Recovery after being stuck in the seedling stage

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Gunfer420

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  1. i have posted this in marijuana plant problems, but havent got many answers so considering it's an autoflower i hope ill have more luck here. :)
  2. So guys, I'm talking about a single plant, RQS easy bud autoflower, grown in a small DIY box 24''x14''x10'' with a current total of 50W of cfl's above her (plan to put in another 50 when she matures a little). The thing is, she was kinda neglected the first 3 weeks of her life, had a poor lightning and ventilation so she started growing tall and scrawny, but then I transplanted her (yea, despite the fact autoflowers do not prefer it much) and burried the stem a bit deeper and waited.... A few days later I noticed she started growing nicely and the 2nd set of leaves finally started showing and so did the 3rd, 4th and so on. All in all I saw a huge progress, now she looks like a normal let's say 12-15 day plant but I'm worried, since I know autoflowers have like an internal clock for flowering, what to expect from this little girl? Will it just start budding in a week or so and give me a gram maybe two, or did I somehow manage to reset her clock and put her back by 3 weeks? Btw, I need to mention that besides tall, scrawny look at the beggining she never showed any other deficiencies.
 

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Well actually it sprouted exactly a month ago but as I said, it was neglected for around 3 weeks. Anyway I was expecting a similar answer and honestly, for this little stressed put plant anything above 5 grams yield is a success. This is my 1st grow so Im not that disappointed but at least I learnt a lesson for next time. My final question is what to feed her and when? I heard that with good soil veg nutes arent necessary for an autoflower, but can anyone give a concrete, empirical answer?
 
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Gunfer420 said:
  1. i have posted this in marijuana plant problems, but havent got many answers so considering it's an autoflower i hope ill have more luck here. :)
  2. So guys, I'm talking about a single plant, RQS easy bud autoflower, grown in a small DIY box 24''x14''x10'' with a current total of 50W of cfl's above her (plan to put in another 50 when she matures a little). The thing is, she was kinda neglected the first 3 weeks of her life, had a poor lightning and ventilation so she started growing tall and scrawny, but then I transplanted her (yea, despite the fact autoflowers do not prefer it much) and burried the stem a bit deeper and waited.... A few days later I noticed she started growing nicely and the 2nd set of leaves finally started showing and so did the 3rd, 4th and so on. All in all I saw a huge progress, now she looks like a normal let's say 12-15 day plant but I'm worried, since I know autoflowers have like an internal clock for flowering, what to expect from this little girl? Will it just start budding in a week or so and give me a gram maybe two, or did I somehow manage to reset her clock and put her back by 3 weeks? Btw, I need to mention that besides tall, scrawny look at the beggining she never showed any other deficiencies.
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you might pull anywhere from 1-5 grams if you finish her out but the first few weeks are critical for autos and there already gone so, not much hope for her im afraid. :/ sorry
 
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Gunfer420

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bf80255 said:
you might pull anywhere from 1-5 grams if you finish her out but the first few weeks are critical for autos and there already gone so, not much hope for her im afraid. :/ sorry
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Yea, so i figured. Well at least ill get something which is okay for me considering its my 1st grow. This one was a guinea pig anyway :P
 
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Just keep lights on it 24 7 and make sure the temps are in check. It looks like a healthy young seedling. If you dont mind me asking. Where did you get your seeds?
 
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710revolution said:
Just keep lights on it 24 7 and make sure the temps are in check. It looks like a healthy young seedling. If you dont mind me asking. Where did you get your seeds?
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Well i started with 19/5 so i thought its best to stick by it...you think its wise to go 24/7 on her now?
As for temperatures, first they ranged from 20-32 degrees celsius (lights off/on) but then i installed proper fan and they stabilised.

Well i got them from a dude who has a website where u can choose a strain from a checked manufacturer and then he mailes them to you by recommendation (not sure if its the right term but in my country recommended letter is litteral translation and it refers to the letter you can only personally receive after providng a valid signature). I chose RQS cuz they are well known so i figured so must be their quality
 
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Gunfer420 said:
Well i started with 19/5 so i thought its best to stick by it...you think its wise to go 24/7 on her now?
As for temperatures, first they ranged from 20-32 degrees celsius (lights off/on) but then i installed proper fan and they stabilised.

Well i got them from a dude who has a website where u can choose a strain from a checked manufacturer and then he mailes them to you by recommendation (not sure if its the right term but in my country recommended letter is litteral translation and it refers to the letter you can only personally receive after providng a valid signature). I chose RQS cuz they are well known so i figured so must be their quality
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no its not wise its actually pretty dumb, dont waste 24/7 money on a plant that isnt going to yield much one way or the other just stick to what your doing. plus 24/7 would dry that little girl out quick and youd struggle to maintain its health having to keep it moist all the time.
 
Useless89

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I'll be honest I'm getting ready to begin my own grow, and really for about 300 bucks you can get everything you need to grow a decent harvest. And the best thing I can say is get online and just read and read and read, I spent quite a bit of time reading as much info as I could on growing and kind of nerded out on it. But I feel pretty confident in growing, drying and curing on the other hand kind of intimidates me though.
 
