Hotshot123
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Has anyone ever use any Bud Candy? I just got some today, and the direction aren't to clear. I was wondering if you could use it with your feeding of NPK, or would you use on another day, and not at the same time? 
BUD CANDY
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Southerner
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Mixing together is fine
MistaRasta
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Bud candy is now potassium sulfate (used to be magnesium sulfate.) Being it has the 72 trace minerals included, its safe to assume its kelp meal extract, or 'seaweed extract' diluted and bottled.
Id save some money and secondary benefits by brewing up a kelp meal tea. 1 TBSP per gallon and voila, candy.
Id save some money and secondary benefits by brewing up a kelp meal tea. 1 TBSP per gallon and voila, candy.
Hotshot123
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Right now I am using Maxi Bloom 5-14-15, and Kool Bloom 2-45-28 along with the Bud Candy I just bought. How would you rate the Ph-Perfect to these products? 6 weeks from 12 12 flip Wednesday. Lemon Kush. In Soil. And which one would you recommend on my next grow, the two part, or the 3 part? Thanks
Mixing together is fine
MistaRasta
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I know this wasnt pointed towards me but this isnt in any way shape or form even close to organic growing. You may be growing in soil, but youre using it as a dead substrate rather than its intended purpose of balancing nutes/minerals and housing a vast biological system of bacteria and fungi to work symbiotically with your plant to get it what it needs. Youre just force feeding with Maxi bloom and kool bloom.
And fyi, no matter what AN or the hydro store guy tells you, bud candy is not organic. All the preservatives and leftover residue from extractants is enough to wipe out a few of my microbes. AN= No No in my Op
Im done.
Im sure more people can help you in the hydro section. good luck
MistaRasta
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Mixing together is fine
'Grand Master' grower level.
LMAO, What a scam.
One day ill have cash cropped my way from 'hobbyist' to 'Grand Master.' Not by learning anything but simply by spending large sums of money on An's ridiculous marketing schemes.
One Day..
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Hotshot123
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So, are you saying that the PH Perfect isn't any good either? Can you explian to me how to grow A Proper Organic grow with the proper Organic Fertz? Thanks.'Grand Master' grower level.
LMAO, What a scam.
One day ill have cash cropped my way from 'hobbyist' to 'Grand Master.' Not by learning anything but simply by spending large sums of money on An's ridiculous marketing schemes.
One Day..
MeJuana
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You save the leaves and grass clippings that fall into your yard. You mix in some other organic amendments and cook it all together this is called composting. This makes super soil you use this for your flowering phase. For veg you can use bagged organic soils such as Roots Organic or a lessor mix you made yourself. When moving to flower you put the super soil on the bottom third of the container then fill the rest in with Roots Organic or your version of it. The roots will grow down into the super soil providing all the elements the plant needs. The huge advantage is the fact that plants excrete exudates which attract the specific fungi&bacteria to their root system to provide exactly the nutrients they need exactly when they need it. (Sometimes too well, this is what fine tuning is about)
Here's a thread on making additives to give you an idea how easy, cheap and wholesome it is.. (This is not super soil it's additives like Calcium)
http://rollitup.org/t/from-scratch-only-no-premixed-bottles-of-stuff.873531/
Hotshot123
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Thanks for the information. What do you think of using Sensi Bloom A+B? or do you just let it grow in the compost that you make and nothing else?
MeJuana
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Just organic soil and the compost if you need anything else you can add it organically as it is described in the stickies here, by members as I linked an example earlier and of course Google. In addition there are sticky posts at the top in this section and the subcool section that I refer to regularly and I've read all of those. By the way you can buy compost locally and most the time you can find all the ingredients locally also there's many threads on people doing that so just search it. So if you want to use Sensi which are chemical salts don't mix it with organic soil. Perhaps foliar spray but I don't do that I have too many plants so they need to be healthy on their own.
greasemonkeymann
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good advice.
Keep up spreading good information.
MistaRasta
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It can be good, just depends on who youre talking to. I personally dont use any bottled nutrients as i dont see a need to. I let my plant present itself as naturally as possible.
When people ask me which organic ferts to use i often cant answer. It depends on what youre after, are you looking to throw your soil out each round or recycle? Are you wanting to do water only?
Hotshot123
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I have earth grow organic, and Naturer Best organic, and black Kow. I just do a small outdoor grow during the spring, about 3 plants, and one in side. Is there anything else I should mix with it with, like extra horse, blood meal and stuff like that are is it just good by it self? Thanks
Rasta Roy
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Me meeting another grower for the first time...
Other Grower: "I grow organic too! What nutes do you use??"
Me: "........"
MistaRasta
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Bare with me as these products could be made locally 20 minutes outside of town by joe blow the farmer, therefore i might know notta about them..
Im guessing the 'Earth Gro' is Earth Juice grow?.. The bottled nutrient?
As for the 'Natures Best' upon a quick search i could only find sources linking to a feed store catering to farm animals, and a mulch company in TN..What are you using specifically from this brand?
As for the black kow, it ain't great, but it'll do as a humus source. The only thing im worried about with black kow are the sodium levels (they dont turn their poo enough.)When the sodium levels get higher than potassium levels your plant will literally fall over, shrivel up and die.
Ill have to wait for your answer but i dont see any type of substrate like peat or coco. Is the black kow compost, or their soil mix?
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MistaRasta
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Hotshot123
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Earth grow, and Nature Best are found at wallMart. They are the one's that sponser (P Allen Smith Show), if you don't know who he is, he is a Botmast in the USA, the earth grow is really cheap only $1.97 for a 1 cu ft bag, and the Natures Best 1 cu bag, for $5.97. I haven't use the Nautres Best as of yet, but will on my next gow. The earth grow works well with a lot of horse, Lime, and Black Kow mix with it. You'll will have to firgive my spelling. I have never been able to find any Organic Fertz, every thing I buy people say really isn't Organic. Right now I am talking with the PH Perfect company, and they recommened me to use the Sensi A+B. But from what I understand, it isn't organic either. So, I am a little confuse on where to buy Organic Fertz. Is the B52 Organic?
Rasta Roy
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Secret #1Lol,
That awkward moment when a bottle grower asks you 'your secret.'
If someone works at a growstore, they don't know what they're talking about.
Rasta Roy
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Organic fertilizers don't come in bottles... They're dry in bags or boxes, usually called amendments and take time to break down to become available to the plant. A lot of organic growers have their own worm bins and compost piles that we use to break stuff down...then we'll use the resulting compost and worm castings to fertilize our plants. Others will buy a potting soil, mix it with amendments, let it cook (they mean compost but most don't know it lol) for four to eight weeks, and then put their plants in it.
Basically, it can be hard to grow truly organic without some prep time put into your process.
If you don't have the space or desire to worm bin or make compost then I would recommend buying worm castings, seabird and Bat Guano, and kelp. All can be applied as a top dressing with readily available nutrients. There's plenty of online retailers if you don't have a local growstore.
Hotshot123
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Here is a picture of the Earth Grow, I want have a Bag of Natures Best until next month after pay day. This stuff Crumbles up when you smash it with your hands, I believe this is a sign that it has Clay in it. I have cut down a lot of oaks trees, and cut them up, and put them under about a ft of top soil. I understand that they want be ready until about 3 years. The picture of pile of wood is how much wood I have in each of the plots I have pictures of. I have one more to make, but these want be ready for planting for 3 years. haha Also a picture of my Lemon Kush in just earth grow a little horse, and some lime and black kow. She has 20 tops and doing very well. Thanks, I have look into those, but or a little expense for me at time.