Jill Stein endorsements

[Rob Roy]

I think she means 'free' college like 'free' willy... I didnt know college was confined.

Jill Stein is a smiling economic imbecilic thug.

None of her policies rely on voluntary participation, they all rely on government force, like Bernie's , Hillary's and Trumpty Dumpty's.

Jill Stein abuses the word "free" and thinks consensus to commit theft magically makes it acceptable.

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[abandonconflict]

Bernie is going to be Clintons Veep.

Additionally, according to DNC rules, he would/could lose his delegates if he even gives Stein so much as a phone call.

Actually, he's the Democrat Party's sheepdog. He's there to get as many of the low info pseudoprogressives to stay with the Democrat Party as he can. You go ahead and vote for the evil of two lessers and I will criticize you for it for a few years while the status quo continues. I never considered voting for a democrat again after I voted Obama in 08 and I'm not about to start.

To be honest, I am giving you too much credit if you vote for Hillary Clinton. You won't be voting lesser evil, you'll be voting because it's Bernie selling you to her. I can respect the so-called pragmatists, but not the people who are literally being sold by Bernie Sanders. This is fair warning, no crying when I troll you relentlessly. I'm going to hit you mostly on foreign policy, but also particularly on the fact that every thing you call %80 platform changes, are actually shit Hillary has supported all along. Berniecrats are going to get it worse than Pawlbots ever did.

 

[abandonconflict]

I like that she has mentioned reeling in the USA's military empire. She says one of her goals is "free college".

These two are related, and answer your next question.

Would that mean nobody that works at the colleges would be paid and all the staff would be there cuz they just love to give away their time for nothing?

Oh wait nevermind, your next question was retarded, I gave you credit and thought you'd ask how she'd pay for it, instead you asked a dumb question that didn't follow from anything she ever said, but instead from your extremist right wing pedophile mind.

 

[Rob Roy]

These two are related, and answer your next question.


Oh wait nevermind, your next question was retarded, I gave you credit and thought you'd ask how she'd pay for it, instead you asked a dumb question that didn't follow from anything she ever said, but instead from your extremist right wing pedophile mind.

I see that the only way you can "debate" with me is by changing the topic and avoiding the question. Too bad, you're a pretty smart guy and sometimes come close to identifying problems, while often fucking up what the solutions are though.

I'll overlook your unfounded accusations and ask a few more questions.


How will Jill Stein pay for her great ideas ?


If an Anarchist is opposed to a central authority, why are you, Anarchist, championing a person to be a central authority ?

 

[abandonconflict]

I see that the only way you can "debate" with me is by changing the topic and avoiding the question. Too bad, you're a pretty smart guy and sometimes come close to identifying problems, while often fucking up what the solutions are though.

I'll overlook your unfounded accusations and ask a few more questions.

Deciphering...

"Broken record of nonsequitur rhetorical bullshit unrelated to thread in attempt to derail its topic... How come you don't answer my dumb ass bullshit?"

You want to derail my thread? Fine, I'll just put Jill Stein propaganda everywhere.

My accusations are not unfounded. You have spent years on this forum supporting such lunacy as:
"Children can consent to sex with adults"
"I should have the right to racially discriminate"
"Civil rights are literally rape"
"Taxes are literally slavery"

I no longer find you worth answering and so you should not ever again expect to be taken seriously by me unless I see an argument from you I have not seen before. You don't deserve to be taken seriously for several reasons.

Firstly, you argue from a position that assumes the world actually exists the way you wish it would when it does not and never again will revert to despite that you're the only one who wishes it did exist such a way (feudalism).

Secondly, all of your arguments that you have posited regarding this world view have been thoroughly debunked repeatedly and such that it is clear that you're a troll and a unique case of delusional right wing extremist fervor (for several years).

Thirdly, You have not addressed in any way shape or form the very direct and concise accusations leveled against you by about half a dozen members which are indeed very well founded and based on your years of repetitively spewing the same nonsense ad nauseum (not even entertaining).

Fourthly, you know your posts are bullshit and yet you continue with it. You do so in a way that balls up multiple interconnected fallacies and assumptions such that picking it apart and answering requires a long post and you do this as an attack, so that you are either stealing one's time or taunting that they will not answer you, when in fact you have not said anything new in years but have been debunked on ALL of your played out arguments multiple times by at least half a dozen people.

Last but not least, your memes fucking suck bro. It doesn't reflect well on this site and draws cred away from the rest of us. You may think your bullshit makes the forum better but it doesn't. We actually don't want to talk about pedos and Jim Crow anymore, we do it because you're here spreading your nonsense.

