Who OWNS a Marshydro unit thoughts concerns regrets?

Olive Drab Green

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You do if you're looking at the over all efficiency/performance/price points. If it is for a specific situation and it works by all means go nuts. If its anything bigger than a 3x3 that light might as well be off honestly.
If he and his wife feel like dealing with that hassle, heat, and bill, light's light.
 

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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Yea ok did you read my signature? Im all about good quality LEDS but that is not one. Mars is less efficient than an HPS because of the diodes it uses. Thats why they suck. You can educate me as to how Im incorrect. If not then were good.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Yea ok did you read my signature? Im all about good quality LEDS but that is not one. Mars is less efficient than an HPS because of the diodes it uses. Thats why they suck. You can educate me as to how Im incorrect. If not then were good.
Well, yeah. I said earlier, COBs are the way to go. I'm not talking about Mars, specifically because they kind of suck, though; I use ViparSpectra. They use Bridgelux 5w LEDs and a reflector.

Actually, everyone thinks it's me supporting the MarsHydro thing, and it's not. That's Jorge's deal. He and I have argued, and I've said that Mars are pretty shitty by comparison to most lighting systems, save like.. Low-low end stuff.
 

JorgeGonzales

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@Gary Goodson , @.Pinworm. , @srh88 , @StonedFarmer

Jorge says a 400w will produce, on average, 200g per plant after flipping 3 weeks from seed. Bullshit or not bullshit?
I said that @Walterwhiter could reach his personal goal of 200g+ with a 400W light, that's it. If you thought I was talking to you, I wasn't. Mountain, meet molehill.

The hallmark of LEDs lies specifically in their efficiency over HID.
Some LEDs. Quite a few are lucky if they even match the efficiency of HPS. Either way, as long as you claim your 200W $149 light can replace 400W your "expertise" on the matter is hard to take seriously. And as long as a manufacturer claims that, they are lying, and I wouldn't trust anything else they say about their lights.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I said that @Walterwhiter could reach his personal goal of 200g+ with a 400W light, that's it. If you thought I was talking to you, I wasn't. Mountain, meet molehill.



Some LEDs. Quite a few are lucky if they even match the efficiency of HPS. Either way, as long as you claim your 200W $149 light can replace 400W your "expertise" on the matter is hard to take seriously. And as long as a manufacturer claims that, they are lying, and I wouldn't trust anything else they say about their lights.
He could also reach that with a 450w ViparSpectra.


MarsHydro is not one of them. You were originally arguing from the MarsHydro side. Your point is invalid.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Jorge is the one arguing that MarsHydro is a "legit" LED company because their employees throw barbecues with their customers' money and videotape it to rub in your face how they're enjoying screwing you, while saying ViparSpectra is an illegitimate, cheap company that couldn't grow anything, which I've completely disproved.

So, that's where animosity between him and I is coming from. Now, he flipped form MarsHydro to talking about a 400w HPS because he's been informed that MarsHydro sucks by a number of people.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I think you mean to be exact.

I dont think he can if its only a legit 2hundred watt light. Whats the footprint? Hps has penetration. Leds , not as much.
He definitely can. Look at my journal. They were flipped 3 weeks from seed. And LEDs definitely have penetration. Not even trying to start shit, you're cool. 3 weeks from seed, though, and about 3 ounces altogether. 4, if I had let the one finish out right. With only 3 weeks above ground before flowering, and I only topped one of the plants, I guarantee a 1.5-2 month normal veg will hit 200g.
 

mr sunshine

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He definitely can. Look at my journal. They were flipped 3 weeks from seed. And LEDs definitely have penetration. Not even trying to start shit, you're cool.
No arguing just explain to me how a weaker light can penetrate deeper then a stronger light that can be placed closer to the canopy? If you know something I dont know id appreciate it if you explained it to me . If you're wrong id assume you'd like to know also.. worst case scenario someone learnes something. Its not starting shit its a win win situation. For both of us.
 

Olive Drab Green

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A TastyLED T1-2100 COB puts out only 60 more micromols at the center, for comparison. If it's slightly under the power of a Tasty T1-2100, that's pretty good.

Tasty T1: 480 mmols @ 24", using 78w.

V450: 420 @ 24" using 206w.

It's just that simple. How do you not get that it's 60% more efficient than HID? Wattage is not an item nor issue, it puts out 450w worth of light.
 
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