Help needed with tea recipe!!!!!!

Rasta Roy said:
Some advice friend, if you want to have a pissing contest...don't challenge the guy with the full bladder.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything, and I'm always learning.

But if you wanna laugh at something...

I'm a professional in a medical state. I do this for a living. Legally. I probably repotted more plants this morning then you've grown in the past two years. And I could talk to a cop and a judge while doing it. I don't say that to brag, Im saying my potential to try different methods and actually chart what does and doesn't work is exponentially higher than yours. So maybe don't talk shit to me, and I could be more of a resource, than a laugh. We are here to learn how to be better growers right? View attachment 3750656 View attachment 3750657 View attachment 3750659 View attachment 3750660 View attachment 3750661 View attachment 3750662 View attachment 3750663 View attachment 3750664 View attachment 3750665 View attachment 3750666
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If we are here to learn to be better growers why are you and your denier buddy so opposed to tea when there are multi million dollar organic produce growers who use it do you think they do that just to waste money? You are arrogant and from your photos you have plenty of room to learn those are spindly little buds that the correct tea would vastly improve. I was growing before you were freaking born and you know what I am still learning you should try it.
 
backtracker said:
If we are here to learn to be better growers why are you and your denier buddy so opposed to tea when there are multi million dollar organic produce growers who use it do you think they do that just to waste money? You are arrogant and from your photos you have plenty of room to learn those are spindly little buds that the correct tea would vastly improve. I was growing before you were freaking born and you know what I am still learning you should try it.
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I have no problem with teas I use them I just know they don't break down Greensand and bonemeal like you seem to think they do.

And teas don't contribute to yield, a good environment does.

But you would know all that with your years and years of experience (you know I'm four years older than you right?)

And don't try to deny my buds like they ain't beautiful dog. Youre just mad you gotta hold down a real job and brew your tea for two years straight waiting for your Greensand to break down. while I get to sell soil and tell people how to grow bud all day.
 
Rasta Roy said:
I have no problem with teas I use them I just know they don't break down Greensand and bonemeal like you seem to think they do.

And teas don't contribute to yield, a good environment does.

But you would know all that with your years and years of experience (you know I'm four years older than you right?)

And don't try to deny my buds like they ain't beautiful dog. Youre just mad you gotta hold down a real job and brew your tea for two years straight waiting for your Greensand to break down. while I get to sell soil and tell people how to grow bud all day.
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You are a fucking idiot.
 
Can't we all just get along.... After all we are all here because of one plant... I think it's great that people can disagree on a subject and debate over it ... Hell I'll take a bit of what each of you said and try something new !!!!! Too much hate in the world already don't need to spread any more..
 
backtracker said:
Thank you thank you very much everyone has to be something now I know what I am and thank you for letting me know. Why would you go to the trouble of posting something so trivial.
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This whole thread all you've been doing is trolling and spreading misinformation.
 
Rasta Roy said:
I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you sir. Some of those ingredients are water soluble, a good majority are not. You can Google them individually to find out which ones for yourself, but I can tell you more of them aren't than are. An actively aerated tea will bring the already existing microbiology in compost or manure and feed it so that it multiplies and becomes more complex. When these microorganisms are added to your soil, they work to break down the organic matter and turn it into nutrients that the plant can uptake. There is nothing about an aact that makes stuff "break down". Well, post application there is. But not in its creation itself.

Some things like kelp meal, alfalfa, and Bat Guano. When steeped in water over a 24 hour to 48 hour period can have their nutritional benefits leeched out into the water. So that they will be instantly absorbed by the roots when the water is applied to the soil. Or through the leaves by way of foliar feeding.

Just saying, not trying to salt your game bro. The Fert should be applied as a top dressing or evenly mixed in the soil.
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I should add something here that I feel many of you are not familiar with!

When "brewing" an AACT tea. Your purpose is to "make" and add active living Bac/fungi correct?

Did you guys know that if you add Kelp in meal or extract form, that you actually reduce the living bac counts by as much as 40+% vs. the counts for the same tea without the kelp!!

I'm not kidding here! We have actually done counts here on the farm as we use 950g units to brew our AACT's for the farms in the co-op. We even have a few other farms come in and have us brew for them. I remember talking with Steve about this several years ago. He too has seen this in his counts!
He feels that kelp has an anti bac/fungal quality in it when it's used IN a brew.

So then. If you want the highest bac counts you can get.....Leave the kelp OUT and use it in feeding or plain watering..

I do like alfalfa meal in some of my teas. It does bring a bit of nutrient to the table but, it brings in some harder to get bac strains too.

There's 2 important cents on the table for you !
 
Dr. Who said:
I should add something here that I feel many of you are not familiar with!

When "brewing" an AACT tea. Your purpose is to "make" and add active living Bac/fungi correct?

Did you guys know that if you add Kelp in meal or extract form, that you actually reduce the living bac counts by as much as 40+% vs. the counts for the same tea without the kelp!!

I'm not kidding here! We have actually done counts here on the farm as we use 950g units to brew our AACT's for the farms in the co-op. We even have a few other farms come in and have us brew for them. I remember talking with Steve about this several years ago. He too has seen this in his counts!
He feels that kelp has an anti bac/fungal quality in it when it's used IN a brew.

So then. If you want the highest bac counts you can get.....Leave the kelp OUT and use it in feeding or plain watering..

I do like alfalfa meal in some of my teas. It does bring a bit of nutrient to the table but, it brings in some harder to get bac strains too.

There's 2 important cents on the table for you !
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Stuff I knew but good info to throw out there!

That's why I do my compost teas simple. Castings, compost, and molasses.

And then I'll do separate kelp teas and alfalfa teas as needed.
 
