The Tamir Rice Story: How to Make a Police Shooting Disappear

GroDank101

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What is making our police look bad to the rest of the world trying to accomplish? Where are they going with this? It seems like the only thing that comes from it is police blood. See anything wrong with that picture?
 

ThickStemz

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Clark had studied all of the available evidence in this case—video, witness statements, forensic reconstructions—and he had prepared a report detailing his findings. He did not believe the officers acted reasonably, and he did not believe the shooting was justified.
This is one person's opinion. The facts are the facts. The kid was pulling the gun from his waistline.

You seem to ignore that because you feel a cop should be able to discerne a kid from a threat. But you aren't a cop. They see everything as a potential threat. So when they pull up quickly on a sceene, the first things that are seen and given importance over all other concerns is that a gun is being removed by someone you're driving up on. You're only driving up on him because you were told someone was acting crazy with a gun.

Of course he got shot. Who's bright idea was it to buy this kid a mock weapon like that? This wasn't a toy gun like a nerf gun, this was like made to resemble a gun metal dark gun shaped hunk of steel. In da hood!!
 

testiclees

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This is one person's opinion. The facts are the facts. The kid was pulling the gun from his waistline.

You seem to ignore that because you feel a cop should be able to discerne a kid from a threat. But you aren't a cop. They see everything as a potential threat. So when they pull up quickly on a sceene, the first things that are seen and given importance over all other concerns is that a gun is being removed by someone you're driving up on. You're only driving up on him because you were told someone was acting crazy with a gun.

Of course he got shot. Who's bright idea was it to buy this kid a mock weapon like that? This wasn't a toy gun like a nerf gun, this was like made to resemble a gun metal dark gun shaped hunk of steel. In da hood!!
Youre a spineless weasel, half witted apologist. Your post sounds like an idiot child rambling on about his call of duty missions.
 

bearkat42

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This is one person's opinion. The facts are the facts. The kid was pulling the gun from his waistline.

You seem to ignore that because you feel a cop should be able to discerne a kid from a threat. But you aren't a cop. They see everything as a potential threat. So when they pull up quickly on a sceene, the first things that are seen and given importance over all other concerns is that a gun is being removed by someone you're driving up on. You're only driving up on him because you were told someone was acting crazy with a gun.

Of course he got shot. Who's bright idea was it to buy this kid a mock weapon like that? This wasn't a toy gun like a nerf gun, this was like made to resemble a gun metal dark gun shaped hunk of steel. In da hood!!
I saw the video. They shot the kid within 2 seconds of their arrival. Pulling a gun? Unless you believe that this kid was Doc Holiday, he didn't have time. The fucking cop that shot never should have been on the force anyway. Which is, ironically, exactly why he got away with it.
 

NLXSK1

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I saw the video. They shot the kid within 2 seconds of their arrival. Pulling a gun? Unless you believe that this kid was Doc Holiday, he didn't have time. The fucking cop that shot never should have been on the force anyway. Which is, ironically, exactly why he got away with it.
Yes, that is the point. The police did not want to give him time to get off a shot.

The cop didnt 'get away' with anything. He faced a grand jury which did not indict him.

Why was the kid alone in a park with a fake gun?
 

bluntmassa1

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Yes, that is the point. The police did not want to give him time to get off a shot.

The cop didnt 'get away' with anything. He faced a grand jury which did not indict him.

Why was the kid alone in a park with a fake gun?
Toy gun it's not like he had a replica and drew on cops.

It was more like what Hitlery said " We came, we saw, he died. Hahaha" well I'm laughing too at the dead pigs.
 

NLXSK1

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Toy gun it's not like he had a replica and drew on cops.

It was more like what Hitlery said " We came, we saw, he died. Hahaha" well I'm laughing too at the dead pigs.
Yes, it was a replica. The red tip was still in his pants when he got shot I imagine.

Glad you are laughing that cops are going to be more trigger happy and likely to kill civilians. Your attempt at logic is insanity at best. You are happy that things are getting worse.

Your attitude makes me sick and sad. Something went wrong with you along the way.
 

bluntmassa1

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Yes, it was a replica. The red tip was still in his pants when he got shot I imagine.

Glad you are laughing that cops are going to be more trigger happy and likely to kill civilians. Your attempt at logic is insanity at best. You are happy that things are getting worse.

Your attitude makes me sick and sad. Something went wrong with you along the way.
I hope pigs get more trigger happy then the people will get more trigger happy and eventually we will storm Congress and Fort Knox. I'm not down for living in a fascist nation. Your anger is a gift.

 

NLXSK1

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I hope pigs get more trigger happy then the people will get more trigger happy and eventually we will storm Congress and Fort Knox. I'm not down for living in a fascist nation. Your anger is a gift.

I didnt say I was angry, I am nauseous at your attitude and ignorance. You are a cancer, at war with the very society that benefits you.
 

bluntmassa1

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I didnt say I was angry, I am nauseous at your attitude and ignorance. You are a cancer, at war with the very society that benefits you.
All this government did was put us in debt, killed innocent people around the world without my consent, started war after war, oppressed the African, Indian, South American etc. Etc. nations around the world. Killed Ghadafi because they wanted a gold based currency in Africa so the people can live decent lives like in America. Africa has all the resources and food it will ever need yet between the US and NATO we have oppressed these people Africans deserve the money for their own diamonds not Debears which has nothing to do with Africa other than stealing precious stones.

