Best low cost nutes for veg and bloom in soil? And best for Monster blooms

irish grower

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Because I have a tad bit of understanding reality where it concerns botany. High P in containers is a waste and nutes need to be balanced for plants to be healthy. Every day there is a problem post here because a new grower started usin bloom nutes & boosters wrong. Then there is this email from the CEO of DynaGro, you know the guys that developed hydro nutes for NASA ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

You are correct. We market a high P (Liquid Bloom) as some "believe" they need this. As you have noted, our Foliage-Pro does a great job start to finish. However, it is simpler to give the market what they think they need than to try to reeducate it. There is some evidence to believe that low N helps to convince a plant to stop its vegetative growth and move into its reproductive phase (flowering), but environmental factors are probably more important. P is typically 5th or 6th in order of importance of the six macronutrients. There is little scientific justification for higher P formulas, but marketing does come into play for the vast majority of users who lack any real understanding of plant nutritional requirements. Therefore, the market is flooded with a plethora of snake oil products that provide little benefit and can actually do harm. For example, one exhibitor at a hydroponic trade show had a calcium supplement with 2% calcium derived from calcium chloride. Can you guess what continued application of 2% chloride would do to plants?'\
I hope this answers your question and am sorry for Zina's inaccurate response.
Cordially,
Dave Neal, CEO
Dyna-Gro Nutrition Solutions
2775 Giant Rd.
Richmond, CA 94806
800-Dyna-Gro, Fax: 510-233-0198
[email protected]
www.dyna-gro.com
can i ask you a question please,how far away
do you keep your lights away from your plants,i have been doing nothing but reading about this,and i just dont think mine is right,i have tried one ft away,too close burns the new growth,2ft seems to stretch,is it getting the right environment for them,dont get me wrong i have a fue plants under me belt,it would be nice if i could know what they need before they know they need it,dose that make any sence,il keep reading and learn as i go.thanks and hope to here from you
 

RM3

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can i ask you a question please,how far away
do you keep your lights away from your plants,i have been doing nothing but reading about this,and i just dont think mine is right,i have tried one ft away,too close burns the new growth,2ft seems to stretch,is it getting the right environment for them,dont get me wrong i have a fue plants under me belt,it would be nice if i could know what they need before they know they need it,dose that make any sence,il keep reading and learn as i go.thanks and hope to here from you
The proper way to adjust lights is via plant response
 

fandango

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Wow. Nice plants. What is the story with the straw?

Do you ever have any bug issues outside or do ladybugs help you out?

Can the powder stuff be put in a watering can? Like a few table spoons full per gallon?
The straw keeps the soil in place and the roots can grow into it if they want to..also keeps the heat away from the soil.
Bugs!!!always got them bugs,the worst are the moth who seem to enjoy the final phase of flower..but so far the plants are growing faster than the bug
 

fandango

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Wow. Nice plants. What is the story with the straw?

Do you ever have any bug issues outside or do ladybugs help you out?

Can the powder stuff be put in a watering can? Like a few table spoons full per gallon?
The straw keeps the soil in place and the roots can grow into it if they want to..also keeps the heat away from the soil.
Bugs!!!always got them bugs,the worst are the moth who seem to enjoy the final phase of flower..but so far the plants are growing faster than the bug
 

fandango

Well-Known Member
Wow. Nice plants. What is the story with the straw?

Do you ever have any bug issues outside or do ladybugs help you out?

Can the powder stuff be put in a watering can? Like a few table spoons full per gallon?
The straw keeps the soil in place and the roots can grow into it if they want to..also keeps the heat away from the soil.
Bugs!!!always got them bugs,the worst are the moth who seem to enjoy the final phase of flower..but so far the plants are growing faster than the bug
 

fandango

Well-Known Member
Wow. Nice plants. What is the story with the straw?

Do you ever have any bug issues outside or do ladybugs help you out?

Can the powder stuff be put in a watering can? Like a few table spoons full per gallon?
The straw keeps the soil in place and the roots can grow into it if they want to..also keeps the heat away from the soil.
Bugs!!!always got them bugs,the worst are the moth who seem to enjoy the final phase of flower..but so far the plants are growing faster than the bug
The powder dissolves 100% in water
 

Colo MMJ

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The straw keeps the soil in place and the roots can grow into it if they want to..also keeps the heat away from the soil.
Bugs!!!always got them bugs,the worst are the moth who seem to enjoy the final phase of flower..but so far the plants are growing faster than the bug
The powder dissolves 100% in water
+100
Clever idea using it as a sun block to shade the soil. Nice.
 

Colo MMJ

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Dr. Earth Home Grown for veg and Dr. Earth Flower Girl for bloom.

I bought some of both because I have a credit at HD. It looks good and has biotics too. The problem is I hand water into soil using 1 gallon jug. I put a teaspoon full in my watering can and hit it with water pressure but it is not really soluble. I have been leaving it overnight t try to get it to break down like a tea. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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I bought some of both because I have a credit at HD. It looks good and has biotics too. The problem is I hand water into soil using 1 gallon jug. I put a teaspoon full in my watering can and hit it with water pressure but it is not really soluble. I have been leaving it overnight t try to get it to break down like a tea. Any suggestions? Thanks.
2 days in an HD 5 gallon bucket with an air stone. Or top dress instead.
 

texasjack

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cannabis loves it, but it is missin sulfur, best to mix with acid special if goin this way, I know a few growers that do
I've been using Jacks Tomato FEed for veg and now in flower adding bloom booster. Sho9i stop the tomato feed?
 

genna_mj

Member
Not the cheapest, but for indoor I like the Fox Farm trio (Big Bloom, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom) and CalMag in soil.

Outdoors, I just amend the soil with bone and blood meal, and some earthworm castings.
Is it because you are using fox farm that you need the cal mag? Or is it because of the water that you use??
 

Sassafras¥

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Age Old is great, I use their Kelp. as for powdered nutes, I use Jack's and get it at Paulino's
Finally. I found someone that is using Jacks. Ok, can it be used with hydro? I had planned on running a few soil, and a few dro. I'm currently running soil and about finshed up, just wanted to know if Jacks was good for hydro. Also, would you recommend adding in calmag along side of Jacks? Do you run it all the way through flowering, or so you switch from the all purpose line to the bloom? Sorry to bombard you with all the questions, just hadn't seen many using Jacks. Thanks for any insight in advance
 
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