What would prove GOD does/doesn't exists?

[Olive Drab Green]

That's one I could probably benefit from, from an anxiety and depression stand point, but have been a little too afraid.

I've read that it's easier to navigate than straight DMT even though it lasts substantially longer. I just think of a few breakthrough experiences I had and they were pretty intense. An experience on 800mg mescaline and a large quantity of 4-aco-dmt (last of bag, way too much), a few years ago and I've finally had my ass kicked and been a little timid since.

It's 2 hours of talking to God while you die a million times and see a million possibilities from the life of every person. You see every possibility in every life. After two hours of hell and Ego Death, you hit the enlightenment stage. Everything is clear, and nothing matters.

 

[sharptater]

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there

It's 2 hours of talking to God while you die a million times and see a million possibilities from the life of every person. You see every possibility in every life. After two hours of hell and Ego Death, you hit the enlightenment stage. Everything is clear, and nothing matters.

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there.

 

[LostInEthereal]

I have a couple DMT experiences that sound pretty similar. Most of the times I come back and I'm unable to recall most the experience, just left with that unsettling feeling that that something isn't right, lol.

This thread is of particular interest in the context of a profound psychedelic experience.

To me, in those moments, with the dazzling array of kaleidoscope visuals and fantastically impossible geometric arrangements, can feel more 'real' then the reality you come scuttling back to. But that's just a feedback loop of brain patterns being funneled through the visual processing centers of the brain.

Crazy stuff though. The entities are what get me the most.

 

[LostInEthereal]

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there.

Read up on DMT. There's an interesting documentary with some personal experiences based off the book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" on Netflix, at least it was before. Couple of those people have very eloquent descriptions of what's impossible for me to describe.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there

Damn. I wanna smoke what your smoking. Also I would like some of the shit Yoda is smoking lol. Thats some deep shit there.

Ayahuasca. You drink it.

 

[sharptater]

Honestly idk if I could handle a "trip" like that. I've tried a few drugs and always stuck with alcohol and cannabis. I've thought about psychedelics but haven't tried any. Idk if I could handle the experience at this point in my life. It could open my eyes or something much worse. I'm a pessimist. Anything that can go wrong will. Reason for my anxiety and depression I think. I focus on the bad instead of the good in life.

 

[Walterwhiter]

The cannabis plant. BOOM!

 

[Olive Drab Green]

When I would forget to breathe, I'd gasp and return to my body. When I breathed and focused on it, there was this flickering of white light, a weird vibration or screeching plastic sound, and I would leave my body again. Those millions of crickets in the beginning, though: that is an intense sound.

It would be the worst and best thing that ever happened to you. But you have to be ready on your own before you seek it out.

 

[sharptater]

Maybe one of these days, id really like to understand life and the universe but I doubt I will in my lifetime. Maybe someday we will all understand.

 

[ttystikk]

I'm feeling like a nazi for science over here. I'm just going to respectfully bow out and let this discussion veer off wherever it does.

I don't want to make someone feel as if they can't have a discussion, and I'm definitely being a little aggressive and a bit of a dick.

It's important to stay grounded.

I make progress when I stay with concrete principles.

 

[Catfish1966]

How about proving, or disproving a Unicorn that pisses rainbows residing 1 billion lightyears away from Earth?

That's not a unicorn.

 

[Catfish1966]

It's important to stay grounded.

I make progress when I stay with concrete principles.

So your claiming your ideology is "concrete principles"?

 

[ttystikk]

I agree. We need to as a whole think about things differently. To "evolve" in a sense. Evolution is nothing more than adaptation to ones environment. We evolve/ understand more about our environment from evolution and adapt. If we didn't we wouldn't be here today. I don't think "proof" of anything truely exists unless we think it exists. In our minds it exists but we can never know for sure. Even "if" aliens/ gods exist who's to say for 100% sure. We create our own reality. Just because we "believe" in the laws of physics as we know them now doesn't necessarily make them true. We are always learning/ understanding things differently.

If you think empiricism is less important than belief, do me a favor and make sure I'm not in the car when you disbelieve that Peterbuilt exists, lol

 

[ttystikk]

So your claiming your ideology is "concrete principles"?

If yours isn't, then I shouldn't trust anything you say.

 

[Catfish1966]

If yours isn't, then I shouldn't trust anything you say.

No, definitely don't trust anything I might say. After all, anything that doesn't fit in your world view must be false.

 

[ttystikk]

No, definitely don't trust anything I might say. After all, anything that doesn't fit in your world view must be false.

If it doesn't square with my world view it must be carefully scrutinized for validity. If there is some, fine. If not- out it goes!

You and nearly everything you say fails that test.

 

[Catfish1966]

If it doesn't square with my world view it must be carefully scrutinized for validity. If there is some, fine. If not- out it goes!

You and nearly everything you say fails that test.

Yet you seem unable to refute any of it. I think your "scrutiny" consists of "does it agree with my viewpoint? Yes=truth. No=false"

 

[pinner420]

Never meet an atheist in a foxhole.

 

[ttystikk]

Yet you seem unable to refute any of it. I think your "scrutiny" consists of "does it agree with my viewpoint? Yes=truth. No=false"

Your thinking is garbage. No logic, no tests against reality.

Enjoy your fact free life.

 

[Dalek Supreme]

Never meet an atheist in a foxhole.

That's Bull. One time I was in a situation that I thought I was going to die. I did not call out to something I did not believe in. My thoughts were "Well this is a stupid way to die". Then I was rescued from the icy water.