The Columbians who can't walk in the forest without fears of stepping on land mines provided by the CIA in the Iran Contra scandal.

The government pushing drugs into black communities it ain't just Rick Ross black people don't bring the drugs in the government of the USA does it and then puts them and us in prison when the real kingpin is inside the US government.

High crime neighborhoods are set up to be high crime neighborhoods by the federal government. Whitey Bulger was not a rat the FBI worked for him.

Open your fucking eyes this is a machine to control the masses. They have authorized drone use on we the people long before the Dallas shooter giving the government authority to be judge, jury and executioner. They can also send us to Guantanamo Bay indefinitely without trial. We are living in tyranny!!

Our money is not even American they give us Federal Reserve Notes not backed by anything it is a privately owned international bank.

We start war with Afghanistan over a Saudi Arabian national make them the #1 producer of opium and not long after 9/11 the price of heroin dropped significantly. Saddam's crime was trading oil for Euro's not the World Reserve currency!

It is a shame we have Americans like you who side with government and police 100% of the time.

I don't forgive I don't forget until Leonard Pelletier, Edward Snowden, Bradley Manning and many others are free and we stop oppressing 3rd world nations, end the Drug War, end DEA I will not respect the government in which is leading us into the worst war in human history!! We the people need to gain access to all classified documents and hang many politicians for war crimes!!

We will see WW3 if we the people sit back and watch! We need a revolution and we need it now before it's too late cause once the nukes fly it's end game for majority of the world's population.
 

NLXSK1

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While you are busy with your war there are little American kids and wives that no longer have husbands. You want to cut your nose off to spite your face. You revel in the tragedy created by murder.

Cops are there to protect people and help the community. If you dont like the laws they enforce then change the laws.
 

bluntmassa1

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While you are busy with your war there are little American kids and wives that no longer have husbands. You want to cut your nose off to spite your face. You revel in the tragedy created by murder.

Cops are there to protect people and help the community. If you dont like the laws they enforce then change the laws.
In order to change the laws we the people must overthrow the government. Cops are not here to protect and serve that motto died long ago they are Law Enforcement Officers armed like soldiers of war well they want to be soldiers we should treat them as such.

Also we have been calling for an end of the drug war for decades just now a few states have done so.

and changing laws will not stop oppressing 3rd world nations will not stop the US and NATO wars in the current 9 nations. It will not stop this new cold war bullshit and Russian, North Korean and Chinese propaganda being fed to us by the mainstream media!

Not one of them nations want war with America but our government is not giving them much of an option.

Funny how you care about the cops kids not having a father but you don't give a fuck about the black children growing up without a father because police killed them unjustly.

You don't care about the families that where unjustly killed by American soldiers with video evidence by Bradley Manning who is now doing 35 years in prison!! Fuck the police I feel worse for the Afghan people.
 

doublejj

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You bring up a good point. Police should not be immune from personal responsibility, nobody should. The free market provides an answer.

In a free market police wouldn't and couldn't hold their customers in a forced monopoly.

Since in a free market other security companies would be "allowed" to compete, their customer service methods would have to be pristine or they wouldn't be able to stay in business.

Given the choice, who would you fund, people with an excellent reputation or people who aren't personally liable when they commit legal crimes?
maybe we should privativize the police force......let the freemarket decide..
 

desert dude

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Maybe you heard about the Tamir Rice case and wondered: How does a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun on a playground get shot to death on-camera by the police without anyone getting charged? Put another way: How does a small group of government officials make this case disappear without a trial? Here’s how.

The prosecutor pacing in front of the witness was holding a toy gun that looked like a real gun, which was the same kind of toy the boy had been playing with the day he got shot. A rookie Cleveland police officer had fired twice at close range, and one bullet hit the boy just left of his belly button, carved downward through his intestines and a major vein, and embedded in his pelvis an inch to the right of center.

The witness, a retired cop named Roger Clark, thought the gun was a curious prop for a grand jury. The boy was dead, and had been for more than a year. He’d been accused of no crime, ever. Why the toy? There is no need for theatrics in grand-jury proceedings. They are entirely one-sided forums. Prosecutors decide what witnesses to call and what evidence to present. They instruct the grand jurors, ordinary citizens drawn from the same pool as trial jurors, on the law. There is no defense present because the most a grand jury can do is issue an indictment, which means only that there’s enough evidence of a crime that a judge or jury should sort it out. It is a very low threshold, and it is reached as a matter of plodding routine. It also is done entirely in secret. Who was a prop supposed to impress?

The prop was for them. But it was only theater. Because the boy never pointed a gun at a cop. He wasn’t given the chance to even put his hands up.


The prosecutors reminded Clark, and the grand jurors, that the officers had responded to a 911 call about a black male with a gun in a park—an “active shooter,” they said, though no shots had been fired, there was no one nearby to be shot when police arrived, and the black male turned out to be a 12-year-old boy alone in a gazebo. Active shooter. The phrase was used repeatedly, Clark told me. “They had to be brave,” the pacing prosecutor, Matthew Meyer, said. “They were brave that day.” Or maybe they were reckless, which was one of Clark’s conclusions. Maybe if they hadn’t ridden up in a frenzy, the boy wouldn’t be dead. There’s case law about that, Clark started to explain, opinions that can help define whether force was used appropriately.



http://www.gq.com/story/tamir-rice-story

Sometimes, prosecutors want to indict a ham sandwich, and sometimes they don't.
 
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