A Cannabinerd's Journey

AlphaPhase

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Ive only ever run plants from seed. Keep it simple
You got that right, I've always been a seed nerd forever, but clone when I find something good. I know I'll be popping lots of seeds when I move that's for sure, I'll probably keep a few strains by cloning tho, but only if I know they are healthy. I won't ever grow a full crop of something that looks wierd ever again. Any new Clone gets quarantined and only 1 plant gets flowered as a test. That's the only way I can keep the damage control at a minimum lol
 

Vnsmkr

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The only duds Ive had thankfully were autos and a few from big name dutch banks (shit). Ive not had much crap from reputable breeders over the last few years. Of course there is always better and we are always looking for that gem, nature of the beast :). Once I get my tent setup for indoor then I will also make a cloner so that I can save cuts from time to time, but they will only be my cuts, nothing from outside. I like running all from seed
 

AlphaPhase

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The only duds Ive had thankfully were autos and a few from big name dutch banks (shit). Ive not had much crap from reputable breeders over the last few years. Of course there is always better and we are always looking for that gem, nature of the beast :). Once I get my tent setup for indoor then I will also make a cloner so that I can save cuts from time to time, but they will only be my cuts, nothing from outside. I like running all from seed
I'm with that brother!!! :)
 

Aeroknow

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Oh, and for anyone that hasn't seen a dud plant. I have my LAST dud plant in flower now in the rw slabs. Not sure how it dudded since it was healthy in veg. But this is the madness I was talking about and this is the worst case I've ever seen in my life, and I've dealt with lots of duds. Figure before I forget to post it, I should show it now so you know since I'm not sure if I posted this rated x photo before lol (it's rather embarrassing so I hid it as much as I could lol). I think the drip stakes caused it (I got them as a hand me dowm) , imo I think it's a disease and the drip stakes we're used in dud plants from another grower. I think that the issue spreads by contact, especially when something with the diesease makes direct contact with roots, it spreads almost instantly in that plant. Just a theory, but it makes sense to me since I've never seen it THIS bad before. But this should be the last one since everything I'm buying is new from here on out

This is a mendo Breath. You all know what the mendo Breath should look like lol, sad
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Dude, those drip stakes had been in a box tucked away and had not been used in over 4-5 yrs;-)
If that plant actually is a dud, and it spreads the way you're thinkin, wouldn't the other 2 plants on the slab be infected?
 
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adower

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You got that right, I've always been a seed nerd forever, but clone when I find something good. I know I'll be popping lots of seeds when I move that's for sure, I'll probably keep a few strains by cloning tho, but only if I know they are healthy. I won't ever grow a full crop of something that looks wierd ever again. Any new Clone gets quarantined and only 1 plant gets flowered as a test. That's the only way I can keep the damage control at a minimum lol
You just have to stop getting genetics from the club. Get them from reliable people and mono crop :)
 

adower

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A little Hugo block veg porn. These gals, the left tray is mamas, animal cookies, animal pie, mendo Breath, black lime reserve, Bubba kush and dosido. The right side tray is animal cookies and 1 gg4 sherbert.

They have much much longer to veg, I dunno like a month or more, so I'm thinking of stacking a Hugo block on a big mama 8" block and starting a drip system for my veg plants :) I can't keep up with the waterings, 2x a day now by hand. So tomorrow I'm going to grab the stuff needed to build the drip system I think

Man, now that I have everything back to normal and healthy it feels good. I don't really want to change anything but I kind of want to try maxibloom again in flower, something cheaper than v+b, but at the same time I don't want v+b being the glue that is holding the healthy together lol.

Anyway. I just noticed that the electrical panel on the house I'm buying is IN the garage, holy hell that's a bonus! It's going to be soooo easy to wire up new 240v outlets in there and make it 10x easier to install :)

I keep thinking to myself, I've never truly grown trees before, and now I'll have 10' ceilings.. In a month these gals should be massive, especially the mamas, gonna be a wild ride!! Maybe 3 gallon pots of rw mini cubes with the Hugo's on top, drip system. I don't know, but it'll be fun figuring it out lol

Sorry for the rant, thinking out loud

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Veg + bloom isn't expensive if you think about what you're getting. Not sure why you keep wanting to switch nutes over a few $$.
 

