Sativied
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A cannabis plant that produces a 1000 quality seeds (after removing small, immature and ugly seeds) would otherwise produce a lot of bud that can be sold in one batch. At $1 a seed I'm better of selling sinsemilla...
They are usually only too expensive for what they are. Keep in mind seedbanks often take up to half. And the IRS takes a big chunk of the rest.... Add some packacking... time to package and distribute, grow space and gear. That $10 is not what the breeder gets in profit. After the loss of bud and everything else it's about the price some guys here claim it should cost...
And that is assuming pollen chucks or let's say lucky F1s. When spending 4-5 cycles on a new variety it costs thousands of dollars in lost sinsemilla. At $1 per seed, of something actually bred not chucked, I would need to sell about 10k seeds just to get even.
Ranging from less than 50 cent to a couple of bucks:
http://www.growshopmarkt.nl/categorie/wiet-zaden/
Has been going on for a while but no influence on market prices.
http://www.sanniesshop.com/regular-cannabis-seeds-en/
Starting at €2.25 per seed.
They are usually only too expensive for what they are. Keep in mind seedbanks often take up to half. And the IRS takes a big chunk of the rest.... Add some packacking... time to package and distribute, grow space and gear. That $10 is not what the breeder gets in profit. After the loss of bud and everything else it's about the price some guys here claim it should cost...
And that is assuming pollen chucks or let's say lucky F1s. When spending 4-5 cycles on a new variety it costs thousands of dollars in lost sinsemilla. At $1 per seed, of something actually bred not chucked, I would need to sell about 10k seeds just to get even.
Quality tomato seeds are amongst the most expensive, worth more than their weight in gold. Sold in much larger quantities so obviously cheaper per seed.
Ranging from less than 50 cent to a couple of bucks:
http://www.growshopmarkt.nl/categorie/wiet-zaden/
Has been going on for a while but no influence on market prices.
http://www.sanniesshop.com/regular-cannabis-seeds-en/
Starting at €2.25 per seed.
texasjack
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That's correct. But lets be honest, how many weed breeders actually do that. Your typical breeder of any other plant will do hundreds of crosses over many years. Weed breeders ain't doing that. Hence the reason they're selling F2s and such.
Uberknot
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That's difference between someone who is a true genetic breeder and someone who just grows a bunch of plants and finds the good ones and crosses them a few times.......There are breeders who have put in those years and hours to create specific strains just not that many so far. One thing could be the legal aspect that has stopped some of the people who would have already spent decades refining genes. We might see this more and more if the US starts to go legal. I know they are going to do "government studies" at some universities where they will actually conduct testing, but that's only a few places.
Given the freedom and time I fully expect to see some amazing genetics in the future.
Hell there already are some pretty unique strains out there.
I was heavily into breeding guppies for years and you can see what some of the best breeders have done. The same thing goes on there as well....people grab up the genetics/traits from the guys who put in decades of work and make their own so called "unique strain" in much faster time because most of the hard work was done by someone else.
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texasjack
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Yes and no. Once the money dries up, and it will when people get ahold of the seeds and start giving them away, the skilled breeders won't be incentivized to make new strains. Just like tomatoes. The only way to make money in that market is large scale commercial growers just like the corn industry. You don't see a lot of big business research ala Monsanto on cucumbers. Just corn and soy beans.
dandyrandy
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6 fems for $25 is good enough.
Uberknot
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Like I was saying about the guppies. They already sell mass produced guppies for $3 each or less, but the guys who have decades of work making the very best championship breeds can get $50-100 ( I've seen them for more ) for a trio of them.
Kind of like the cannabis cup winners you see...they have some clout esp if they win multiple times and years.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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how many people who smoke cigarettes have tobacco plants growing in the yards?
how many people who drink have a still out back?
most people feel they can't "do" things, they don't want to try, they're too busy, too intimidated, too stupid.
so, if and when pot becomes openly legal all across the country, there will still be an industry, there will still be breeders, there will still be dispensaries, there will still be regulations to deal with. tobacco and alcohol are legal, but they still have rules that come with them.
i had this dream that when it started to become legalized in parts of the country, the prices would drop down to something close to what they were when i was a kid, like 50 a big fat zip....you can see that dream never materialized. i'm not trying to be a dick and say your dream is bullshit, i'm just telling you to be prepared when it doesn't happen the way you think its going to
how many people who drink have a still out back?
most people feel they can't "do" things, they don't want to try, they're too busy, too intimidated, too stupid.
so, if and when pot becomes openly legal all across the country, there will still be an industry, there will still be breeders, there will still be dispensaries, there will still be regulations to deal with. tobacco and alcohol are legal, but they still have rules that come with them.
i had this dream that when it started to become legalized in parts of the country, the prices would drop down to something close to what they were when i was a kid, like 50 a big fat zip....you can see that dream never materialized. i'm not trying to be a dick and say your dream is bullshit, i'm just telling you to be prepared when it doesn't happen the way you think its going to
Uberknot
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It depends.....down in TN and KY you see a lot of Tobacco growing in regular farm plots. They made it so convenient many people just bought the packs which where less than a buck a pack a few decades back. And now there are more people growing there own, because the price is just too damn high.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i grew up in Tn stickin baccer, thats a farm full of it you got a pic of, most patchs around here are half that size in whatever bottom they can stick it in that gets any light.
the point remains, most people won't grow their own. they don't feel like they can. you can produce buckets of seeds and if 95% of the people smokin won't grow their own, those seeds are going to sit till they go bad.
the point remains, most people won't grow their own. they don't feel like they can. you can produce buckets of seeds and if 95% of the people smokin won't grow their own, those seeds are going to sit till they go bad.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i feel like i'm kicking puppies. i'm not sayin don't dream. i hope you're right and i'm wrong.
i hope before i drop dead, you can walk down the street and see patches in nearly every yard.
theres just this evil monkey in the back of my head laughing at both of us, though.
i hope before i drop dead, you can walk down the street and see patches in nearly every yard.
theres just this evil monkey in the back of my head laughing at both of us, though.
Uberknot
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Oh yeah there will always be the ones that will pay up the $10+ bucks a pack when it gets there....lol. I was down in Nashville area for 10 or so years definitely different thinkin goin on down there.
I like all the guns! 
In KY you can see real cannabis growing from the road in places....not just that hemp stuff.
HazednConfused
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Because you're buying designer bro! You can go with bag seed, which I have no problem with and have always used, or hit up the mad scientists at a seed farm and get some for sure killer genetics that you wont be wasting your time and money on if it comes out to be a male. The time put into developing the seeds is worth the extra money imo.
Uberknot
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The one thing I would say is research who is selling seeds and how long they have actually been creating their supposed strains. As always there are those who will try to cash in on anything when it's hot.
Remember pokemon cards? lmao!
I made a some nice coin on that one.
also did well on starwars figures...still have boxes left.
Remember pokemon cards? lmao!
I made a some nice coin on that one.
also did well on starwars figures...still have boxes left.
VTMi'kmaq
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Oh i just loved plucking suckahs off those bitches at 12,13,14,15,16,17 and being the only non puerto rican on the crew really enlightened me!
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm older than you i guess, weren't no puerto ricans around in my day, a few mexicans, but mostly poor whitetrash ( 
)...like me
)...like me
Uberknot
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Yeah we sure did.