How Old is Too Old

Craftybiatch

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How old is too old when using trim ?

If trim is clean, no mould, good quality is it possible to pull some decent bubble from, say, 6 months worth ?
 

Fadedawg

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It depends on how its stored, of course. The drier it gets, the less aromatic and flavorful.

The terpenes are all aromatic hydrocarbons, and the mono terpenes readily sublimate away far below their boiling points, which is why they can stink up everything around them, even double bagged.

The mono-terpenes sublimate away with the water and the essential oil extract becomes less aromatic and tastes more phenolic, because the majority of the essential oil is the diterpene fraction, aka the cannabinoids, which are phenolic terpenoids.

Floral, piney, citrus, etc, are C-10 monoterpenes and C-15 sesqui-terpenes. The C-30 tri-terpene flavonoids will also be present, and add some flavor, but not much in the way of aromatics.

Also of consideration is the color. The C-30 anthro cyanin plant pigments darken as they breakdown with age, so the same material extracted at drying day 90, will produce a noticeably darker concentrate, than when prime at about day 5/7 properly hung and dried.

Oxygen and UV both break down the terpenoids, so the best way I've found to store material is either fresh frozen for live extract, or dried to jarring moisture levels before bagging and freezing.

Bagging, vacuum purging, and nitrogen back filling will eliminate most of the oxygen, iff'n ya'll don't have freezing capacity.

Keep it in a cool dark place and if you aren't going to freeze it, you will have to dry it at least enough to prevent molding.
 

Craftybiatch

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It depends on how its stored, of course. The drier it gets, the less aromatic and flavorful.

The terpenes are all aromatic hydrocarbons, and the mono terpenes readily sublimate away far below their boiling points, which is why they can stink up everything around them, even double bagged.

The mono-terpenes sublimate away with the water and the essential oil extract becomes less aromatic and tastes more phenolic, because the majority of the essential oil is the diterpene fraction, aka the cannabinoids, which are phenolic terpenoids.

Floral, piney, citrus, etc, are C-10 monoterpenes and C-15 sesqui-terpenes. The C-30 tri-terpene flavonoids will also be present, and add some flavor, but not much in the way of aromatics.

Also of consideration is the color. The C-30 anthro cyanin plant pigments darken as they breakdown with age, so the same material extracted at drying day 90, will produce a noticeably darker concentrate, than when prime at about day 5/7 properly hung and dried.

Oxygen and UV both break down the terpenoids, so the best way I've found to store material is either fresh frozen for live extract, or dried to jarring moisture levels before bagging and freezing.

Bagging, vacuum purging, and nitrogen back filling will eliminate most of the oxygen, iff'n ya'll don't have freezing capacity.

Keep it in a cool dark place and if you aren't going to freeze it, you will have to dry it at least enough to prevent molding.
Thanks so much for this info.
 

Gquebed

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What i noticed from old weed, aside from obvious taste loss, is that the high doesnt last as long. The potency remains but it just doesnt keep me high. And i found that if hash or oil is made with old weed...same thing...good high, but short...
 

Mr.GreenJeans

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6 months old?? No problem. I regularly save up my trimmings from multiple grows for over a year at times before I make a big 'ol batch. BUT, I must admit the prettiest, tastiest blonde hash came from trim frozen and bubblebagged within a week of finishing hanging.
 

Michiganjesse

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What i noticed from old weed, aside from obvious taste loss, is that the high doesnt last as long. The potency remains but it just doesnt keep me high. And i found that if hash or oil is made with old weed...same thing...good high, but short...
I have noticed that making edibles with some almost year old kief. High was great but short lived
 

qwizoking

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degradation of THC due to oxidation I would believe is the culprit
to expand slightly, cbd being more stable.. even a marked loss in thc (doubtful) would actually increase duration, if taking more to get to desired levels..
ive always seen and heard opposite about duration and "cure" length..
a more probable scenario is loss of certain terps in improper storage
 

Michiganjesse

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to expand slightly, cbd being more stable.. even a marked loss in thc (doubtful) would actually increase duration, if taking more to get to desired levels..
ive always seen and heard opposite about duration and "cure" length..
a more probable scenario is loss of certain terps in improper storage
This could be tyne kief was not stored properly. I normally store in a humidor but it wasn't
 
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