Well Today's the Day (ACMPR Regulations and Forms)

realmeduser

realmeduser

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my brief scan leads me to believe this is very similar to mmar.
with the exception being if you lie to them on app you get revoked, and if you get caught or have been caught selling weed while under the mmar ,acmpr, or under the injunction, you get declined.
 
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JungleStrikeGuy

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bigmanc said:
I'm at work and can't read it right now.

Are we limited to 5gpd? Sure as fuck hope not
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Not from what I've seen, overall ACMPR regs seem more or less a blend of MMPR/MMAR with a few new parts.

I'm assuming inspectors under the MMAR had authority to 'collect samples', otherwise that might be a way to determine if you've dared to not use LP seeds, but seems infeasible if that's the intent.

As for the new stipulations around not being able to grow if you've been convicted of a cannabis offense in the past 10 years, seems like they'll just run your name through CPIC on application or something similar, and if your declaration that you haven't been convicted doesn't match up then they'll just deny the application based on providing false information. So if you do have a conviction on record, you may be SOL for the ACMPR (for however long they last).

The information sharing with provincial medical authorities is a little concerning, basically if you sign up under the ACMPR the provincial colleges will have your details and the details of your doctor. I wouldn't bet on access getting any better from the doctor signing point of view.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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i can't see if you are prescribed it and want to grow your own that they say no if you have been busted within the last 10 years. i would challenge that if need be.
Under MMAR, your own grow-didn't matter if you had a record or not.
 
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CannaReview

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doingdishes said:
i can't see if you are prescribed it and want to grow your own that they say no if you have been busted within the last 10 years. i would challenge that if need be.
Under MMAR, your own grow-didn't matter if you had a record or not.
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Eligibility – production for own medical purposes
(2) An individual is eligible to produce cannabis for their own medical purposes as a registered person only if they are an adult.

Prior offences
(3) An individual is not eligible to conduct the production referred to in subsection (2) if, within the preceding 10 years, they have been convicted, as an adult, of

  • (a) a designated cannabis offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce cannabis under the Act, other than under the former Marihuana Medical Access Regulations; or
  • (b) a designated marihuana offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce marihuana
    • (i) under the Act, other than under these Regulations, or
    • (ii) by virtue of an injunction order issued by a court.
Definitions
(4) The following definitions apply in this section.

designated cannabis offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of cannabis, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement au chanvre indien)
designated marihuana offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of marihuana, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement à la marihuana)
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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CannaReview said:
Eligibility – production for own medical purposes
(2) An individual is eligible to produce cannabis for their own medical purposes as a registered person only if they are an adult.

Prior offences
(3) An individual is not eligible to conduct the production referred to in subsection (2) if, within the preceding 10 years, they have been convicted, as an adult, of

  • (a) a designated cannabis offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce cannabis under the Act, other than under the former Marihuana Medical Access Regulations; or
  • (b) a designated marihuana offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce marihuana
    • (i) under the Act, other than under these Regulations, or
    • (ii) by virtue of an injunction order issued by a court.
Definitions
(4) The following definitions apply in this section.

designated cannabis offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of cannabis, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement au chanvre indien)
designated marihuana offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of marihuana, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement à la marihuana)
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i see where you get that. very confusing for sure!
i still don't see how they can say-yes you have a proven medical need but because you medicated yourself without a permit, now you can't produce for yourself.

very much Government-ese
 
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CannaReview

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R.Raider said:
Yeah exactly. How can they just say "sorry no meds for you"?
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Well its in the regulations and there are two separate entries

Grounds for refusal — production for own medical purposes
184 In the case of an application for a registration to produce for own’s own medical purposes or an application to renew or amend such a registration, the Minister must refuse to register the applicant or to renew or amend the registration if

  • (a) the person is not eligible under subsection 174(2) or (3);
  • (b) the person would become authorized to produce marihuana plants under more than two registrations;
  • (c) the proposed site for the production of marihuana plants would be a production site under more than four registrations; or
  • (d) any information, declaration or other item included in the application is false or misleading.
. One for Own Production and one for Designated grower.


Eligibility – registered person
174 (1) An individual is eligible to be a registered person only if they ordinarily reside in Canada.

