so i found out adam and eve was bullshit

is christ bullshit ?

  • yes

    Votes: 18 72.0%
  • no absolutely not !!

    Votes: 7 28.0%

  • Total voters
    25

The-Budster

Well-Known Member
Slavery in those days is not what we think of slavery today. It was Labour to pay back your debts.
If you could not pay your debt then you had to work to pay back the debtor in some way. So people regardless of race would sell them self to the master as a slave to pay him back for the debt.

Fair enough really, without that system we have the likes of dole scum kicking about just taking taking taking. It also teaches the person to not borrow what they cannot pay back.

The slavery that we think of where maybe a specific race or group are being targeted and those within that race are being kidnapped etc was infact outlawed.

"And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." Exodus 21-16
 

primabudda

Well-Known Member
cuz fuck you is why
ha ha !! you gotta admit tho, i mean i know muslims that go by every word written, yet totally apposite to what they read and sell chicken, cigs, alchol for a living.

Their god says don't do these things, so brainwashed totes.



my thread was to find the truth about jesus saying he was god and you made it all complicated that's all.
 

iHearAll

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ha ha !! you gotta admit tho, i mean i know muslims that go by every word written, yet totally apposite to what they read and sell chicken, cigs, alchol for a living.

Their god says don't do these things, so brainwashed totes.



my thread was to find the truth about jesus saying he was god and you made it all complicated that's all.
what? you've still missed the point of what I've said. i dont believe every word these books say. that would be blind faith. i have taken from them what i thought was good nature and direction. they are fiction books kid. the book contains the character God. so for your puney asshole brain you fit that word into your definition of God and proceed to read "what would god do?" well not always what you want. like your inability to control the manner we answer in this asshole thread. the book introduces another character named jesus. he is essentially never born. so he, in the book, is beyond life and death. the authors made him the son of God.

and there's a story in the book too in case you were wondering...

i posted a separate book because not many Americans consider that their lives are given a world of options to learn by. if you read harry potter, which character is Hermione? ia Hermione the Hagrid? is Hermione a broom stick?

is Jesus the son if god?
is god god?

these are the most obvious answers that 1000000/1 people fail to see.

you're not going to meet Jesus your going to look in the mirror and see yourself grow a beard until you wither and die or be killed off before hand.
 

primabudda

Well-Known Member
what? you've still missed the point of what I've said. i dont believe every word these books say. that would be blind faith. i have taken from them what i thought was good nature and direction. they are fiction books kid. the book contains the character God. so for your puney asshole brain you fit that word into your definition of God and proceed to read "what would god do?" well not always what you want. like your inability to control the manner we answer in this asshole thread. the book introduces another character named jesus. he is essentially never born. so he, in the book, is beyond life and death. the authors made him the son of God.

and there's a story in the book too in case you were wondering...

i posted a separate book because not many Americans consider that their lives are given a world of options to learn by. if you read harry potter, which character is Hermione? ia Hermione the Hagrid? is Hermione a broom stick?

is Jesus the son if god?
is god god?

these are the most obvious answers that 1000000/1 people fail to see.

you're not going to meet Jesus your going to look in the mirror and see yourself grow a beard until you wither and die or be killed off before hand.
do you believe jesus when he said 'i am god/the lord' etc etc ?

a simple yes/no answer pls (i bet my whole life you can't)
 

iHearAll

Well-Known Member
shit i doubt you'v actually read past sentence one of what i spelled out. you saw what i wrote and thought "oh this guy believes in God what a retard" but hey i set myself up for it since i posted in a thread call "i found out adam and eve was bushit"... well adam and eve are also fictional characters depicting the fact that although you believe in love, god has other plans for you.

where's God to those being slaughtered in othet countries for no reason. wheres god to our soldiers as they die from IED explosions. God's right where it always is. It's a word written down and a force that controls all. there's no material manefestation of God other than through artistic expressionism, interpretation. im out. you're blind.
 

Dalek Supreme

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Slavery in those days is not what we think of slavery today. It was Labour to pay back your debts.
If you could not pay your debt then you had to work to pay back the debtor in some way. So people regardless of race would sell them self to the master as a slave to pay him back for the debt.

