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AlphaPhase

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Here's the suspended pot mixed strain grow. They're 8 weeks in now so I think I'll be chopping in a week. Just adding back water now and they're fading. Probably the best grow I've had in a while after finally getting rid of the gnarly dud problem :) I'm stoked, 7 strains, one system, it worked out so much better than expected, just to think I almost was going to cull them! :)
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The drip system with the dosido and animal cookies is going ape shit! They were only vegged for 2 weeks and are over 3 feet tall with stems the size of my finger! Stretchy mofos but typical of cookies. Lots of buds sites I'm excited about! This is with the veg plus bloom nutes.
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Here's the DE plants at day 20, man, I can not recommend these double ended lights more! The plants seem to be 7+ days ahead of what they would be under a regular hps. Even with 8 foot ceilings! These are suspended net pots with rockwool blocks and hydroton. The canopy didn't fill in as much as I wanted but not bad especially for having to chop roots off before flower again. I think it will turn out nice
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AlphaPhase

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Oh, I also am switching over my veg to all handwatered rockwool. It'll be much easier when I have to move them. I have all new mamas in blocks now and they will be put on 8" rw blocks when they're ready. I'm loving the rockwool!

Got a batch of animal cookies almost ready to flower on slabs as well for when I chop the mixed batch :)
 

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supdro

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Here's the suspended pot mixed strain grow. They're 8 weeks in now so I think I'll be chopping in a week. Just adding back water now and they're fading. Probably the best grow I've had in a while after finally getting rid of the gnarly dud problem :) I'm stoked, 7 strains, one system, it worked out so much better than expected, just to think I almost was going to cull them! :)
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The drip system with the dosido and animal cookies is going ape shit! They were only vegged for 2 weeks and are over 3 feet tall with stems the size of my finger! Stretchy mofos but typical of cookies. Lots of buds sites I'm excited about! This is with the veg plus bloom nutes.
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Here's the DE plants at day 20, man, I can not recommend these double ended lights more! The plants seem to be 7+ days ahead of what they would be under a regular hps. Even with 8 foot ceilings! These are suspended net pots with rockwool blocks and hydroton. The canopy didn't fill in as much as I wanted but not bad especially for having to chop roots off before flower again. I think it will turn out nice
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Yooo Alpha!!! Lookin good ova there. What kind of yeilds are you getting with the different nutes and systems?
 

AlphaPhase

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Yooo Alpha!!! Lookin good ova there. What kind of yeilds are you getting with the different nutes and systems?
Yo bro! I haven't finished up a recent veg bloom run yet, but the last time I used it I think I got about 28-30 zips under a 1000w with the suspended pots in hydroton, but I also vegged in the buckets then and didn't have to cut any roots. My first 4x4 rockwool flood and drain with cookies got 19 zips with maxi bloom and dud plants. The suspended pots I'm about to chop using maxibloom I'm guessing 1.5 on the light, could be a bit more though because its so much fuller this time, it's a Hella lot more than the 4x4 rockwool maxi sog that's for sure , and the veg bloom nutes I'm only a few weeks in now for the recent grows, but I reckon they will be the best, both the suspended pots and the drip system on the rw slabs. They just exploded, 2 week veg and they look like I vegged 4 weeks, not sure if it's the nutes or the rockwool lol. I'm gonna flower up some animal cookies in a week on 6" Hugo rockwool blocks to compare to the rw slabs.
 

AlphaPhase

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Oh, and I don't want to leave this out. 1 of those cuts I ran in the last run I had with v+b was a heavy yield cut, the purple paralysis. I had 12 plants and 6 were pp, they got 3 zips each, so it was an easy yield. Now since I'm running new cuts, the cookies are much lower yielding, 1.5 would be killer with any cookie cut and ogs under a regular hps bulb. So we'll see what happens, the crop I'm gonna chop in a week, the mendo is heavy, the rest are lighter yielder, I bet close to 40% of the yield will come from the 3 mendos and there are 12 plants. 2nd biggest yield will be from the glue, then the blue petrol that I'm culling most likely, then sherbert, then Bubba, then animal cookies, then black lime ( I think, this is all speculation). Phenos and strains = weight really, so it's impossible to say what something will do if someone is using different cuts, but I do know that v+b >maxi but also 4x the cost. Yield for suspended pots > rw blocks imo but it's close and rw is much easier for me to manage since my back is messed up, so the lesser yield is a trade off. When the suspended pots are dialed, I'd say it's 15%+ more yield than any other growing method I've done, including rockwool which I've never grown in before but I just already know :p
 

AlphaPhase

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This is how I'm doing the next run for a side by side. The 6 animal cookies and 6 dosido that are 3 weeks in flower on the slabs will be going up against 12 animal cookies on 6" Hugo blocks. Both under regular 1000w hps drip systems.

What I do like about these Hugo blocks is I can move the plants around and veg a bit in the blocks before flower. Ill be getting 1 week of veg in them before flower, 6 days veg in the 3x2 block, 6 days veg in the Hugo's, then flip. The batch in flower were fully vegged only in the 3x2 blocks then set on slabs day 1 flower. You can veg in the slabs but it would take up more space and electric plus would be tougher to move out to the flower room. Also, you can't move individual plants and if a plant gets sick, they all do in the same slab. The perks are if a dripper fails, the other drippers keep the plant alive in the slab. With Hugo, if the dripper fails, the plant could die. Then again, you'll have days before that happens and to notice it failed and change it out. So I'm definitely leaning toward the Hugo blocks now. @Aeroknow hooked me up with tons of info and showed me how to set the drip system up and what parts to use. Props!