How will Jill Stein pay for her great ideas ?

Huge pentagon cuts, which is why an anarchist supports her, she is the only one who will.

 

[NLXSK1]

All those unemployed soldiers will have free healthcare and college though!!!

 

[desert dude]

Shes aged beautifully. Simply stunning.

I will admit that Jill is an attractive woman. So are most Hollywood actors and actresses, and most of them are completely disconnected from the real world.

On the flip side, Jill at least seems to be an honest person, though not very smart about how a country and a free market works.

 

[NLXSK1]

I will admit that Jill is an attractive woman. So are most Hollywood actors and actresses, and most of them are completely disconnected from the real world.

On the flip side, Jill at least seems to be an honest person, though not very smart about how a country and a free market works.

Our best choice is an honest fool?

She seems pretty sure of herself...

 

[desert dude]

Our best choice is an honest fool?

She seems pretty sure of herself...

I honestly don't know what our best choice is. Hillary is utter scum. Trump is a scoundrel, and I am not convinced he even wants to be president. Sanders is a loon. Jill is an empty headed, attractive woman.

I am voting for Gary Johnson. Everybody loves a rising Johnson!

 

[abandonconflict]

free market works.

No it doesn't.

 

[Rob Roy]

Deciphering...

"Broken record of nonsequitur rhetorical bullshit unrelated to thread in attempt to derail its topic... How come you don't answer my dumb ass bullshit?"

You want to derail my thread? Fine, I'll just put Jill Stein propaganda everywhere.

My accusations are not unfounded. You have spent years on this forum supporting such lunacy as:
"Children can consent to sex with adults"
"I should have the right to racially discriminate"
"Civil rights are literally rape"
"Taxes are literally slavery"

I no longer find you worth answering and so you should not ever again expect to be taken seriously by me unless I see an argument from you I have not seen before. You don't deserve to be taken seriously for several reasons.

Firstly, you argue from a position that assumes the world actually exists the way you wish it would when it does not and never again will revert to despite that you're the only one who wishes it did exist such a way (feudalism).

Secondly, all of your arguments that you have posited regarding this world view have been thoroughly debunked repeatedly and such that it is clear that you're a troll and a unique case of delusional right wing extremist fervor (for several years).

Thirdly, You have not addressed in any way shape or form the very direct and concise accusations leveled against you by about half a dozen members which are indeed very well founded and based on your years of repetitively spewing the same nonsense ad nauseum (not even entertaining).

Fourthly, you know your posts are bullshit and yet you continue with it. You do so in a way that balls up multiple interconnected fallacies and assumptions such that picking it apart and answering requires a long post and you do this as an attack, so that you are either stealing one's time or taunting that they will not answer you, when in fact you have not said anything new in years but have been debunked on ALL of your played out arguments multiple times by at least half a dozen people.

Last but not least, your memes fucking suck bro. It doesn't reflect well on this site and draws cred away from the rest of us. You may think your bullshit makes the forum better but it doesn't. We actually don't want to talk about pedos and Jim Crow anymore, we do it because you're here spreading your nonsense.

Huge pentagon cuts, which is why an anarchist supports her, she is the only one who will.

No, I've spent lots of time here saying human interactions should be on a voluntary basis and only people who are capable of consenting to something can consent to it. Which part of that do you dislike?

My position is the one a person who recognizes forcible central authorities are bad, would take. You claim to hold that position then contradict yourself by going all communist authoritarian.

You've also engaged in innuendo to try to portray me erroneously as a vile person, which is a lot like being a douche bag.

Thank you for letting me know why you support the imbecile Jill Stein, if she cut the pentagon budget that would be a good thing.

So anyway, what is property and who can own it ?

 

[abandonconflict]

All those unemployed soldiers will have free healthcare and college though!!!

Actually, part of the Green New Deal is to build a massive renewable energy infrastructure which will put tens of millions of people to work which will in turn create huge gains of aggregate demand driving the economy to new heights and creating yet more jobs.

 

[desert dude]

No it doesn't.

Cuba and Venezuela might argue otherwise.

The rise of the United States over the last century is an example of the wealth creating power of free markets.

Yes, I know, the US is not a totally free market, probably none are. Politicians become politicians for a reason, after all.

The Nordic countries that the lefties seem to idolize are moving away from their socialist models.

 

[abandonconflict]

Cuba and Venezuela might argue otherwise.