Fair enough really, without that system we have the likes of dole scum kicking about just taking taking taking. It also teaches the person to not borrow what they cannot pay back.

The slavery that we think of where maybe a specific race or group are being targeted and those within that race are being kidnapped etc was infact outlawed.

"And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." Exodus 21-16
I'm talking about Yahweh's rules. You can take a fellow Jew as a servent to payback debt over a period of seven years, and be not harsh to them. People of another nation are slaves forever, and your children can inherit them.

Leviticus 25:39-46Revised Standard Version (RSV)

"39 “And if your brother becomes poor beside you, and sells himself to you, you shall not make him serve as a slave: 40 he shall be with you as a hired servant and as a sojourner. He shall serve with you until the year of the jubilee; 41 then he shall go out from you, he and his children with him, and go back to his own family, and return to the possession of his fathers. 42 For they are my servants, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt; they shall not be sold as slaves. 43 You shall not rule over him with harshness, but shall fear your God. 44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a possession for ever; you may make slaves of them, but over your brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness."

This, and other verses was used as justifiable slavery by southern slave owners.
 

primabudda

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When Jesus came to Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples the mother of all questions, “Who do you say I am?” (Matt.16:15; Mark8:29; Luke9:20). Mormons answer this question by saying that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer; Jehovah’s Witnesses answer by saying that Jesus is the archangel Michael; New Agers say Jesus is an avatar or enlightened messenger. Jesus, however, answered by claiming that He was God.

First, Jesus claimed to be the unique Son of God. As a result, the Jewish leaders tried to kill Him because in “calling God his own Father, [Jesus was] making himself equal with God” (John5:18). In John8:58 Jesus went so far as to use the very words by which God revealed Himself to Moses from the burning bush (Exod.3:14). To the Jews this was the epitome of blasphemy, for they knew that in doing so Jesus was clearly claiming to be God. On yet another occasion, Jesus explicitly told the Jews: “‘I and the Father are one.’ Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’ ‘We are not stoning you for any of these,’ replied the Jews, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God’” (John10:30–33).


Did he change his mind a lot ? that's a huge change from god ! to 'the unique son of god' i thought the trinity was made up by the Vatican to determine in conversation like this which form of god we was talking about anyways.



and i thought he started saying he was god/lord because the crowd said it first.


who said it first ? and what did they or he say he was ?


also did he drink alot ? :P
 

Growdict

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you cannot use bible quotes to increase your critical thinking. if you think the adam/eve, genesis, noahs ark stories are true at face value, you are truly dense. you want to debate on a subject, but only if someone uses direct quotes from a man made book that defines the slant of the subject. Not exactly expanding your mind.
 

The-Budster

Well-Known Member
I'm talking about Yahweh's rules. You can take a fellow Jew as a servent to payback debt over a period of seven years, and be not harsh to them. People of another nation are slaves forever, and your children can inherit them.

Leviticus 25:39-46Revised Standard Version (RSV)

"39 “And if your brother becomes poor beside you, and sells himself to you, you shall not make him serve as a slave: 40 he shall be with you as a hired servant and as a sojourner. He shall serve with you until the year of the jubilee; 41 then he shall go out from you, he and his children with him, and go back to his own family, and return to the possession of his fathers. 42 For they are my servants, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt; they shall not be sold as slaves. 43 You shall not rule over him with harshness, but shall fear your God. 44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as a possession for ever; you may make slaves of them, but over your brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness."

This, and other verses was used as justifiable slavery by southern slave owners.
Ah but this was way before Christ. Around 1440 years before....

I know I quoted a book that was around the same time, it was a quick look up to try justify my point but made me realise.

Anyone that follows a book written 1440 years before Christ cannot really follow what Christ himself said. As Love your neighbour and forgive all debts cannot fit the old testament. There for these people are probably not Christian as such...
 

The-Budster

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you cannot use bible quotes to increase your critical thinking. if you think the adam/eve, genesis, noahs ark stories are true at face value, you are truly dense. you want to debate on a subject, but only if someone uses direct quotes from a man made book that defines the slant of the subject. Not exactly expanding your mind.
Can you name a book that is not "man made"??
 
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