FOX FARM 100% Organic

djmendoza21

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Im setting up a simple grow as an experiment and i was wondering if i where to use Foxfarm Ocean Forest poting soil for the first month and a half of veg it should have enough nutes to go good right?

Then when i switch to flower i will use Foxfarm Big Bloom.
This calls for 100% organic.

Should do fine right?
 

Ohsogreen

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Im setting up a simple grow as an experiment and i was wondering if i where to use Foxfarm Ocean Forest poting soil for the first month and a half of veg it should have enough nutes to go good right?

Then when i switch to flower i will use Foxfarm Big Bloom.
This calls for 100% organic.

Should do fine right?
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DJMendoza..... Ocean Forest is an excellent bagged soil. It will carry you until the sixth week. During the 3 to 6 week period, I'd water with a unsulphured molasses mix (one ounce to one gallon of unchlorinated water) to ensure Mary gets all the N she wants & a little extra K.
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Then on week six, top dress two teaspoons of High P Bat Guano, so it can start breaking down (it takes time). The day you flip the lights, start your bloom formula. If at any point, upon until serious flowering, you notice the lower leaves starting to fade to yellow - use the molasses mix to shore up your plants.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic....
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djmendoza21

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DJMendoza..... Ocean Forest is an excellent bagged soil. It will carry you until the sixth week. During the 3 to 6 week period, I'd water with a unsulphured molasses mix (one ounce to one gallon of unchlorinated water) to ensure Mary gets all the N she wants & a little extra K.
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Then on week six, top dress two teaspoons of High P Bat Guano, so it can start breaking down (it takes time). The day you flip the lights, start your bloom formula. If at any point, upon until serious flowering, you notice the lower leaves starting to fade to yellow - use the molasses mix to shore up your plants.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic....
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Bat gauno at the start of the week six?,, What type of guano?

Anything else you might suggest?

If i veg longer just use molasses?
 

growinman

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------FFOF is IMO the best of the best!! It's pricey too! I 've been using nothing but ffof for over 2 yrs...as well as all of ff's nutes and macro's. I 've followed there schedules and experimented around a bit. If your strictly staying organic stay away from tiger bloom and grow big and the macros.
I 've never needed to use the grow big in veg, probobly because if they were in 24/0 more than 3-4 weeks I had to transplant them anyway, which I always do a week or 2 before going to 12/12. I start in 16oz solo, to 1 gal, finish in 3gal.......
And enough cant be said about Big Bloom.....It is probobly one of the best all around organic nutes on the market, IMO, and a great stress reliever.
I 've used Big Bloom from about 3 weeks in veg all the way through to flush, every other watering for many cycles now with very noticable improvements----it's not a sole "bloomer" like their bloomers with inorganics are(TigerBloom, beastie, and ChaChing). Read up on what's in it!
I am not strictly 'organic' so I am sure ohsogreen knows what he's saying about adding for N(I usually end up dosing once or twice in 12/12 in the 2nd-3rd wk w/Grow Big--the only time I ever need it) @1/4 dose and the other inorganics must cover for the "high P bat guano" he says to use:bigjoint:......
I am about to do my 1st run of 100% organics using FFOF and a trio of great sounding nutes that I just recieved from Blue Mountain Organics for inexpensive(read about them here in the organics section https://www.rollitup.org/organics/87949-organic-plant-stimulant-bmo-super.html ). Infact, if I remember right, it's ohso's thread..........

Great Luck to you!!!
 

wizard1612

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your so lucky id say fox farm is the best soil and nutes money can buy unfortunalty im in the uk and canot get fox farm so im using canna but in the last few weeks ive seen it on ebay and will defo get it for my next grow happy days
 

Ohsogreen

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Bat gauno at the start of the week six?,, What type of guano?

Anything else you might suggest?

If i veg longer just use molasses?
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High Phosphorus Bat Guano is what I meant by High P. Look for some in the range of 0-4-0 to 0-7-0. Don't buy that stuff that has numbers like 1-12-1. I'll tell you why. Those numbers represent the P that is immediately available. All High P Bat Guanos will still have between double and triple the soluble number, in insoluble P. It would normally break down slowly over the course of a few months. But ! You have OF soil The myco fungi in the OF soil will help break it down a little faster - in the window of a month or maybe 5 weeks - so you must go easy on the guano - your soil is going to make sure Mary gets it all. So, 0-7-0 in your soil, really means 0-14-0 to 0-21-0 within 5 weeks. Resist the temptation to shovel it on, it's very powerful stuff.
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Mixing a myco fungi product with the molasses mix & bubbling it with a cheap aquarium air pump & stone - will bioconvert the molasses in to a very soluble nute for Mary. There are several good products out there like Plant Sucess, Myco Magic, Sub-culture and Super Plant Tonic. All will get the job done. If you do this, just give each plant one quart of this mix each, on your watering only week. Not on your fertilizing week (which should be every two weeks).
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real...Organic...
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djmendoza21