Aeroknow

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You just have to stop getting genetics from the club. Get them from reliable people and mono crop :)
Yeah dude. I recently had gotten a whole flat of cuts directly from one of MF's nurserys. 25 dosidos(all good) and 25 blueberrycookies. All but 2 of the BBcookies were sick. Fucking lame.
Although Mr alphaphase has not been getting cuts of new flavors directly from the clubs, the funk is originally massively spread from those nurseries IMO.
 

adower

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Yeah dude. I recently had gotten a whole flat of cuts directly from one of MF's nurserys. 25 dosidos(all good) and 25 blueberrycookies. All but 2 of the BBcookies were sick. Fucking lame.
Although Mr alphaphase has not been getting cuts of new flavors directly from the clubs, the funk is originally massively spread from those nurseries IMO.
Yeah I know your pain. It sucks because you can't really make up the time and effort put into bunk plants.
 

AlphaPhase

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Dude, those drip stakes had been in a box tucked away and had not been used in over 4-5 yrs;-)
If that plant actually is a dud, and it spreads the way you're thinkin, wouldn't the other 2 plants on the slab be infected?
You said they were from your last grow, figured that ghostrider grow was the last (the one with the dud in the front) grow before you got the blue drippers? If not then it's back to the drawing board and it doesn't make any sense again lol

I think I see that sideways branching starting on it. You don't?
Kinda but not really I think that branch just got bumped around. Those stems are really thick and strong and the structure /growth doesn't look like the beginning of the dud, the whole plant it a dud from top to bottom. I think it spreads by contact to injured roots, so if the other plants roots aren't injured they don't get it as bad, but if they are injured (especially around the crown) I think it's like instant doom
 

AlphaPhase

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Veg + bloom isn't expensive if you think about what you're getting. Not sure why you keep wanting to switch nutes over a few $$.
Well, it's 4$ a lb for maxi and 23$ a lb for v+b. I use 250grams per light every week on avg. So it's quite a bit cheaper even if you add in the Calmag. Maxi comes to $25 a light and v+b about 100$ per light, per grow, or so. Not much of a difference I guess but it's a difference of 400$ a grow
 

AlphaPhase

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Yeah dude. I recently had gotten a whole flat of cuts directly from one of MF's nurserys. 25 dosidos(all good) and 25 blueberrycookies. All but 2 of the BBcookies were sick. Fucking lame.
Although Mr alphaphase has not been getting cuts of new flavors directly from the clubs, the funk is originally massively spread from those nurseries IMO.
Fuckin duds. The mystery continues
 

adower

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Well, it's 4$ a lb for maxi and 23$ a lb for v+b. I use 250grams per light every week on avg. So it's quite a bit cheaper even if you add in the Calmag. Maxi comes to $25 a light and v+b about 100$ per light, per grow, or so. Not much of a difference I guess but it's a difference of 400$ a grow
Are you also taking into account if you're adding anything when you use maxi? Such as boosters etc? I use veg bloom and some cal mag rarely and that's it. I don't have to worry about adding anything else. I'd rather pay just a bit more for proven results but that's just me.
 

Aeroknow

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Are you also taking into account if you're adding anything when you use maxi? Such as boosters etc? I use veg bloom and some cal mag rarely and that's it. I don't have to worry about adding anything else. I'd rather pay just a bit more for proven results but that's just me.
I use the maxi. I've been using it on and off ever since it came out.
In cities where I lived/grew like San jose, Salinas, stockton etc, only the maxi was used, nothing else.

Up where me and AP live, our water is hella soft. I add 1/2 tsp/gal calmag, about 3/4 tsp/gal maxi bloom. Around 1.7 EC That's it. Nothing else. I do the same at my other pad that I use RO water.
 

AlphaPhase

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Are you also taking into account if you're adding anything when you use maxi? Such as boosters etc? I use veg bloom and some cal mag rarely and that's it. I don't have to worry about adding anything else. I'd rather pay just a bit more for proven results but that's just me.
Don't get me wrong, v+b works great. Easiest I've used (I don't use any Cal mag with it, just v+b). But I don't use any boosters with maxi either, just some calmag at 1ml per gallon. I'm just curious since now my gardens in the sweet spot now, I wanna try some maxi in flower (I'll always use v+b in veg I got the stuff so dialed in for veg). I'm expecting the v+b to do better in flower as well but just want to make sure in a side by side. If the Quaiity / quality is similar I'm gonna switch to maxi for flower but if not (I'll be taking in all factors), if any decrease in any aspect I'm sticking to v+b. But 4-500 a month of savings using maxi is alot, but not if it sacrifices any output
 
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