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Useless89 said:
I'll be honest I'm getting ready to begin my own grow, and really for about 300 bucks you can get everything you need to grow a decent harvest. And the best thing I can say is get online and just read and read and read, I spent quite a bit of time reading as much info as I could on growing and kind of nerded out on it. But I feel pretty confident in growing, drying and curing on the other hand kind of intimidates me though.
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Wow dude, i must say your name really describes you. You wrote much but nothing helpful really. Dont you think i would inform myself before going into such a thing as growing? Trust me i have read, read, and read some more before i started anything. I just asked here because this is my first grow and i know i failed at start but was still wondering if anything can be pulled out of it and your comment was not really helpful mate.
 
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bf80255 said:
no its not wise its actually pretty dumb, dont waste 24/7 money on a plant that isnt going to yield much one way or the other just stick to what your doing. plus 24/7 would dry that little girl out quick and youd struggle to maintain its health having to keep it moist all the time.
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I told him something out of my own experience. I'm going through a grow with a couple plants almost identical to whats happened with his. It's what's working for me in reality. So if you're going to passively talk shit and call me dumb, know who you're talking about. Otherwise you sit there and look like a prick that aint shit. At 19/5 light he will still have to keep up the moisture on such a small plant as he would on 24/0. It's not much of a difference at this point. For such a small auto, why the hell wouldn't you blast it with light? As long as his Temps are ok, get the most of it as possible. To each their own. OP, it was my two cents, I'm not the greatest grower, yet. Just letting you know what helped me in a similar situation.
 
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710revolution said:
I told him something out of my own experience. I'm going through a grow with a couple plants almost identical to whats happened with his. It's what's working for me in reality. So if you're going to passively talk shit and call me dumb, know who you're talking about. Otherwise you sit there and look like a prick that aint shit. At 19/5 light he will still have to keep up the moisture on such a small plant as he would on 24/0. It's not much of a difference at this point. For such a small auto, why the hell wouldn't you blast it with light? As long as his Temps are ok, get the most of it as possible. To each their own. OP, it was my two cents, I'm not the greatest grower, yet. Just letting you know what helped me in a similar situation.
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well, im willing to bet that you dont have very much experience on this subject and probably shouldnt be spreading around a bunch of misinformation and poor growing tips if im being 100% honest. I never talked shit because im not fucking 12 I said what you suggested was dumb, and it is...very dumb. I have been growing and breeding for years what have you done? I let my work speak for itself, no time for a pissing match with a internet gangstah.

because it wastes money and dries the plant out quicker like I said before, OP is a beginner so the easier the grow the better his experience will be, trust me I have grown and bred literally hundreds of autos I have a pretty good general idea of what im doing with them.
 
whitebb2727

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It looks fine. Not great but not bad by any means. I would just leave the 19/5. Also watch your watering habits. That will make it or break it.
 
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Gunfer420 said:
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Wow dude, i must say your name really describes you. You wrote much but nothing helpful really. Dont you think i would inform myself before going into such a thing as growing? Trust me i have read, read, and read some more before i started anything. I just asked here because this is my first grow and i know i failed at start but was still wondering if anything can be pulled out of it and your comment was not really helpful mate.
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Then I suppose continue transplanting autos and neglecting them to the point of harvesting a gram
 
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Useless89 said:
Then I suppose continue transplanting autos and neglecting them to the point of harvesting a gram
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I transplanted because it was too tall to just leave it like it was. The general idea was to rip the bottom of a cup when the plant is mature enough and put it in a bigger pot in order to get deeper root penetration, but since the seedling got tall and scrawny due to poor lightning i decided to transplant directly to bigger pot and bury the stem hoping that it'll start developing all over (which it did). Haven't you seen i wrote in my 1st post that i know it's bad to transplant, don't you think i wouldn't do it unless i absolutely had to?
 
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whitebb2727 said:
It looks fine. Not great but not bad by any means. I would just leave the 19/5. Also watch your watering habits. That will make it or break it.
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Yes, im aware of that. Although im struggling with myself not to water it too often, i noticed the top layer is dry every 2-3 days, so i water it every 4 days on average...do you think thats still too often?
 
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Gunfer420 said:
Yes, im aware of that. Although im struggling with myself not to water it too often, i noticed the top layer is dry every 2-3 days, so i water it every 4 days on average...do you think thats still too often?
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That is too much. It is quite common for a new grower to over water. Spread some soil out and let it dry fast and fill a pot of the same size as you are growing in. Pick it up and feel how light it is. Pick the one you are growing in and feel the difference.

From now on just pick the pot up and if it feels heavy don't water. You could get a cheap probe also.

https://www.amazon.com/FIXKIT-Moisture-Function-Gardener-Outdoors/dp/B01KZTDRV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476485767&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=soil+moisture+meter&psc=1
This one does moisture and ph.

Let the plant tell you if it needs water not the soil. I plant straight to 15 inch pots that hold about five gallons. It might take 3 weeks or so before they need water.

Letting the soil dry will encourage the roots to grow in search of water. I have had plants that the leaves lay down against the stalk, water them and stand back up in 30 minutes.

The lowest set of leaves will show signs first of needing water. The leaves and leaf stems will droop. (lay against the stalk and point towards the ground.)

Over water will cause drooping to. It looks different. The leaves droop by themselves. Yellowing will be present to.
 
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dargd1 said:
I like your Bonzi marijuana plant......It looks cool. midgets would probably think it was normal size who knows...lol
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If you mess up on an auto it stunts them and they don't recover.

I looked at your journal. Looks good. Skip using bags when sprouting seeds.
 
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