Well-Known Member
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High Phosphorus Bat Guano is what I meant by High P. Look for some in the range of 0-4-0 to 0-7-0. Don't buy that stuff that has numbers like 1-12-1. I'll tell you why. Those numbers represent the P that is immediately available. All High P Bat Guanos will still have between double and triple the soluble number, in insoluble P. It would normally break down slowly over the course of a few months. But ! You have OF soil The myco fungi in the OF soil will help break it down a little faster - in the window of a month or maybe 5 weeks - so you must go easy on the guano - your soil is going to make sure Mary gets it all. So, 0-7-0 in your soil, really means 0-14-0 to 0-21-0 within 5 weeks. Resist the temptation to shovel it on, it's very powerful stuff.
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Mixing a myco fungi product with the molasses mix & bubbling it with a cheap aquarium air pump & stone - will bioconvert the molasses in to a very soluble nute for Mary. There are several good products out there like Plant Sucess, Myco Magic, Sub-culture and Super Plant Tonic. All will get the job done. If you do this, just give each plant one quart of this mix each, on your watering only week. Not on your fertilizing week (which should be every two weeks).
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real...Organic...
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What myco fungi product would you reccomend?
 

raiderman

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haha,lol.FF is all i use . use ocean forest with one minor shot of grow big during veging, tiger bloom or big bloom {found the tiger bloom has that extr shot of phosph. wich promotes large buds} i use water from ouur local gal. fill up .35 cents a gal.ph is around a 6 , a little high in alkaline that plants thrive on,the most excel. sourse of water to go with Tiger Bloom. my plants leaves are always upward for happyness.
alwys get max. yield and very low mainta.to.i'm not changen shit.:weed:
 

raiderman

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yea there s a stor rite down the road from me they sell FF every thing all the soil s nutes every thing .Its called Little Red Riding Hood. and theres a killer head shop rit next door. sweet.
 

djmendoza21

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haha,lol.FF is all i use . use ocean forest with one minor shot of grow big during veging, tiger bloom or big bloom {found the tiger bloom has that extr shot of phosph. wich promotes large buds} i use water from ouur local gal. fill up .35 cents a gal.ph is around a 6 , a little high in alkaline that plants thrive on,the most excel. sourse of water to go with Tiger Bloom. my plants leaves are always upward for happyness.
alwys get max. yield and very low mainta.to.i'm not changen shit.:weed:
Ya man but im going 100% organic.
Grow big and Tiger bloom are not organic at all. :wall:
 

anhedonia

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yeah fox farm is great if you like smoking nasty fertilizer salts that stay with the plant even after you flush it. I'll smoke organic weed over chem grown foxfarm beasters any day.
 

djmendoza21

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yeah fox farm is great if you like smoking nasty fertilizer salts that stay with the plant even after you flush it. I'll smoke organic weed over chem grown foxfarm beasters any day.

IS that your opinion to Ocean Forest soil with molasse, bat gauno, and 100% organic big bloom as the only ferts also?
 

raiderman

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i never have never tasted nor seen no shit like that, are you sure you read the directions on amnt to use. minare always real sweet and earthy
super strong weed,and get at lleast 2dry ounces per plant, in 2 gal. perfect pots ,never had no shit like that, salty weed,lol. i grow organic to but i don't use maximum on nitro. just on phosph. for big bud growth.i just thought youwere asking opinions on this thread. and i was not refering to you a newbie anyone who smashes wat all the professional cash croppers go with . Ed Rosenthal praises these products. if its good enough for him its good enuf for me. i read three of his books befor i even planted a seed.:leaf:
 

djmendoza21

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i never have never tasted nor seen no shit like that, are you sure you read the directions on amnt to use. minare always real sweet and earthy
super strong weed,and get at lleast 2dry ounces per plant. never had no shit like that, salty weed,lol. :leaf:i grow organic to but i don't use maximum on nitro. just on phosph. for big bud growth.

Wow man?
you have me lost,,
If your using tiger bloom or grow big you are NOT growing 100% organic PERIOD.
 

raiderman

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There is other stuff in it so it will max out my grow, i need allthe hep i can get. if you want to dig up some soil in your yard and use it, thats your business;:?::?::?::?::?::?::?::?::?:
 

anhedonia

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I got the first and third cannabibles and jason king tells it like it is. Read Jason King andthen ell me you think chem gro weed is better. He scared me straight on that shit. Even though Im using fox farm on a grow now I have an organic perpetual harvest in the making and I'll never again use snake oils and high octane ferts to attain good results. That only comes with being a good gardener in my opinion and knowing the plants. Even in the cannabible3 theres a section of the book about "why most weed sucks." Very informative. After reading that book and looking at all of the different strains hes photographed and smoked all over the world, I believe his message was to change growers mind about ho they grow theyre weed and I felt compelled to start an organic grow. So I cracked a couple whiteberry seeds and am starting an organic SOG.
 
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