Eligibility – production for own medical purposes
(2) An individual is eligible to produce cannabis for their own medical purposes as a registered person only if they are an adult.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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CannaReview said:
Eligibility – production for own medical purposes
(2) An individual is eligible to produce cannabis for their own medical purposes as a registered person only if they are an adult.

Prior offences
(3) An individual is not eligible to conduct the production referred to in subsection (2) if, within the preceding 10 years, they have been convicted, as an adult, of

  • (a) a designated cannabis offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce cannabis under the Act, other than under the former Marihuana Medical Access Regulations; or
  • (b) a designated marihuana offence — or an offence committed outside Canada that, if committed in Canada, would have constituted such an offence — that was committed while they were authorized to produce marihuana
    • (i) under the Act, other than under these Regulations, or
    • (ii) by virtue of an injunction order issued by a court.
Definitions
(4) The following definitions apply in this section.

designated cannabis offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of cannabis, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement au chanvre indien)
designated marihuana offence means

  • (a) an offence, in respect of marihuana, under section 5 of the Act, or under section 6 of the Act except with respect to importation; or
  • (b) a conspiracy or an attempt to commit, or being an accessory after the fact in relation to, or any counselling in relation to, an offence referred to in paragraph (a). (infraction désignée relativement à la marihuana)
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These are crimes committed outside of Canada?

Itsme
 
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CannaReview

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doingdishes said:
i see where you get that. very confusing for sure!
i still don't see how they can say-yes you have a proven medical need but because you medicated yourself without a permit, now you can't produce for yourself.

very much Government-ese
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Yes its messed but even though I don't have to worry I know a few customers who had a MMAR but this might affect them.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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CannaReview said:
Well its in the regulations and there are two separate entries

Grounds for refusal — production for own medical purposes
184 In the case of an application for a registration to produce for own’s own medical purposes or an application to renew or amend such a registration, the Minister must refuse to register the applicant or to renew or amend the registration if

  • (a) the person is not eligible under subsection 174(2) or (3);
  • (b) the person would become authorized to produce marihuana plants under more than two registrations;
  • (c) the proposed site for the production of marihuana plants would be a production site under more than four registrations; or
  • (d) any information, declaration or other item included in the application is false or misleading.
. One for Own Production and one for Designated grower.


Eligibility – registered person
174 (1) An individual is eligible to be a registered person only if they ordinarily reside in Canada.

Eligibility – production for own medical purposes
(2) An individual is eligible to produce cannabis for their own medical purposes as a registered person only if they are an adult.
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Wasn't implying I didn't believe you brotha, just saying sounds like a possible discrimination issue there.
 
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CannaReview

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R.Raider said:
Wasn't implying I didn't believe you brotha, just saying sounds like a possible discrimination issue there.
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I agree but its a big WTF that they included that in there. If you are convicted and served your time and 100% free there should be no restrictions like this. That's like saying you can't go to a pharmacy when you're sick to get your perscription filled because you were convicted of a drug offense selling pharmaceuticals.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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CannaReview said:
I agree but its a big WTF that they included that in there. If you are convicted and served your time and 100% free there should be no restrictions like this. That's like saying you can't go to a pharmacy when you're sick to get your perscription filled because you were convicted of a drug offense selling pharmaceuticals.
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Yep agreed. think we're on the same page here.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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CannaReview said:
I agree but its a big WTF that they included that in there. If you are convicted and served your time and 100% free there should be no restrictions like this. That's like saying you can't go to a pharmacy when you're sick to get your perscription filled because you were convicted of a drug offense selling pharmaceuticals.
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It's only to do with cultivation, not a prescription to consume. Ie If you were charged with trafficking cannabis, it would be grounds to refuse you to cultivate, not to consume. Your simply a higher risk to trafic again.

Itsme.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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itsmehigh said:
It's only to do with cultivation, not a prescription to consume. Ie If you were charged with trafficking cannabis, it would be grounds to refuse you to cultivate, not to consume. Your simply a higher risk to trafic again.

Itsme.
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K, yeah that makes more sense.
 
itsmehigh

itsmehigh

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CannaReview said:
But they can buy from the LPs and resell it on the street... After all they are in a higher bracket to re-offend...
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That's just not practical with the high LP, price. High LP price limits the potential to profit from reselling your meds.

Itsme
 
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