Dr. Who said:
I should add something here that I feel many of you are not familiar with!

When "brewing" an AACT tea. Your purpose is to "make" and add active living Bac/fungi correct?

Did you guys know that if you add Kelp in meal or extract form, that you actually reduce the living bac counts by as much as 40+% vs. the counts for the same tea without the kelp!!

I'm not kidding here! We have actually done counts here on the farm as we use 950g units to brew our AACT's for the farms in the co-op. We even have a few other farms come in and have us brew for them. I remember talking with Steve about this several years ago. He too has seen this in his counts!
He feels that kelp has an anti bac/fungal quality in it when it's used IN a brew.

So then. If you want the highest bac counts you can get.....Leave the kelp OUT and use it in feeding or plain watering..

I do like alfalfa meal in some of my teas. It does bring a bit of nutrient to the table but, it brings in some harder to get bac strains too.

There's 2 important cents on the table for you !
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The fungi feed off of kelp. You don't really want a bacteria dominant tea. Or at least I don't. I prefer it to be balanced
 
hyroot said:
The fungi feed off of kelp. You don't really want a bacteria dominant tea. Or at least I don't. I prefer it to be balanced
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Agreed for what we grow here. Yet I'll alternate or simply add the Kelp in after brewing. Your fungi will hit hard in the soil that way (post brew additions) or so I've seen by big visible mycelium "burst" growths from time to time when I've done it that way..


In Organic farming the Bac counts can be critical for feeding balance in nutrient availability by field use.....We try and provide the ground with more of what it needs but, it can be hard. The high bac counts do a balancing job for us. This is rather important when you bring certain veggi's in over grain crops.

(I like it more to the fungal side too) Hmm, maybe adjusting the amounts of kelp to swing that bac count loss %......Hyroot, you have me on the phone to the designer of Vortex.....If interested, I'll let you know what Steve thinks on that..
 
Dr. Who said:
Agreed for what we grow here. Yet I'll alternate or simply add the Kelp in after brewing. Your fungi will hit hard in the soil that way (post brew additions) or so I've seen by big visible mycelium "burst" growths from time to time when I've done it that way..


In Organic farming the Bac counts can be critical for feeding balance in nutrient availability by field use.....We try and provide the ground with more of what it needs but, it can be hard. The high bac counts do a balancing job for us. This is rather important when you bring certain veggi's in over grain crops.

(I like it more to the fungal side too) Hmm, maybe adjusting the amounts of kelp to swing that bac count loss %......Hyroot, you have me on the phone to the designer of Vortex.....If interested, I'll let you know what Steve thinks on that..
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If I'm going for fungal dominance I'll get my compost prestarted. Mix in some steel cut oats with your compost, I spray it with water and molasses and wait a week for it to grow a nice white beard. Then I'll make a tea.
 
Alfalfa is almost magic and I put very small amounts in compost teas at times. I also use weak alfalfa tea with kelp at times and molasses. Many times I water compost tea, then alfalfa tea, then rainwater or clear. Seem to work. I use this till chop as I use 11/2 gallon containers.

I do recycle some mix and want it to alive and usable after.
 
hillbill said:
Alfalfa is almost magic and I put very small amounts in compost teas at times. I also use weak alfalfa tea with kelp at times and molasses. Many times I water compost tea, then alfalfa tea, then rainwater or clear. Seem to work. I use this till chop as I use 11/2 gallon containers.

I do recycle some mix and want it to alive and usable after.
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I agree on alfalfa! We use it in vast amounts on the farms - not just for the beeves!
 
Dr. Who said:
Agreed for what we grow here. Yet I'll alternate or simply add the Kelp in after brewing. Your fungi will hit hard in the soil that way (post brew additions) or so I've seen by big visible mycelium "burst" growths from time to time when I've done it that way..


In Organic farming the Bac counts can be critical for feeding balance in nutrient availability by field use.....We try and provide the ground with more of what it needs but, it can be hard. The high bac counts do a balancing job for us. This is rather important when you bring certain veggi's in over grain crops.

(I like it more to the fungal side too) Hmm, maybe adjusting the amounts of kelp to swing that bac count loss %......Hyroot, you have me on the phone to the designer of Vortex.....If interested, I'll let you know what Steve thinks on that..
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I've been running more labs and fpe's than teas. I even got lazy on the sst. Use coco water instead. More so I can ferment the coconuts. I'm always a couple weeks away from harvesting my worm bins. But then I keep adding left over scraps from ferments and the daily veggie scraps.
 
Using the term compost tea as a catch phrase when talking about putting ingredients in a container and bubbling air through it can lead to confusion and misunderstandings. The term AACT should be use when the main ingredient is compost and maybe everything else should be called an extraction or something that better describes the end product. AACT brewed with compost that was made from woody material has more fungal growth and that made from green waste has more bacterial growth according to Dr Ingahm she also says if you don't have the right microscope to see what is in the brew it's impossible to know for sure.
 
I am doing my first fully organic run this time around. White Widow and Blueberry headband. It's actually amazing how much the plants grow after each tea feeding. I have seen them double in size within 24 hours after a tea feeding twice now. (They are still babies). Using a variation of subcools soil (Slightly loss hot than his, but same ingredients).

Each tea I make is: 5 gallon bucket of water, 3-4 handfuls of charlies chicken compost, 3 handfuls of worm castings, 3-4 caps of alaska fish fertilizer, 1 handful of kelp meal, 1 handful of alfalfa meal, then a good bit of molasses. Sometimes I add a spritz of Advanced Nutrients BudCandy (It's some form of isolated sugar/carbohydrate as well as a few amino acids) It seems to grow the bacteria faster than just compost/castings and molasses alone.
 
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