the light closer to the tops of the canopy and the plants receive loads more light, most growers waste this light on there wall


10" half sphere under the 400w hps will burn the plants but just out side that, there's a sweet spot where my plants will love it so i need to make that shape

hps sweet spot.png


so i have two plants well trained in flower so there about 12 good size shoots making a circle round the sweet spot so i can lower the light to the best height and pull the maxim yield depending on how well i grow the plants :)

but with horizontal hood the sweet spot is more of a oblong shape because the light comes out the side of the bulb and not the ends of the bulb

circle of shoots.jpg

so if i pull this off right my shoots should be 18-24" higher than the middle canopy and i will line the hood up so the lights just above the main shoots
 
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