Now I'm just back to experimenting since I can never stop lol. Next I'll be playing with different kinds of drippers and drip times etc. But for now I want to see the 4 week offset side by side, slabs vs Hugo's

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AlphaPhase

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Side notes for veg+bloom feeding.

Day 1 newly rooted clones get 1-1.1ec
2nd watering gets 1.2ec
3rd watering 1.3ec


I let the rockwool damn near dry out after the first initial watering and 2nd watering, I want the roots to grow out of the blocks.

Then it's a daily watering after until I put the small rw blocks on the Hugo blocks. Run off ec is much higher, around 1.8ec, which I like, they get a rinse when watering then the ec slowly climbs as the rw blocks dry out and then water again, it goes back down.

In flower I am running 1.7-1.9ec for now. Only v+b with hydroguard and pondzyme, no pondzyme on the drip plants (don't want it to clog the drippers).
 

supdro

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This is how I'm doing the next run for a side by side. The 6 animal cookies and 6 dosido that are 3 weeks in flower on the slabs will be going up against 12 animal cookies on 6" Hugo blocks. Both under regular 1000w hps drip systems.

What I do like about these Hugo blocks is I can move the plants around and veg a bit in the blocks before flower. Ill be getting 1 week of veg in them before flower, 6 days veg in the 3x2 block, 6 days veg in the Hugo's, then flip. The batch in flower were fully vegged only in the 3x2 blocks then set on slabs day 1 flower. You can veg in the slabs but it would take up more space and electric plus would be tougher to move out to the flower room. Also, you can't move individual plants and if a plant gets sick, they all do in the same slab. The perks are if a dripper fails, the other drippers keep the plant alive in the slab. With Hugo, if the dripper fails, the plant could die. Then again, you'll have days before that happens and to notice it failed and change it out. So I'm definitely leaning toward the Hugo blocks now. @Aeroknow hooked me up with tons of info and showed me how to set the drip system up and what parts to use. Props!

Now I'm just back to experimenting since I can never stop lol. Next I'll be playing with different kinds of drippers and drip times etc. But for now I want to see the 4 week offset side by side, slabs vs Hugo's

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Ummm freakin share..lol aero tell us too. I can set one up but cant get down drip times for example soil. Been using 15 min timers with hydroton in drip systems
 

AlphaPhase

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Ummm freakin share..lol aero tell us too. I can set one up but cant get down drip times for example soil. Been using 15 min timers with hydroton in drip systems
Drip until runoff, that's about it brother. I use digital minute timers. They have about 20 inputs for time, so you can drip for 1 minute or 100 minutes. I'm still tinkering with the drip amounts, I started with 1x a day, but now I'm at 2-3x a day (I keep playing with it lol). With my pump, I get run off after 30 seconds so I run it for the minimum if 1 minute cycles, 2 or 3x a day. This is for rockwool though, soil would be different, or bigger pots of coco would take longer to get run off, etc. That's the best tip @Aeroknow gave me, just run the pump on the timer longer enough for run off, then add 2x the time. So if you get runoff at 1 minute, then run pump for 2 min, or for me, I get run off at 30 seconds (big fast pump) so I run it for 1 min. But I reckon this wouldn't hold true for something that takes 5 minutes to get run off, you wouldn't want to run it for 10 min (this is speculation, I don't know but that sound ridiculous lol).

The timer I use, Aero also told me about a year or two ago. To the BEST minute timer I've used. It's pretty cheap, easy to use and program etc and it doesn't screw up or die all the time like the other 100 different timers I've used over the years.

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AlphaPhase

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I finally got around to getting a tray, dome etc for cuts. Had my first successful baby bloom! I used the root plugs and humidity dome and popped a sunset sherbert x gg4 cut in there and 7 days later the baby got its first roots! I'm stoked :)

I dunked the plug in nutrient solution with 1.0 ec of v+b and hydroguard and then put it in the tray with the dome on it and the dome vents closed. Misted the dome every other day and the cuts every couple of days if I noticed dropping, and 7 days later, bingo! One of my cloners has been giving me hassle, so I figured I'd have a backup in case something goes wrong. Damn clones in my #2 cloner won't root, but those cuts were off my soil plants, so maybe soil clones take longer to root, not sure, but it made me a bit uneasy so I tried something new, and it worked! Woot
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AlphaPhase

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It's so close to the chop for the suspended hydroton pot grow, the buds are starting to lean lile a mofo. Probably give them another 5 days or so and get to the snipping. This was with the maxibloom, Epsom, hydroguard and pond zyme only. 4x4 rockwool blocks on 1 gal pot of hydroton suspended over 2 gallon ebb n grow buckets. By far my best run in a while I think :)
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I had to show this because my minds blown! This is day 22 for the double ended suspended pot grow, and I just can't believe the size of the buds growing, or the resin rails forming! It blows my mind that the DE make that much difference. The drip system with the slabs aren't even close to what the DE is putting out, too wild!
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eastcoastmo

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It's so close to the chop for the suspended hydroton pot grow, the buds are starting to lean lile a mofo. Probably give them another 5 days or so and get to the snipping. This was with the maxibloom, Epsom, hydroguard and pond zyme only. 4x4 rockwool blocks on 1 gal pot of hydroton suspended over 2 gallon ebb n grow buckets. By far my best run in a while I think :)
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I had to show this because my minds blown! This is day 22 for the double ended suspended pot grow, and I just can't believe the size of the buds growing, or the resin rails forming! It blows my mind that the DE make that much difference. The drip system with the slabs aren't even close to what the DE is putting out, too wild!
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Wow bro, I'm just blown away, you just go from strength to strength! :clap: :clap:
 
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