The rise of the United States over the last century is an example of the wealth creating power of free markets.

Yes, I know, the US is not a totally free market, probably none are. Politicians become politicians for a reason, after all.

The Nordic countries that the lefties seem to idolize are moving away from their socialist models.

Cuba and Venezuela are both victims of economic imperialism. The rise of the United States over the last century is due to New Deal economics, while the degradation and theft of said growth has been a result of trickle down economics (deregulation) which is a better name than "free-market" since "free-market" is an oxymoron which describes a non existent thing which doesn't even work in theory. The Nordic countries, which are veritable utopian societies, will come to regret trickle down reforms.

 

[desert dude]

Actually, part of the Green New Deal is to build a massive renewable energy infrastructure which will put tens of millions of people to work which will in turn create huge gains of aggregate demand driving the economy to new heights and creating yet more jobs.

Renewable energy is a failure. Any product that has to be under written by tax payer money is clearly not competitive.

Renewable energy, unless you mean nuclear fission, won't support an electricity grid. Insert too much renewable energy and the grid will crash because RE is not "dispatchable". Maybe fusion in the future, but for now that is mostly science fiction.

I am all for nuclear generation. It has problems, but none are insurmountable.

 

[desert dude]

Cuba and Venezuela are both victims of economic imperialism. The rise of the United States over the last century is due to New Deal economics, while the degradation and theft of said growth has been a result of trickle down economics (deregulation) which is a better name than "free-market" since "free-market" is an oxymoron which describes a non existent thing which doesn't even work in theory. The Nordic countries, which are veritable utopian societies, will come to regret trickle down reforms.

You sound like an angry teenager wearing a Che Gueverra tee shirt.

Cuba and Venezuela are models of socialism. Venezuela sits on a huge oil deposit and managed to descend into poverty and chaos. That takes real socialist skills to pull off.

 

[abandonconflict]

Renewable energy is a failure. Any product that has to be under written by tax payer money is clearly not competitive.

Renewable energy, unless you mean nuclear fission, won't support an electricity grid. Insert too much renewable energy and the grid will crash because RE is not "dispatchable". Maybe fusion in the future, but for now that is mostly science fiction.

I am all for nuclear generation. It has problems, but none are insurmountable.

Fossil fuels are the most heavily subsidized commodity in the world and the demand for them directly correlates with wars and environmental destruction. I do not find it odd therefore that there is also a direct correlation with being a right wing mouthbreathing fuck stick and denying science, since one must exclude said facts from their world view in order to believe the nonsense emanating from the gaping holes in the faces of their economically illiterate corporate fascist politicians they follow, such as Gary Johnson and Donald Trump.

 

[NLXSK1]

Actually, part of the Green New Deal is to build a massive renewable energy infrastructure which will put tens of millions of people to work which will in turn create huge gains of aggregate demand driving the economy to new heights and creating yet more jobs.

It has driven other countries into massive recession and unemployment.

And green energy kills birds by the millions...

I am not against renewable fuels as soon as they become competitive in the market place without subsidies.

And to make the playing field fair I am suggesting eliminating subsidies on everything including wind, solar and ethanol along with oil, natural gas, etc. Lets really make things fair and see what works in the competitive market place.

Fossil fuels are limited and will eventually force change regardless of other desires.

 

[desert dude]

Fossil fuels are the most heavily subsidized commodity in the world and the demand for them directly correlates with wars and environmental destruction. I do not find it odd therefore that there is also a direct correlation with being a right wing mouthbreathing fuck stick and denying science, since one must exclude said facts from their world view in order to believe the nonsense emanating from the gaping holes in the faces of their economically illiterate corporate fascist politicians they follow, such as Gary Johnson and Donald Trump.

Fortunately for some, the productive segment of American society throw off enough productivity to allow idle philosophers to condemn their initiative.

 

[abandonconflict]

Cuba and Venezuela are models of socialism. Venezuela sits on a huge oil deposit and managed to descend into poverty and chaos. That takes real socialist skills to pull off.

Despite the crushing economic sanctions imposed against Cuba, they still manage to beat the world's richest country in almost all categories of human happiness and prosperity.

I don't know if you live on earth, but maybe you're just dumb and not aware that Merica likes to victimize countries with oil. If having oil correlated with having a great economy, there would be a few other rich countries, but you're leaving out the part where they must also have America as a happy customer. Venezuela doesn't. I'm surprised you fail to grasp this simple fact of economics, since you prattle endlessly about the subject.