Hillary can't be trusted

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Fogdog

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Rizlared said:
I'm so cowardly eh

Look at you lot, rounding on someone for saying what you don't agree with.

Hurling insults, patting each other on the back for them

I am here, by myself, speaking about what I believe.

I will allow any objective types reading this to judge who the cowards are
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You are the one who can't even clarify a statement without dodging around the subject. Fearful coward. I have no idea what you believe. Because you don't say anything with conviction.

Tell me again how Trump and Clinton are the same. Explain how choosing either is foolish compared to the choice of sitting this one out.
 
Rizlared

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Big_Lou said:
Hmmmmm, a lady that has no doubt engaged in some (potentially) 'questionable' things throughout the course of forty years in public service, or a well-documented liar, cheat, swindler, racist, misogynist, oligarch, rapist, demented sociopath -- TOUGH choice, for sure!

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You think HC will stop bombing innocents? Balance your comments fairly please, people will die in the name of profit for certain under HC

Stop framing every opinion with bias
 
Rizlared

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Fogdog said:
You are the one who can't even clarify a statement without dodging around the subject. Fearful coward. I have no idea what you believe. Because you don't say anything with conviction.

Tell me again how Trump and Clinton are the same. Explain how choosing either is foolish compared to the choice of sitting this one out.
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Thank you, insults aside, you actually asked a valid question.

I knew one would come at some stage and I'm both surprised and impressed that it came from you.




You live under the illusion of democracy.

Your country is NOT democratic.

If no one voted for either candidate, what would be the outcome?

Now, obviously, that will never happen but it's a sliding scale. If people felt passionately enough to boycott the election...and more people didn't vote than did...what would be the outcome of that?

Conforming to the status quo is consent.

Voting for one because you despise the other makes you REALLY fucking easy to control
 
Rizlared

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How about adding to the ballot paper

'i have no faith in any of the above candidates'

I'd turn up and tick that box.
 
Fogdog

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Thank you, insults aside, you actually asked a valid question.

I knew one would come at some stage and I'm both surprised and impressed that it came from you.




You live under the illusion of democracy.

Your country is NOT democratic.

If no one voted for either candidate, what would be the outcome?

Now, obviously, that will never happen but it's a sliding scale. If people felt passionately enough to boycott the election...and more people didn't vote than did...what would be the outcome of that?

Conforming to the status quo is consent.

Voting for one because you despise the other makes you REALLY fucking easy to control
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And so, not voting, not participating, letting others make the choices, allowing others to choose for me is resistance to being controlled?
 
Big_Lou

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Surely you must know that NOT voting for Hil is a vote for DRUMPF, yush? Are you familiar with the concept of banding together with someone that you might not necessarily be in love with for the sake of defeating a far larger evil?

Or, would you say that you are more of a propaganda-fed sort, you know, like a 'beaver in a hole that stays in a dark tunnel and can't see shit'?
FFS.....


"What the fuckin difference does it make?!"

Derrrrrrrrrpppppppp-a-dee-DOOOOOOO!
 
Rizlared

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Big_Lou said:
Surely you must know that NOT voting for Hil is a vote for DRUMPF, yush? Are you familiar with the concept of banding together with someone that you might not necessarily be in love with for the sake of defeating a far larger evil?


Or, would you say that you are more of a propaganda-fed sort, you know, like a 'beaver in a hole that stays in a dark tunnel and can't see shit'?
FFS.....


"What the fuckin difference does it make?!"

Derrrrrrrrrpppppppp-a-dee-DOOOOOOO!
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Here's a concept for you, seeing as it seems you need to get together with others

Fucking spend the time you've spent trashing trump in a more positive manner.

Trash your electoral system that has left you with the two least popular options in history (according to the BBC, not my opinion)

It's obviously a flawed system, you bomb nations in the name of democracy, use that fucking democracy to change shit


Alternatively, just go onto forums and abuse people who don't think like you
 
Rizlared

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Fogdog said:
Then what is your premise?


How does letting others vote while sitting on the sidelines put you in control?
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Ok, got some work to do but I will return.

To answer this.....

If you are disenfranchised with your electoral system, get together with others who feel the same.

Get the message out there.

Get support.

There will be a critical mass of support that will invoke change.

Alternatively, do nothing.

One is empowering.

The choice is yours
 
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